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Author:  Satsuma [ Fri Apr 21, 2017 17:27 ]
Post subject:  Hollow Knight
Souls-like metroidvania? It's as good as that sounds.

It's kind of a shame that it's been release during a time when there's shit load of great games to occupy our time because the game is phenomenal.

Apparently it's a kickstarter game an' all. Who knew great games could arrive via that? No one. No one at all. Also, I'm not sure about the nationality of the developers but it has this fake Japanese language and kinda Japanese stylings that I really like. Are they Japanese? No one knows. No one will ever know.

Graphics: BEAUT
Sound: WUBBLY
How does it play: LIKE A DREAM. Only this is a dark and somber dream. I love Ori & The Blind Forest but now I love Hollow Knight.

Gerrit if you like:

1) metroidvania games; and,
2) yourself

Here's the release trailer:

Author:  RuySan [ Fri Apr 21, 2017 19:24 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
This is right on the top of the of my want list. I hope the movement is not analogue so I can play with my Wii classic controller
Author:  Satsuma [ Fri Apr 21, 2017 20:17 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
As far as I know, it definitely is analogue.

Stop wanting and more getting.
Author:  RuySan [ Sat Apr 22, 2017 9:21 ]
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Kind of a bummer since i feel analogue controls make 2d games less precise.

And no use in hurrying up to get it since i have a huge backlog of games to play.
Author:  Satsuma [ Sun May 07, 2017 22:13 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
38 hours later and I've got a 90% completion and I've found the true boss who is absolutely punishing me.

And I had enough punishment in the fecking White Palace which turned the game into Super Meat Boy, but that's only for the proper ending so if you don't want to do all that jazz then, say, I could have finished the game about 9 hours ago.

I'm not one to do collectibles and shit but ive been enjoying myself so much I've found 100% of the grubs.

I'd maintain that this game is super special.

Fuck this proper end boss though. I can't be arsed with his shit tonight. Gah.
Author:  Mr Dave [ Sun May 07, 2017 22:34 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
Still in wrapper.
Author:  RuySan [ Thu May 11, 2017 13:00 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
Satsuma wrote:
As far as I know, it definitely is analogue.

Stop wanting and more getting.


I started playing and it's not analogue, which is an annoyance since the game doesn't allow for non x-input controllers even with x360ce.

I have to use xpadder.

It's one of my pet peeves when a developer makes a nice 2d platformer and force us to play with a gamepad that just doesn't play well with this kind of game.

As for the game, it's nice, but I feel the blue and grey palette will get boring soon
Author:  Satsuma [ Thu May 11, 2017 22:54 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
If it isn't analogue then I don't know what analogue means in this context. Sorry about that! :(

It's not all grey and blue by the way. It's quite the beautiful looking game and there's some really great artwork on show with a fabulous atmosphere to boot. I reckon it took a fair few hours to really open the world up though.
Author:  Pundabaya [ Thu May 11, 2017 22:57 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
Eww, 2D platformer. No thanks.
Author:  RuySan [ Sat May 13, 2017 22:30 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
This game must have some of the best boss fights of all time. This is something that few game designers get right, but here they're just perfect.

Loved the Mantis Lords. "You thought you were go good for beating one? Now fight two at the same time".
Author:  Satsuma [ Wed May 17, 2017 23:16 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
RuySan wrote:
This game must have some of the best boss fights of all time. This is something that few game designers get right, but here they're just perfect.

Loved the Mantis Lords. "You thought you were go good for beating one? Now fight two at the same time".


Glad you're enjoying it!

I thought everything except the White Palace was just spot on.
Author:  RuySan [ Thu May 18, 2017 13:49 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
Yes, I'm 21 hours in and i feel the game is outstaying its welcome. So i doubt i'll go for the 100% ending (also because one of the dream warriors is kicking my ass). There's a bit too much backtracking, like every time i want to upgrade the nail or buy a charm. The stag stations are too far apart.

It's still a fantastic game and probably the best non Castlevania metroidvania.
Author:  Satsuma [ Thu May 18, 2017 14:16 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
Which Dream Warrior is causing you some yip?

When I got stuck I'd always clear off and do something else, that way I wouldn't get bored. It only fumbled when I got stuck on the end boss. I'd 90%'ed it, which was absolutely fine with me and I could have done less and still been happy with it.
Author:  RuySan [ Thu May 18, 2017 15:20 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
One in the queen's gardens which jumps all over the place and without predictable patterns.
Author:  Satsuma [ Thu May 18, 2017 16:32 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
Yeah, he's a shit. I'm not sure whether I loaded up with that Joni's gem thing as you don't get much time to heal and the gem where you get a longer invincibility after a hit and just wailed on him.

My fave gem was the grub one which turns you into a grub so you can move about while you're healing. It's reet helpful.
Author:  RuySan [ Thu May 18, 2017 16:38 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
I don't think I have that grub charm. I'm now in the Hollow Knight boss fight, and while it seems easy at first I haven't beat him yet because the fight is so long that i'll lose my concentration somewhere along the way.
Author:  Satsuma [ Thu May 18, 2017 16:51 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
I can't remember where I got the grub charm but I imagine it was given by the grubs after saving so many of them. Have you found the collector yet? He can help with finding more of them.

Oh and FYI you can finish the game and replay from the bench at any time thereafter if you want to come back later on. The Hollow Knight boss isn't too hard when you find the fight charm combo that works for you. Now the true boss? He can fuck off.
Author:  RuySan [ Fri May 19, 2017 10:00 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
Done today at the first try. The Hollow Knight boss fight might be the saddest since Sif from the dark souls.

I don't think I'll bother with the "true" ending. I saw the last boss fight on youtube and i don't see how I'll ever beat that thing.
Author:  Mr Dave [ Fri Jul 21, 2017 14:17 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
To commemorate "Satsuma" taking the wrapper off Zelda, I took the wrapper off this...

Some annoyances (teleporting enemies, hard to find map guys, those sodding bouncing mushrooms) but good thus rag.
Author:  Satsuma [ Fri Jul 21, 2017 15:01 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
Mr Dave wrote:
To commemorate "Satsuma" taking the wrapper off Zelda, I took the wrapper off this...

Some annoyances (teleporting enemies, hard to find map guys, those sodding bouncing mushrooms) but good thus rag.


The map guy is never too hard to find. Just follow his humming and the scraps of paper on the ground. I thought it was kinda cool knowing he's about and having to search an area for him.

Glad you're enjoying it though. It needs more love. Like me.

Also, there's an update coming in august with MOAR CONTENT.
Author:  Mr Dave [ Fri Jul 21, 2017 16:33 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
Satsuma wrote:
It needs more love. Like me.

I'm sure if you ask Myp nicely...
Author:  Mr Dave [ Mon Jul 24, 2017 19:59 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
White Palace done.

That was bollocks.
Author:  Satsuma [ Sun Oct 08, 2017 14:26 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
There’s a distinct lack of lore videos or information on this game which is annoying. I didn’t learn until the other day, for example, about the Grub bloke you come across. The old grandpa grub who throws you stuff when you rescue his other grubs, remember him?

Turns out, if you get all the grubs back safely and then return to him at some point in the future he eats the other grubs. There’s way more to this game and it needs someone to do a vid on it.
Author:  Mr Dave [ Sun Oct 08, 2017 14:32 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
Perhaps you should've got all the grubs then. (Like I did)

I still have yet to see all the new content, mind.
Author:  Satsuma [ Sun Oct 08, 2017 14:50 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
Mr Dave wrote:
Perhaps you should've got all the grubs then. (Like I did)

I still have yet to see all the new content, mind.


Erm, I did. He won’t do it unless you get them all back. He won’t eat them straightaway though - I think he eats them after Hollow Nest become corrupted maybe? I forget. It was in some video I watched.
Author:  Mr Dave [ Sun Oct 08, 2017 16:31 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
He were certainly large and plump last I visted him.
Author:  Satsuma [ Sun Oct 08, 2017 16:47 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
Mr Dave wrote:
He were certainly large and plump last I visted him.


Oh, you seen it already. Gotcha.
Author:  Satsuma [ Tue Jun 19, 2018 11:00 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
12 June for the Switch.

Also it’s had a whole bunch of free DLC since release. Amazing for such a quality title. And cheaps too.
Author:  Satsuma [ Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:38 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
Hollow Knight is absolutely fantastic. It’s the best Dark Souls Metroidvania ever made. It’s beautiful, it’s challenging and it’s had a bunch of free DLC and post-content launch. It’s also one of the games that made me put down my controller because there was no way I was going to beat the secret true boss, which I’m kinda upset about cause I’m so crap.

There was supposed to be paid DLC coming out for it but...it’s now a FULL BLOWN SEQUEL!

SQUEE!

Did I mention SQUEEEEEE!
Author:  Grim... [ Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:02 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
Better than Salt and Sanctuary? I fucking loved Salt and Sanctuary.
Author:  Satsuma [ Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:14 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
Grim... wrote:
Better than Salt and Sanctuary? I fucking loved Salt and Sanctuary.


I’m going to say...yes. Much better but I’d also like to add that I fucking loved Salt & Sanctuary too. However Salt and Sanctuary was just 2D Dark Souls and this has the Metroidvania element to it. For the price that the original Hollow Knight is going for, you’d be a fool not to give it a go. A FULE I SAY.
Author:  Grim... [ Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:16 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
Maybe I'll give it a go.
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:31 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
Grim... wrote:
Maybe I'll give it a go.

I have it for Switch but I don't love it. Something about the controls doesn't gel for me. It feels a bit floaty and imprecise.
Author:  Satsuma [ Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:48 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
I’ve never heard anyone complain about the controls before. The reviews have always praised its tight and responsive controls. I certainly never had any issues, and I’d probably notice too because the boss fights can be so challenging if the controls were letting me down rather than my ability I’d probably have had a hissy fit on here.
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:05 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
Yeah, I can't put my finger on it. Maybe a Switch thing?
Author:  Grim... [ Sun Mar 10, 2019 18:39 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
I don't really like it.
Author:  Satsuma [ Sun Mar 10, 2019 23:13 ]
Post subject:  Re: Hollow Knight
This makes me sad.
Author:  Grim... [ Wed Oct 09, 2019 22:01 ]
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Hollow Knight T-shirts on Qwertee today!
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