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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:37 
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Could you BE anymore insulting?


At least he didn't call you malicool.

That Myp is the most Malicool person on the forum is something of a given now.


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:43 
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Looks like the DUP are playing hardball a bit, as the Queen's Speach has been delayed...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40243782

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:51 
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Mr Dave wrote:
devilman wrote:
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Could you BE anymore insulting?


At least he didn't call you malicool.

That Myp is the most Malicool person on the forum is something of a given now.


I don't think you are in the position to make that call, Mr Dave.

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 13:03 
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MaliA wrote:
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Could you BE anymore insulting?


At least he didn't call you malicool.

That Myp is the most Malicool person on the forum is something of a given now.


I don't think you are in the position to make that call, Mr Dave.

He's more Malicool than anyone I know here. It's possible, I suppose, that someone I've never met - John Coffey, Hearthly etc etc are more Malicool than he is, I will concede.


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 13:24 
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I quite fancy the Dennis Skinner gig to be fair. :D

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 13:24 
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Looks like the DUP are playing hardball a bit, as the Queen's Speach has been delayed...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40243782


I got the impression from 'Private Eye' that Brenda wasn't too keen on having her summer programme interrupted by a new Parliament in the first place. She won't be happy about this.


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 15:56 
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I quite fancy the Dennis Skinner gig to be fair. :D


It'll stretch credibility, what with you playing an older guy trying to talk his sense into a room full of braying hotheads who think the time for his ideas has passed, but i think you can do it.

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 15:59 
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:DD

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 17:52 
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Watching House of Cards Season 5 was a lot scarier this year.

And yet a lot less shocking, as I felt I'd seen so much of it play out with Trump.

Cracked started a "trump presidency as tv drama" thing, After The Trump http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL ... rDduM6VfjU

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 18:40 
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So despite everything I've already conceded, it's still a case of "phew", even now, from a Tory perspective.


Indeed, thank God the Tories are still in, propped up by the lovely people from the DUP. We're saved.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... -power-dup

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The Tories will maintain that abortion is not really a significant issue in the deal with the DUP. The deal is all that matters. Women’s rights and LGBT rights are once again sidelined.

But all of us watching know that reproductive rights are not a side issue. We watch Donald Trump and his cronies legislate over the bodies of women and we know that we have to be vigilant over what we assume to be basic rights. No, this is not The Handmaid’s Tale, we are told, in a “calm down, dear” sort of way, and we should merely accept the DUP’s mix of creationism, misogyny and homophobia as a quirk of coalition. No.

Any government beholden to the DUP represents another step backwards for women. Make no mistake. Belatedly, perhaps, many have woken up to the struggles of women in Northern Ireland.

Now that they have, Theresa May should take off that T-shirt . This is not what a feminist looks like. This is what a woman who would sell out other women looks like. It is the face of betrayal.

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 18:56 
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I think that's really taking things out of context (my original comments obv, not your quoted stuff about the DUP). You're angry (which is entirely understandable; *I'm* angry as well); this thing sits very uncomfortably for both of us I have no doubt. I'm not interested in defending bigotry and/or intolerance on any level, and some of the things I've heard these last few days have made my last remaining hairs curl on end.

Ever the optimist I know, but actually I think there could be at least some good aspects to this though? For a start, hard Brexit is well and truly off the table. A large part of May's reasoning to call this election was to strengthen her hand in Parliament with a much larger working majority of Tory MPs, such that those Europhile (or even just Euro moderate) MPs who chose to rebel key votes would not be able to blow anything off course. But a minority government (itself comprising of "pseudo subgroups" like the Scottish Conservatives, who can effectively be regarded as distinctive coalition partners, not part of some homogeneous Conservative Party voting bloc), that's a whole different bag. I was quite a fan of the Con/Lib coalition, far more so than the outright Tory administration that followed it; I think history will judge it/them far more kindly than folks around these parts would ever care to admit/concede. In some ways, I think we're kind of back there now, albeit with some pretty dodgy elements to contend with as well. Even the DUP, though, will absolutely not accept a hard Brexit border with the Republic, so actually in this one specific respect, even they could even be helpful.

In broader terms, a delicate minority administration must be, by definition, vastly more collegiate and inclusive in its approach (if it's to survive), so for now at least, I think we can all forget about hard Right fundamentalist stuff like binning off social care/winter fuel payments and whatever other nonsense was mooted. Brexit is going to be quite enough to be getting on with.

From my side I have serious doubts, though, about how long things will last - I reckon it'll either implode almost immediately within days or a very few weeks, or failing that we might be looking at 1-2 years before the next GE. The massive uncertainty that a hung Parliament brings, not least to plummeting business confidence and grossly weakened negotiating hand with the EU is very much to be regretted, but nothing we can do about that now, I guess.

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 19:44 
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I'd agree with the broad thrust of what you're saying there Cavey in some regards, but it's only a slightly comforting side-effect of a fuck-up so big you can see it with the naked eye from space, but the DUP are disgusting and to me this demonstrates how the Tories will just do absolutely bloody anything to cling onto the power they clearly believe they were put on this earth to wield.

So yes, if this neuters the worst excesses of the Brexit that was originally mooted then it's to the good, but then again we need to remember that May went into this election looking for a mandate to take a wrecking ball to the UK economy and the hopes and aspirations of millions of people, especially the young.

The whole thing is a dreadful spectacle, Cameron and now May in the space of a couple of years have proven to be astonishingly reckless, literally gambling with the fate of a nation out of hubris and arrogance.

At least it finally blows apart the lie that the Conservative Party is the 'steady hand of government' or whatever other nonsense they love to trot out on a regular basis.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... y-of-chaos

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Somehow the myth of strong and stable Conservative government persists. For example: time and again, surveys suggest that voters trust the Tories more on the economy, despite the chaos unleashed by the pound-crashing, inflation-inducing referendum. Maybe it’s the patrician bearing of men like Cameron. Or the determined authoritarianism of May. This is unpleasant medicine, but you’re going to take it – it’ll do you good in the end. We know best. We’re the natural party of government, after all.

If the last seven years have taught us anything, it’s that this is pure fantasy – worse, a brazen lie. Forget the rhetoric, forget the home-counties-accountant demeanour of Philip Hammond. These people cannot be trusted to run the country. The record demonstrates clearly that they are the real party of chaos.

In the end it wasn’t Jeremy Corbyn who transported us back to the 1970s, but May. In February 1974 Edward Heath asked “Who Governs?”, before losing an election and paving the way for a second that October. It’s now 2017, but the question seems relevant again. Who do you believe is capable of governing in the national interest? Today’s Conservatives have shown beyond doubt that it isn’t them.

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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:05 
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I think I am going to sit back and watch this shit show unfold, as if it didn't have abjectly terrifying consequences, it'd be hilarious.


Oh, it's brilliant. You could almost film a cinematic trilogy, starting with Cameron in 2010 and ending at 22:01 on 5th May 2015, then the referendum farce and his defenestration, then ending on the premiership of Mrs May. I'd totally watch that.


Oh.


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:21 
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I'm sure I saw on Twitter that there's also a porn version called "Hard Brexit" :DD


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:38 
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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:13 
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I didn't want my me seeing that.

I need mind bleach.


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 Post subject: Re: General Election 2017
PostPosted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 14:05 
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https://heatst.com/world/philip-davies- ... e-and-won/

Magnanimous, as ever.

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Knickerless Virgin is a great porn pun.

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