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Author:  asfish [ Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:56 ]
Post subject:  Electrical mystery
Last night I was doing a bit of pond maintenance with my son “helping”.

I get to the 2nd pond and my son chucks my secateurs in, they land on a Lilly pot so are only in about 6 inches of water.

I put my hand in to get them and get a mild electric shock. Then I do it again and the same thing, so one last time and I get them out.

At this point I was worried as this pond it my wildlife one and is full of newts, so I’m thinking any minute now I’m going to see them all dead on the surface. Put my hand in again and no shock?!

Check this morning and no dead animals and no shock.

I would say the shock was no worse and maybe a bit less that one of those electric shock roulette games you can buy.

No idea why this would happen, there had been no pump cables moved and that was working, everything is in IP65 boxes etc.
Author:  Mr Dave [ Tue Apr 04, 2017 10:58 ]
Post subject:  Re: Electrical mystery
Quick, Hire Joans.
Author:  MaliA [ Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:15 ]
Post subject:  Re: Electrical mystery
Mr Dave wrote:
Quick, Hire Joans.

?
Author:  Mr Russell [ Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:40 ]
Post subject:  Re: Electrical mystery
Both you and the newts are now immune to electric shocks?
Author:  Joans [ Tue Apr 04, 2017 12:21 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
Quick, Hire Joans.

I saw the thread and came running.
I've got nothing (obviously).
Author:  TheVision [ Tue Apr 04, 2017 12:30 ]
Post subject:  Re: Electrical mystery
Are you sure the water wasn't just really cold?
Author:  Zardoz [ Tue Apr 04, 2017 12:31 ]
Post subject:  Re: Electrical mystery
Electric eels?
Author:  asfish [ Tue Apr 04, 2017 12:53 ]
Post subject:  Re: Electrical mystery
All I can think off is that maybe there is a rip in the pump cable and its making contact with the water.

That said I would expect the breakers to flip which would have taken the whole garden power out

Think I'll replaced the pump tomorrow as I can't see that there is anything else that could be at fault
Author:  Bobbyaro [ Tue Apr 04, 2017 13:34 ]
Post subject:  Re: Electrical mystery
asfish wrote:
Last night I was doing a bit of pond maintenance with my son “helping”.

I get to the 2nd pond and my son chucks my secateurs in, they land on a Lilly pot so are only in about 6 inches of water.

I put my hand in to get them and get a mild electric shock. Then I do it again and the same thing, so one last time and I get them out.

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Author:  MaliA [ Tue Apr 04, 2017 13:36 ]
Post subject:  Re: Electrical mystery
Why is Homer made out of lego?
Author:  ApplePieOfDestiny [ Tue Apr 04, 2017 13:46 ]
Post subject:  Re: Electrical mystery
Have you tried turning the emperor fountain off?
Author:  DavPaz [ Tue Apr 04, 2017 16:34 ]
Post subject:  Re: Electrical mystery
Switch off the electrics. Get a professional to have a look. Especially if it's mains powered. Don't fuck around with electricity.

Joans.
Author:  asfish [ Tue Apr 04, 2017 18:06 ]
Post subject:  Re: Electrical mystery
Solved:)

It was the pump, water had the shock factor again tonight so I lifted it out.

Couldn't see any issues, but as soon as I put it back in the water, shock factor returned

So unplugged and in the bin, will get another one tomorrow.
Author:  KovacsC [ Tue Apr 04, 2017 22:59 ]
Post subject:  Re: Electrical mystery
Glad you found what was wrong.


Why on earth carry on touching the water??
Author:  DBSnappa [ Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:48 ]
Post subject:  Re: Electrical mystery
KovacsC wrote:
Glad you found what was wrong.


Why on earth carry on touching the water??

Well, in reality it was obviously an earthing or shielding issue with the pump, if it was full blown 240V 13A mains either the consumer unit would have tripped or we wouldn't have seen the start of the thread :)
Author:  Pundabaya [ Wed Apr 05, 2017 9:53 ]
Post subject:  Re: Electrical mystery
Some people are into that kind of stuff. Don't judge.
Author:  Satsuma [ Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:28 ]
Post subject:  Re: Electrical mystery
So it was the electric thing in the water causing the electrical mystery. I'm shocked. Or rather, you were. Ho ho.
Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Apr 05, 2017 10:38 ]
Post subject:  Re: Electrical mystery
The question on everyones lips is, did your plan to force Pokévolve your Magikarps work?
Author:  asfish [ Wed Apr 05, 2017 18:36 ]
Post subject:  Re: Electrical mystery
I went to my local Maidenhead Aquatics today to some more goldfish and a new pump

I had to buy the exact same bloody model of pump as its the only one for my size of pond that does filtering etc!

Keeping the receipt this time!
Author:  Pundabaya [ Wed Apr 05, 2017 18:42 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
The question on everyones lips is, did your plan to force Pokévolve your Magikarps work?

Title
Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Fri Apr 07, 2017 6:07 ]
Post subject:  Re: Electrical mystery
asfish wrote:
I went to my local Maidenhead Aquatics today to some more goldfish and a new pump

I had to buy the exact same bloody model of pump as its the only one for my size of pond that does filtering etc!

Keeping the receipt this time!


A naughty person might try putting the old pump back in the new box and asking for a refund in a couple of months time :ninja:
Author:  asfish [ Fri Apr 07, 2017 9:19 ]
Post subject:  Re: Electrical mystery
Sir Taxalot wrote:
asfish wrote:
I went to my local Maidenhead Aquatics today to some more goldfish and a new pump

I had to buy the exact same bloody model of pump as its the only one for my size of pond that does filtering etc!

Keeping the receipt this time!


A naughty person might try putting the old pump back in the new box and asking for a refund in a couple of months time :ninja:



That's a good idea, sadly I put the old one in the bin and they just collected it 10 mins ago!
Author:  Mr Russell [ Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:27 ]
Post subject:  Re: Electrical mystery
Best not to try and trick the universe anyway, you've already got away with avoiding electrical death.
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