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Author:  Grim... [ Thu Aug 31, 2017 14:47 ]
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Bojack is really good, but his swimming pool is wrong.
Author:  Satsuma [ Thu Aug 31, 2017 14:48 ]
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Series 3?
Author:  Grim... [ Thu Aug 31, 2017 14:50 ]
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Ahem.
Author:  Hearthly [ Thu Aug 31, 2017 14:52 ]
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Netflix emailed me about it, I am excited.

I just really, really hope they've kept the quality up.
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Aug 31, 2017 14:56 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Bojack is really good, but his swimming pool is wrong.

I thought it was just me that had noticed this.
Author:  Grim... [ Thu Aug 31, 2017 14:57 ]
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viewtopic.php?p=917750#p917750
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Aug 31, 2017 14:59 ]
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Grim... wrote:
http://www.beexcellenttoeachother.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=917750#p917750

Ah, I am glad I shared this pain. Cannot unsee.
Author:  Satsuma [ Wed Sep 06, 2017 0:03 ]
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God I love this bombshell from Mr Peanutbutter of all people "The universe is a cruel uncaring void. The key to being happy isn't to search for meaning, it's to just keep yourself busy with unimportant nonsense and eventually you'll be dead."
Author:  LewieP [ Wed Sep 06, 2017 5:10 ]
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https://twitter.com/bojackhorseman/stat ... 8530951168
Author:  LewieP [ Fri Sep 08, 2017 13:43 ]
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It's out.
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Sat Sep 09, 2017 23:37 ]
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Dear God, this is pretty dark.
Author:  Grim... [ Sun Sep 10, 2017 1:05 ]
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I've watched the first seven. It gets darker, but they've used a pretty lazy hook for the season arc.

Spoiler for the Todd episode:
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Long lost daughter?
Really?
Author:  Hearthly [ Mon Sep 11, 2017 14:16 ]
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Only three episodes into the new season so far but I'd be lying if I said it was setting my world on fire.

I don't mind the darker shades but they seem to have forgotten to put sufficient laughs in, and I'm finding myself not overly invested in the characters either, which hasn't happened before.

Hopefully it'll get better now that:

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They're all back in Hollywoo.
Author:  Satsuma [ Mon Sep 11, 2017 14:37 ]
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There's some episodes that I really enjoyed because it made me desperately sad:-

No deets spoilers but kinda spoilers because I mention what's in an episode.

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The one which starts with Princess Caroline's child from the future narrating her day. The last line of the episode got me right in the feels. Episode 9 I think.

The flashback episode for Bo Jays mom - episode 11. Also the feels.

Oh and the words he says to his mother at the end of (must have been episode 10) when they're in the car and when he puts her in a new home. Goddamn nasty shit that was.

The last episode was a bit gash, mind.

Oh and the one where you hear Bo J talking to himself. That was a good episode.
Author:  Hearthly [ Mon Sep 11, 2017 20:49 ]
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Episodes 4 and 5, much better, why did they start off with the strange episodes 1-3? (3 was good (not great) but 1 and 2 just felt 'off' somehow, still OK, but this is me coming into Season 4 with the opinion that Bojack Horseman is one of the best things ever so I was surprised it wasn't amazing.)

Or maybe I was in the wrong mood, sometimes I get in weird moods and don't enjoy things I would normally enjoy.

Anyway, 4 and 5 were great, right on target. I will watch Episode 6 now. BINGE TIME.
Author:  Hearthly [ Mon Sep 11, 2017 21:33 ]
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Episode 6 was fantastic.

Were 4-5-6 that much better than 1-2-3, not sure, maybe I need to go back and watch them again.

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But 1 and 2 were basically quite disjointed weren't they? Like all the characters were in the wrong places and weren't interacting with each other and stuff, and I see what they were trying to do (sort of) but I don't think it worked that well.


Loved 6 though:

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The inner monologue theme and animation style were superb, and reminded me somewhat of the Fish Out Of Water episode from Season 3, which remains one of the best episodes of anything ever.
Author:  Hearthly [ Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:23 ]
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Finished the season last night and TBH felt it went off the boil a bit towards the end. For the first time whilst watching it I started to feel overtly emotionally manipulated, aspects of it seemed forced, and that constant alliteration thing they've put into it for no apparent reason was really starting to get on my tits. (Has it always been there? And so much of it? Yes I get that it's clever wordplay but it grated.)

755/100 for Season 4.

Seasons 1/2/3 get 925/1000.
Author:  myp [ Sun Sep 17, 2017 9:50 ]
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The Princess Carolyn episode made me do a sad.
Author:  Hearthly [ Sun Sep 17, 2017 18:59 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
The Princess Carolyn episode made me do a sad.


That was Episode 4 wasn't it? 4/5/6 were great after 1/2/3 not being great. Somewhere between 7 and 12 I started to feel it was just chucking sad/shocking/obvious pathos/lazy devices/etc into the mix without giving them any particular overall meaning or context. (Plus the fundamental 'hook' for the season was a bit soap opera-esque as well.)

It was still very much above average and a solidly entertaining watch, but the season just didn't soar like 1/2/3 did IMO.
Author:  Grim... [ Sun Sep 02, 2018 13:46 ]
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MOAR BOJACK IN UNDER TWO WEEKS
Author:  Hearthly [ Sun Sep 02, 2018 17:15 ]
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Needs to be better than Season 4.
Author:  Satsuma [ Mon Sep 03, 2018 17:35 ]
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Good news but couldn’t they release it weekly. I know I’ll end up smashing through it in days and not appreciating it appropriately.
Author:  Satsuma [ Sun Oct 07, 2018 22:38 ]
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Did this happen?
Author:  myp [ Sun Oct 07, 2018 22:51 ]
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Satsuma wrote:
Did this happen?

Yes, I really enjoyed it.
Author:  Grim... [ Sun Oct 07, 2018 23:03 ]
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Didn't I write about it?

Huh.

It was very good. The "Free Churros" episode is the 16th highest rated episode of all TV shows on IMDB right now.
Author:  Cras [ Sun Oct 07, 2018 23:51 ]
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Gosh. Being better than all but the top 14 West Wing episodes and Shindig is very impressive.
Author:  Satsuma [ Mon Oct 08, 2018 22:48 ]
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Episode 1: meh
Episode 2: very good
Episode 3: also very good
Episode 4: woke

This and more thrilling insights when I proclaim that I like an episode.
Author:  Satsuma [ Wed Oct 10, 2018 20:11 ]
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Season 5 was great: best since season 2.

Although does else think that Bojack is now the least interesting character and has already been comprehensively explored in 4 seasons. I’d like to see Bojack killed off and let the other cast come forward.
Author:  Hearthly [ Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:38 ]
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I'm seven episodes into Season 5 and it's not setting my world on fire. It could just be I'm a bit tired of it now and in reality the quality is still there, but it's more of another Season 4 in my books and not as good as Seasons 1-3.

You also have to wonder how far they can really explore the Bojack character, which is what Satsuma is getting at in his post there, but I'm not sure I'd particularly be interested to see any of the other characters take over as the focus.

I'll stick it out.
Author:  Satsuma [ Tue Nov 19, 2019 23:04 ]
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They done fucked up the intro for no reason. Idiots.
Author:  Satsuma [ Wed Nov 20, 2019 16:57 ]
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Ok, that was a very good 1/2 season.

I really liked the last episode and where they’re going with this story all of a sudden. Yeah, I cannot wait for the last half of the season.

This is the final season isn’t it? I think I heard that somewhere. Damn, all these series’ are ending and Game of Thrones turned out to be the one sodding programme that couldn’t stick the landing.
Author:  myp [ Wed Nov 20, 2019 17:05 ]
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Yep. Said at the end of the last episode of this run that the “final episodes” are coming in Jan.
Author:  Satsuma [ Fri Jan 31, 2020 10:25 ]
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This is it people: The final 6!
Author:  Satsuma [ Sat Feb 08, 2020 9:53 ]
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So I finished the second half of Bojack and thought it was pretty great and pulled all the right strings. Unfortunately I don’t think the finale smashed home its themes like I thought a Bojack season might. I would have been immensely satisfied had the season finished with the penultimate episode but the final episode just seemed ‘rushed’ for want of a better word. Most things were wrapped up but it felt like the finale could have been two episodes and have a more ponderous pace.

Just my own thoughts on what I’d have liked with the finale:

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It wasn’t difficult to envisage a world where Bojack, once again, return to his previous ways at some point in the future. I felt that he needed to be shown bankrupt with his ties irrevocably cut to his friends, and having to move on from his past glories with, say, his body too damaged to be able to participate in the drugs and alcohol. It just felt to me like this character was so broken and had ruined so many lives that the end result should have been death or perpetual loneliness.


But I guess the moral was that life’s not always like that and lives don’t always have a bow tied around them except in fiction.

And then I watched Barrymore: Body in the Pool and, holy shit, it’s Bojack and Sarah Lynn. Honestly scary with the similarities in the story. Gave me goosebumps. If I’d have watched that and thought that Barrymore deserved redemption I’d have felt nauseous, so why should I feel differently about a fictional Horse. Weird night of TV that was.
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