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PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:12 
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1. Chris Evans £2.2m - £2.25m

2. Gary Lineker £1.75m - £1.8m

3. Graham Norton £850,0000 - £899,999

4. Jeremy Vine £700,000 - £749,999

5. John Humphrys £600,000 - £649,999

6. Huw Edwards £550,000 - £599,999

7. Steve Wright £500,000 - £549,999

= 8. Claudia Winkleman £450,000 - £499,999

= 8. Matt Baker £450,000 - £499,999

= 9. Nicky Campbell £400,000 - £449,999

= 9. Andrew Marr £400,000 - £449,999

= 9. Stephen Nolan £400,000 - £449,999

= 9. Alan Shearer £400,000 - £449,999

=9. Alex Jones £400,000 - £449,000

10. Fiona Bruce £350,000 - £399,999


There we are (Not sure if can normalise data for air time)

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 Post subject: Re: BBC Pay
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 Post subject: Re: BBC Pay
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So... Could we get rid of Chris Evans and get five and a half more Fiona Bruces?


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 Post subject: Re: BBC Pay
PostPosted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:30 
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Piers Morgan reported Fiona Bruce as being the top paid woman...
https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/ ... ve-updates

Poor Alex.

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 Post subject: Re: BBC Pay
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So... Could we get rid of Chris Evans and get five and a half more Fiona Bruces?


No it's nurses, all the salaries seem to be getting broken down into how many nurses we could get for that money.

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 Post subject: Re: BBC Pay
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They say that Graham Norton is earning closer to 2.5 million, a lot of it comes via a production company so its not counted in the BBC report.

Would also guess that Chris Evans is the same.


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That is an appalling waste of money. Literally anyone could do what Alex Jones does. At least people vaguely car to hear an ex footballer's opinion on football.

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 Post subject: Re: BBC Pay
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Huw Edwards? He's not even one of the main news presenters any more. Guess he does other stuff as well?


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 Post subject: Re: BBC Pay
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Huw Edwards? He's not even one of the main news presenters any more. Guess he does other stuff as well?


Doesn't he want to take on the big state events job (even though that would be in violation of the Dimbleby Act)?

As for the others, I reckon the commercial companies would probably offer them more. But I'm not too fussed by this - a world class broadcaster probably does need to pay to get and keep this talent.


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 Post subject: Re: BBC Pay
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And for a program that earns the BBC millions in revenue paying the star between 200 - 250k is a bargain :

http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2017/07/pe ... ealed.html


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 Post subject: Re: BBC Pay
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The worst thing is you know this will be on the front pages of tomorrow's Daily Mail etc - "waste of taxpayer's money, Chris Evans, blah blah blah..."

I can't say I'm all that bothered, to be honest. We could all scan that list and say he's worth it, or she's not and so on.

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To be fair, spending any money on Chris Evans is a colosal waste of money.


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 Post subject: Re: BBC Pay
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To be fair, spending any money on Chris Evans is a colosal waste of money.


And from another point of view, I like Chris Evans. So there we are! Agree to disagree and all that.


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 Post subject: Re: BBC Pay
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I don't like the bloke myself but he gets 9m listeners a week so clearly some people do.

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That is an appalling waste of money. Literally anyone could do what Alex Jones does. At least people vaguely car to hear an ex footballer's opinion on football.

I'd much rather watch Alex Jones on TV than you, man.

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Piers Morgan reported Fiona Bruce as being the top paid woman...
https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/ ... ve-updates

Poor Alex.

And Claudia's fuming.


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 Post subject: Re: BBC Pay
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Piers is a c*nt, and should not be allowed airtime...

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Piers is a c*nt, and should not be allowed airtime...


I'm pretty sure this is something that we can all agree on.


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 Post subject: Re: BBC Pay
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And how do these figures stack up against commercial companies? I wonder how much Clarkson et al get paid by Amazon, for example…

You need to pay good money to keep good talent. I'm happy my licence fee is spent in this manner, otherwise it's a race to the bottom and all the good talent leaves. Just feels like petty envy to me.

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 Post subject: Re: BBC Pay
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I'm just waiting for the Daily Mail to run a story about Nurses pay mixed up with Charlie from Casualty earning 400K a year :)


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 Post subject: Re: BBC Pay
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I think for the audiences that they entertain, the large majority of those salaries seem to be in an entirely justifiable range, with the possible exception of the couple right at the top.

There's a few positions in the list relative to each other that seem a little odd, but then you could say the same about most work places.

Nothing I could get particularly bothered about.


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 Post subject: Re: BBC Pay
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Eddie Mair was very good on PM.

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Oh yeah, the gender pay gap is wrong though. Clare Balding should not be earning one-tenth of what Gary Lineker earns.

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 Post subject: Re: BBC Pay
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Oh yeah, the gender pay gap is wrong though. Clare Balding should not be earning one-tenth of what Gary Lineker earns.


Yeah, I'm not overly concerned with the amounts, but the pay gap. Would recommend listening to today's PM.

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 Post subject: Re: BBC Pay
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Oh yeah, the gender pay gap is wrong though. Clare Balding should not be earning one-tenth of what Gary Lineker earns.


Yeah, I'm not overly concerned with the amounts, but the pay gap. Would recommend listening to today's PM.

I wonder about that comparison though and other factors. For example Clare balding is freelance for defined events as she also does a lot of channel four work. Lineker and Norton are on BBC only contracts I think, and the week in week or nature of MOTD is restrictive anyway. Also Evans will pick up both his radio and Tv work.

For the one show presenters also isn't a true position as Matt baker sells countryfile calendars every Sunday too.

I've no doubt a pay gap remains but I'm fairly sure that the extreme position of what appears to be tenfold difference isn't wholly representative.


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Lonewolves wrote:
Clare Balding should not be earning one-tenth of what Gary Lineker earns.
I'm not sure if I agree or disagree - on the one hand I dislike her intensely so think she's paid too much, but on the other I don't think whatever lineker does justifies his money either.

Nothing to do with gender though.


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 Post subject: Re: BBC Pay
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Lineker does BT Sport, as does Balding. It's daft to look at this money as if they're all doing a 35-hour week at a desk though.

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Lineker does BT Sport, as does Balding. It's daft to look at this money as if they're all doing a 35-hour week at a desk though.

Does he? If so disregard my exclusive comment.


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 Post subject: Re: BBC Pay
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Lineker does BT Sport, as does Balding. It's daft to look at this money as if they're all doing a 35-hour week at a desk though.

Jesus, I'm paying for them (doing things I don't watch) twice?

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I, quite frankly, don't give a shit about how much BBC employees are paid. If anything, it all seems a bit low


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It's just another stick for its commercial rivals to thrash the BBC with. I still think the Beeb is one of the best things about this country, and something we should be proud of.


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 Post subject: Re: BBC Pay
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Presumably Evans' pay includes his stint on Top Gear.

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It's just another stick for its commercial rivals to thrash the BBC with. I still think the Beeb is one of the best things about this country, and something we should be proud of.


:this:

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It's just another stick for its commercial rivals to thrash the BBC with. I still think the Beeb is one of the best things about this country, and something we should be proud of.


Not sure where the push for this came from? Also read that a lot of people the BBC pay are not included on the list as they are paid through production company's. David Dimbleby, David Attenborough and Mary Berry are not on any list. So its not really a complete picture.

Yes there are some gender gaps on pay, but no data to see how the BBC stack up against commercial channels.


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 Post subject: Re: BBC Pay
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Is it me, or are the female presenters on BBC Breakfast a lot more dolled up since the pay revelations? They all suddenly seem to have on extra-nice dresses and to have spent several hours in hair and makeup every morning since....


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It's you. You're a lot more dolled up since the pay revelations.

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I'm fully prepared to accept that it's just me imagining things in my pre-morning-caffeine brain.

The idea of me dolled up, though... I mean, my appearance scares small children as it is.


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