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 Post subject: Re: Life in the UK Test
PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 12:43 
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Cavey wrote:
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But to be serious, do people actually think 'Britishness' is defined by leering tabloid gutter press headlines, football and fucking Wetherspoons? We're better than that.

Some people like football and Wetherspoons. It doesn't make them bad people.
I'm struggling a bit more with newspapers, but I'm sure there are some good reasons for reading them.

Who said it made them bad people?

Russ, Curio, you. That's kind of the impression that's given out when you add words like "leering gutter" and "fucking" to a list of things some people enjoy.


I said fuck The Sun and football hooligans. I stand by this and will die on this hill.


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Dare we not scoff at the notion that 'Britishness' is better than tabloids, football or chavvy pubs? Bollocks to that, sorry. If this makes me a snob, so be it.

Curio isn't being a snob. The Sun is just awful for lots of reasons - not because poor people read it. Same with football. Football is good and the majority of fans are fine - hooligans are not because violence


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 Post subject: Re: Life in the UK Test
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I'm very much in two minds about our local 'spoons. Cheap beer, HUGE range and cheap ( but pretty ordinary food ). However, they do seem to be constantly, chronically understaffed, which is partly why they can be so cheap, I guess.


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 Post subject: Re: Life in the UK Test
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Cavey wrote:
chavvy pubs

It would appear you can't help yourself.

The rest of you know exactly what you were saying, but if you want to backpedal and pretend it was something else, so be it.

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 Post subject: Re: Life in the UK Test
PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 12:48 
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The band called Beatles was popular and some alteration to social laws occured during which period?
* 1980s
* 1960s
* 1970s
* 1950s


That's an appallingly written question.


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 Post subject: Re: Life in the UK Test
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I'm very much in two minds about our local 'spoons. Cheap beer, HUGE range and cheap ( but pretty ordinary food ). However, they do seem to be constantly, chronically understaffed, which is partly why they can be so cheap, I guess.

And the lamb burgers got smaller.

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 Post subject: Re: Life in the UK Test
PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 12:49 
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The UK has its fair share of faults and wrongs (eg the legacy of slavery and colonialism; still large divisions between rich and poor; pacers), but we've got a lot going for us. I witnessed an excellent example of British values and what we have got right in this country when I was in Brighton on Saturday. In no other country would you see a couple of drag queens laughing and joking with a pair of armed policemen.


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 Post subject: Re: Life in the UK Test
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Squirt wrote:
I'm very much in two minds about our local 'spoons. Cheap beer, HUGE range and cheap ( but pretty ordinary food ). However, they do seem to be constantly, chronically understaffed, which is partly why they can be so cheap, I guess.


Wetherspoons breakfasts are one of the best hangover cures yet devised.


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 Post subject: Re: Life in the UK Test
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Grim... wrote:
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chavvy pubs

It would appear you can't help yourself.

The rest of you know exactly what you were saying, but if you want to backpedal and pretend it was something else, so be it.


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A Polish friend is currently going through the citizenship process. I've promised her that when it's finished and she takes the oath, I'll give her a copy of that day's 'Sun', a cheap football shirt, and a St George's Flag, then take her to the dodgy fake-Wetherspoons on New Road.


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That is about as far from British values as I can imagine.

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These are things which seem specifically Englishly jingoistic.


No backpedalling here.

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 Post subject: Re: Life in the UK Test
PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 12:53 
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Perhaps this lack of pride is part of our problem as a nation; I don't see the French, Italians or Germans having such a downer about themselves.
That's the one after queueing.


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In 'The Mikado', one of the entries on the little list is:

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The idiot who praises
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Every century but this,
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 Post subject: Re: Life in the UK Test
PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 13:00 
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Grim... wrote:
Cavey wrote:
chavvy pubs

It would appear you can't help yourself.

The rest of you know exactly what you were saying, but if you want to backpedal and pretend it was something else, so be it.


Who's pulled your chain?
I'm not back pedalling in the least. To be completely clear: I personally cannot stand the tabloid press, your average football supporting mob and/or Wetherspoons pubs in specific regard to what someone may consider 'Britishness'. You disagree and/or think I'm being a snob and/or think I should feel bad about this? Could not give a damn, sorry. That's my opinion and I'm entitled to it.

That clear enough for you? Good-o.

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 Post subject: Re: Life in the UK Test
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Perhaps this lack of pride is part of our problem as a nation; I don't see the French, Italians or Germans having such a downer about themselves.
That's the one after queueing.


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 Post subject: Re: Life in the UK Test
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There's also not actually anything wrong with being a snob, per se. Some things are just objectively rubbish and not to be encouraged.

Like football.

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 Post subject: Re: Life in the UK Test
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There's also not actually anything wrong with being a snob, per se. Some things are just objectively rubbish and not to be encouraged.

Like football.


:this: Could not agree more, mate, it's one of the key drivers to make us better and to strive for better, as individuals and as a collective.

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 Post subject: Re: Life in the UK Test
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I honestly couldn't give a fuck about "British values". If we're having to screen people coming into the country then if we could just check that they aren't a selfish fucking prick who has no regard for others then that would do for me.


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 Post subject: Re: Life in the UK Test
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 Post subject: Re: Life in the UK Test
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Cavey wrote:
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There's also not actually anything wrong with being a snob, per se. Some things are just objectively rubbish and not to be encouraged.

Like football.


:this: Could not agree more, mate, it's one of the key drivers to make us better and to strive for better, as individuals and as a collective.

Sometimes perhaps but mostly it's completely arbitrary and just leads people to place value on things that are actually every bit as shit and pathetic as the things they're being snobbish about.


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 Post subject: Re: Life in the UK Test
PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 13:24 
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There's also not actually anything wrong with being a snob, per se. Some things are just objectively rubbish and not to be encouraged.

Like football.


:this: Could not agree more, mate, it's one of the key drivers to make us better and to strive for better, as individuals and as a collective.

Sometimes perhaps but mostly it's completely arbitrary and just leads people to place value on things that are actually every bit as shit and pathetic as the things they're being snobbish about.

But that's something I'm very happy to be snobby about as well. Snobbery snobbery if you will.

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 Post subject: Re: Life in the UK Test
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The band called Beatles was popular and some alteration to social laws occured during which period?
* 1980s
* 1960s
* 1970s
* 1950s


That's an appallingly written question.


They're just taking the piss with this one:


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 Post subject: Re: Life in the UK Test
PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 13:27 
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Just to make it clear, I am totally a snob, but also love Wetherspoons and football.

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 Post subject: Re: Life in the UK Test
PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 13:29 
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MrChris wrote:
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There's also not actually anything wrong with being a snob, per se. Some things are just objectively rubbish and not to be encouraged.

Like football.


:this: Could not agree more, mate, it's one of the key drivers to make us better and to strive for better, as individuals and as a collective.

Sometimes perhaps but mostly it's completely arbitrary and just leads people to place value on things that are actually every bit as shit and pathetic as the things they're being snobbish about.

But that's something I'm very happy to be snobby about as well. Snobbery snobbery if you will.


Indeed; it's called 'discernment' whereby simplistic, tiresome, black-and white, tar-everyone-with-the-same-brush grievance bullshit need not apply. Hence, I believe, your use of the specific term "some things" which appears to have been missed. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Life in the UK Test
PostPosted: Tue Aug 08, 2017 13:31 
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Just to make it clear, I am totally a snob, but also love Wetherspoons and football.


How very dare you have your own mind you backpedaling snob, Curio. You just can't help yourself can you? :D

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 Post subject: Re: Life in the UK Test
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Curiosity wrote:
I am totally a snob.


I'm not a snob. I like Wetherspoons too. Ah, if you can walk with kings but not lose the common touch. Sometimes I even listen to Classic FM.


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 Post subject: Re: Life in the UK Test
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It annoys me when people think i am a snob because I have never told anyone I think Curio's beneath me.

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 Post subject: Re: Life in the UK Test
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Cavey wrote:
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markg wrote:
Cavey wrote:
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There's also not actually anything wrong with being a snob, per se. Some things are just objectively rubbish and not to be encouraged.

Like football.


:this: Could not agree more, mate, it's one of the key drivers to make us better and to strive for better, as individuals and as a collective.

Sometimes perhaps but mostly it's completely arbitrary and just leads people to place value on things that are actually every bit as shit and pathetic as the things they're being snobbish about.

But that's something I'm very happy to be snobby about as well. Snobbery snobbery if you will.


Indeed; it's called 'discernment' whereby simplistic, tiresome, black-and white, tar-everyone-with-the-same-brush grievance bullshit need not apply. Hence, I believe, your use of the specific term "some things" which appears to have been missed. :)

No, discernment is just taking the time to appraise things until you find what you prefer just for your own satisfaction. Snobbery is when you judge other people. I tend to find people who are snobbish about things actually know relatively little about them, their opinions tend to be parroted rather than gleaned from experience and spouted mostly due to their own insecurities. People who are real experts tend to be enthusiastic about their passions and seek to help and inform rather than chastise others.

Don't get me wrong, everyone does it here and there but I just can't agree that, broadly speaking, it's a positive thing.


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markg wrote:
Cavey wrote:
MrChris wrote:
markg wrote:
Cavey wrote:
MrChris wrote:
There's also not actually anything wrong with being a snob, per se. Some things are just objectively rubbish and not to be encouraged.

Like football.


:this: Could not agree more, mate, it's one of the key drivers to make us better and to strive for better, as individuals and as a collective.

Sometimes perhaps but mostly it's completely arbitrary and just leads people to place value on things that are actually every bit as shit and pathetic as the things they're being snobbish about.

But that's something I'm very happy to be snobby about as well. Snobbery snobbery if you will.


Indeed; it's called 'discernment' whereby simplistic, tiresome, black-and white, tar-everyone-with-the-same-brush grievance bullshit need not apply. Hence, I believe, your use of the specific term "some things" which appears to have been missed. :)

No, discernment is just taking the time to appraise things until you find what you prefer just for your own satisfaction. Snobbery is when you judge other people. I tend to find people who are snobbish about things actually know relatively little about them, their opinions tend to be parroted rather than gleaned from experience and spouted mostly due to their own insecurities. People who are real experts tend to be enthusiastic about their passions and seek to help and inform rather than chastise others.

Don't get me wrong, everyone does it here and there but I just can't agree that, broadly speaking, it's a positive thing.


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the Dutch do think everything about our own country is crap which is nonsense


Hey, you invaded us that time.


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