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This is also something that infuriates me. It's nothing to do with Skype though, it's people. People are terrible.

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People do that with Whatsapp messages too. Send a sentence or two at a time.

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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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Oxford Mail:Oxford artist fined £1,300 for killing pigeon in neighbour's garden

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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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Oxford Mail:Oxford artist fined £1,300 for killing pigeon in neighbour's garden

The accompanying photo is brilliant.


that pose is copyrighted by Liam Gallagher surely?

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Really busy at work at the moment, so much so that they've agreed for me to work on a project at home in the evenings for overtime. Looks like this will be ongoing for some time.

In todays post came a letter for me to attend jury service at the end of November.

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If they're really struggling then you can defer it once if your work can provide a letter stating that.


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Yeah, we're aware of that, ta. Think they're just going to bite the bullet and let me go on the date mentioned.

There's a business case for us taking on a junior designer (something I bring up regularly when I'm due to go on holidays etc), hopefully this situation will add more weight.

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I'm glad of the overtime at the moment too.

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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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Oxford Mail:Oxford artist fined £1,300 for killing pigeon in neighbour's garden

The accompanying photo is brilliant.


Interesting how they just throw in the paedophilia at the end as an afterthought.

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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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Perhaps he's acting out all the Tom Lehrer songs. For reasons of Art.


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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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Erm, I really don’t understand the “controversy” of this “racist” Dove advert at all. It just reminds me of the end of Michael Jackson’s Black or White video.


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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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Kern wrote:
Oxford Mail:Oxford artist fined £1,300 for killing pigeon in neighbour's garden

The accompanying photo is brilliant.


So is the issue him killing the bird or killing the bird when it was in the garden next door?

EDIT: Think the issue was he was a twat with the Police so they prosecuted him under some little-used law ( at least for pigeons)

I looked this up you can kill a large array of wildlife in your garden using a "general license" you don't need to apply for this just follow the guidelines.

This is what you can dispatch ...


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General licences
You can use a general licence to kill or capture certain wild birds (including removing or destroying their eggs and nests) to:

prevent the spread of disease
stop serious damage to livestock, food, crops, growing timber, fisheries or inland water
preserve public health and safety
conserve other wild birds
A general licence is for killing or capturing these wild birds:

feral pigeon
crow
collared dove
lesser black-backed gull
jackdaw
jay
magpie
rook
woodpigeon
Canada goose
monk parakeet
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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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Erm, I really don’t understand the “controversy” of this “racist” Dove advert at all. It just reminds me of the end of Michael Jackson’s Black or White video.


I can see how it can be viewed as "use Dove and you too can become nice and clean like a white person". Whoever gave it the green light was an idiot.

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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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So is the issue him killing the bird or killing the bird when it was in the garden next door?

If the bird was not in his garden and he shot it with an air rifle, he's lucky he's not gone to prison for 5 years. Firing outside of his boundary, or within 15 metres of the centre of a public highway, would be treated as a firearms offence (even though it's an airgun) and is strict liability - no defense. Punishable by 5 years in prison (minimum).

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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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Cras wrote:
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Erm, I really don’t understand the “controversy” of this “racist” Dove advert at all. It just reminds me of the end of Michael Jackson’s Black or White video.


I can see how it can be viewed as "use Dove and you too can become nice and clean like a white person". Whoever gave it the green light was an idiot.


I could watch it a hundred times and still wouldn’t get that impression. Not least because the white person immediately turns into someone else.


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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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Satsuma wrote:
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Satsuma wrote:
Erm, I really don’t understand the “controversy” of this “racist” Dove advert at all. It just reminds me of the end of Michael Jackson’s Black or White video.


I can see how it can be viewed as "use Dove and you too can become nice and clean like a white person". Whoever gave it the green light was an idiot.


I could watch it a hundred times and still wouldn’t get that impression. Not least because the white person immediately turns into someone else.


Sure. But if 10 people do have that reaction then it's a shitty ad campaign.

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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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Cras wrote:
Satsuma wrote:
Cras wrote:
Satsuma wrote:
Erm, I really don’t understand the “controversy” of this “racist” Dove advert at all. It just reminds me of the end of Michael Jackson’s Black or White video.


I can see how it can be viewed as "use Dove and you too can become nice and clean like a white person". Whoever gave it the green light was an idiot.


I could watch it a hundred times and still wouldn’t get that impression. Not least because the white person immediately turns into someone else.


Sure. But if 10 people do have that reaction then it's a shitty ad campaign.

hundreds of people complained about that KFC ad where the call centre people spoke with their mouths full (for reasons ranging from it will encourage kids to speak with their mouth full to its insulting to call centre workers). Doesn't make the complainants any less stupid

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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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I can only find a photo, is there supposed to be a video?

I had a look on Google Videos and found myself on a channel of some twat who was filming himself in his living room.

He couldn't describe who Dove was or what they sold but got straight into the fact everything was racist.

I suspect that 16900 of the 17000 views he had were people like me searching for some info and context :)

I didn't think (what I saw) was offensive, not sure if there was more to follow that may have given more context?

Did read Dove had run a positive campaign for some 13 years called Real Beauty

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"Real Beauty" ads have long centred around rejecting standard, racially insular notions of beauty while vowing to feature "real women of different ages, sizes, ethnicities, hair color, type or style."


Sad thing is this will be a forgotten story by Wednesday as Trump will say something offensive or Boris maybe !


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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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This is it apparently. Rather than a TV commercial it’s just a Facebook ad by the looks of it.



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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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I can only find a photo, is there supposed to be a video?

I had a look on Google Videos and found myself on a channel of some twat who was filming himself in his living room.

He couldn't describe who Dove was or what they sold but got straight into the fact everything was racist.

I suspect that 16900 of the 17000 views he had were people like me searching for some info and context :)

I didn't think (what I saw) was offensive, not sure if there was more to follow that may have given more context?

Did read Dove had run a positive campaign for some 13 years called Real Beauty

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"Real Beauty" ads have long centred around rejecting standard, racially insular notions of beauty while vowing to feature "real women of different ages, sizes, ethnicities, hair color, type or style."


Sad thing is this will be a forgotten story by Wednesday as Trump will say something offensive or Boris maybe !

It was a short looped video. The white woman then pulls off her tshirt in the same manoeuvre to reveal a woman of colour.

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Ah, that’s the one. Yes, I think it as just FB (possibly IG as well).

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Really busy at work at the moment, so much so that they've agreed for me to work on a project at home in the evenings for overtime. Looks like this will be ongoing for some time.

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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 49
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I can only find a photo, is there supposed to be a video?

I had a look on Google Videos and found myself on a channel of some twat who was filming himself in his living room.

He couldn't describe who Dove was or what they sold but got straight into the fact everything was racist.

I suspect that 16900 of the 17000 views he had were people like me searching for some info and context :)

I didn't think (what I saw) was offensive, not sure if there was more to follow that may have given more context?

Did read Dove had run a positive campaign for some 13 years called Real Beauty

Quote:
"Real Beauty" ads have long centred around rejecting standard, racially insular notions of beauty while vowing to feature "real women of different ages, sizes, ethnicities, hair color, type or style."


Sad thing is this will be a forgotten story by Wednesday as Trump will say something offensive or Boris maybe !

It was a short looped video. The white woman then pulls off her tshirt in the same manoeuvre to reveal a woman of colour.

They do apparently have form...
https://twitter.com/keithboykin/status/ ... wsrc%5Etfw

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Mimi wrote:
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I can only find a photo, is there supposed to be a video?

I had a look on Google Videos and found myself on a channel of some twat who was filming himself in his living room.

He couldn't describe who Dove was or what they sold but got straight into the fact everything was racist.

I suspect that 16900 of the 17000 views he had were people like me searching for some info and context :)

I didn't think (what I saw) was offensive, not sure if there was more to follow that may have given more context?

Did read Dove had run a positive campaign for some 13 years called Real Beauty

Quote:
"Real Beauty" ads have long centred around rejecting standard, racially insular notions of beauty while vowing to feature "real women of different ages, sizes, ethnicities, hair color, type or style."


Sad thing is this will be a forgotten story by Wednesday as Trump will say something offensive or Boris maybe !

It was a short looped video. The white woman then pulls off her tshirt in the same manoeuvre to reveal a woman of colour.

They do apparently have form...
https://twitter.com/keithboykin/status/ ... wsrc%5Etfw

I thought I remembered a similarly stupid decision a while back but couldn’t remember what it was. Oddly, I don’t think I’d seen that second one. The thing is, the ad is wholesome in its intention. If they’d had the women standing in a different order, it would likely have been received well. They need to take an extra step in their thinking. I don’t think there is an ounce of maliciousness in it and I think it’s a shame they’ve missed the mark in such a stupid way if it means that it undoes the actual good body positive work they’ve worked on as a brand.

I don’t know. Maybe they did think it through and thought that the white woman in the tshirt ad changing to a darker skinned woman blanaced the earlier change from dark skin to light, all beautiful. It does, really, in its best meaning form, but it can’t in a world that’s so unbalanced and growing ever more concious of that fact.

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There was an advert that said something along the lines of "good for you, whether you're black, yellow, brown or normal". Not Dove though.

Edit: it was fake, amusingly http://www.snopes.com/photos/signs/equally.asp


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Mimi wrote:
Malc wrote:
Mimi wrote:
asfish wrote:
I can only find a photo, is there supposed to be a video?

I had a look on Google Videos and found myself on a channel of some twat who was filming himself in his living room.

He couldn't describe who Dove was or what they sold but got straight into the fact everything was racist.

I suspect that 16900 of the 17000 views he had were people like me searching for some info and context :)

I didn't think (what I saw) was offensive, not sure if there was more to follow that may have given more context?

Did read Dove had run a positive campaign for some 13 years called Real Beauty

Quote:
"Real Beauty" ads have long centred around rejecting standard, racially insular notions of beauty while vowing to feature "real women of different ages, sizes, ethnicities, hair color, type or style."


Sad thing is this will be a forgotten story by Wednesday as Trump will say something offensive or Boris maybe !

It was a short looped video. The white woman then pulls off her tshirt in the same manoeuvre to reveal a woman of colour.

They do apparently have form...
https://twitter.com/keithboykin/status/ ... wsrc%5Etfw

I thought I remembered a similarly stupid decision a while back but couldn’t remember what it was. Oddly, I don’t think I’d seen that second one. The thing is, the ad is wholesome in its intention. If they’d had the women standing in a different order, it would likely have been received well. They need to take an extra step in their thinking. I don’t think there is an ounce of maliciousness in it and I think it’s a shame they’ve missed the mark in such a stupid way if it means that it undoes the actual good body positive work they’ve worked on as a brand.

I don’t know. Maybe they did think it through and thought that the white woman in the tshirt ad changing to a darker skinned woman blanaced the earlier change from dark skin to light, all beautiful. It does, really, in its best meaning form, but it can’t in a world that’s so unbalanced and growing ever more concious of that fact.
I dunno, I think it obviously wasn't the point of the advert. But typical twitter-mob bellends, hungry for outrage with all the critical faculties of the average Daily Mail reader.


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As a member of a minority, it's good that the majority can discuss this. Thank you.

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Really busy at work at the moment, so much so that they've agreed for me to work on a project at home in the evenings for overtime. Looks like this will be ongoing for some time.

Are you still at the same place I used to visit?

Yes. Same place but now owned by dnata who are 100%* better to work for. Also, now we've restructured theres a high chance I'll be visiting That London fairly regularly so we'll have to sort something out if I'm down that way.

*more than that really, since the takeover I've had a nice pay rise, bumped up to Senior Designer and now on the rota to go on Fam trips (being taken out by tourist boards to see attractions and hotels round the world :metul: )

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Were in our own studio here now too.

With a freakin' radio!

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