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Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Feb 16, 2017 17:02 ]
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KovacsC wrote:
I am disappointed Z has not printed a flesh light :)

I don't have a printer yet.

Author:  GazChap [ Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:38 ]
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Had a Kickstarter update from the Tiko guys this morning basically saying that they're run out of money and are shutting everything down, and not giving refunds.

First time I've backed something on Kickstarter that hasn't reached completion. If nothing else, they need to refund me the $55 shipping fee they charged me nearly a year ago when they haven't shipped anything to me.

Author:  TheVision [ Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:46 ]
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That's rubbish. How much are you going to be out of pocket by?

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:47 ]
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Sorry to hear that, hope you can claw it back.

In other news I'm about to drop the coin on an Anet A8 kit this weekend.

Author:  markg [ Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:47 ]
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Fucking hell. By the looks of things they just didn't get it sorted well enough or quickly enough and Prusa clones have got so cheap in the meantime.

Author:  GazChap [ Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:51 ]
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TheVision wrote:
That's rubbish. How much are you going to be out of pocket by?

Assuming I get the $55 shipping fee back, $179.

Which is obviously worse in a post-referendum world than it would have been otherwise.

Author:  GazChap [ Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:53 ]
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markg wrote:
Fucking hell. By the looks of things they just didn't get it sorted well enough or quickly enough and Prusa clones have got so cheap in the meantime.

Indeed. They do all mostly still look like the sort of thing you'd built out of Meccano though, one of the things I liked about Tiko was that it was an entirely self-contained unit.

I've still got the RepRap Huxley up in the loft although I accidentally snapped a piece of it while lifting it up there about 6 months ago, so not sure if that's serviceable. It also doesn't have a spool-holder which is a major pain in the bum.

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Feb 24, 2017 17:33 ]
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Well I'm in now.

Big adventure ahead now I've pulled the trigger on an Anet A6 kit (£164 delivered). Will it take fucking ages to get here? Will I be able to build it? Will I cry?

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:40 ]
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Anet A6 kit arrived yesterday. Had no time last night to make a start so just looked at the bits.

Managed to get through from Hong Kong with no duty to pay, weighs a bloody ton too!

Author:  Zardoz [ Mon Apr 03, 2017 17:01 ]
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It's built! And thanks to Mark some of the wires that were making it not work are now making it work, and thanks to his familiarity with these things it's tweaked and spat out a test layer ok.

Being mad busy with all sorts recently means I've not had much of a chance to print anything myself yet, hopefully I'll get chance this week.

The build was really straight forward following Anet's online videos. Also came with a reel of (cheap ass) filament and all the tools needed, including some cutters that are very similar to a pair I paid £15+ for and a 16g micro SD card.

Cheap as chips!

Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Apr 05, 2017 0:02 ]
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Had some free time (whoop!) to have a crack with my 3D printer tonight. First thing I realised was the filament was caught round the cabling to the extruder and quite twisted somehow. As I untangled it the filament snapped. Remembered Mark saying everything needs to be heated up when changing over filament so I flicked it on... LCD screen showing garbage... after lots of turning it off and on again I realised the cable at the back of the LCD screen wasn't seated properly BINGO back in business!

Once the display told me the extruder was up to the right temp I tried pulling out the remaining filament but it wouldn't shift, I got some needle nose pliers on and tried to free it and ended up snapping the rest off the top. Read online that the cooled filament could have caused a 'plug' to form inside but it's too hot (and too late) for me to rummage about inside.

Hnnnnngnnnn.

Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Apr 05, 2017 0:03 ]
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You busy tomorrow night, Mark? :kiss:

Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Apr 05, 2017 0:57 ]
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And I cut my finger :'(

Author:  markg [ Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:21 ]
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Free later on tonight mate. Did you press down the lever to disengage the extruded gear, though?

Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:39 ]
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Yeah, I remembered you mentioned that.

Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Apr 05, 2017 23:24 ]
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Managed to sort out the filament problem after watching a couple of online videos and (partially) printed a test model with success!

Glass plate next and print out some reel brackets I've seen to have the filament placed in a better position.

Feel much better today now.

Author:  asfish [ Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:22 ]
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What sort of printer would I need to buy to be able to print these?

I quite fancy one, however to date the odd ones we have at work in various IT departments around the world are gather dust after printing the odd plastic model.

These adapters are useful for my sons train set and are always getting lost!

Also I was wondering how long they would take to print?

Author:  markg [ Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:06 ]
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Pretty much any 3D printer would be able to do those and take maybe 30-40 mins a piece.

One of these maybe if you don't want to have to build a kit:

https://hobbyking.com/en_us/fabrikator- ... 100-1.html

Don't be put off getting a kit, though. Zardoz managed it and he's a graphic designer/illustrator!

Either way you need to be prepared for the fact that it's not like buying a normal printer, getting these hobby-grade machines working well is almost a hobby in itself.

Author:  GazChap [ Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:36 ]
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I've heard nothing at all from Tiko about getting a refund.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:37 ]
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GazChap wrote:
I've heard nothing at all from Tiko about getting a refund.


Is it common to get refunds from kickstarter?

Author:  GazChap [ Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:42 ]
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Depends on the scenario. In this instance, I'm not expecting to get a refund for my original pledge. However, what I am angry about (and so are the other backers) is that around this time last year we were told that shipping would be beginning soon and they asked us to send $55 to cover shipping, outside Kickstarter's payment system.

Shipping did start in July that year, but only to the first 100 backers, and then they established there were all sorts of problems with their QA etc. so stopped shipping while they worked it out.

There's nearly 16,500 backers - assuming they all pledged enough to get one or more machines, that's nearly a million bucks of shipping fees that should be refunded.

Author:  myp [ Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:19 ]
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Good scam

Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:44 ]
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Sounds like you've all had fun playing with the printers, but have you made anything useful/usable?

Author:  markg [ Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:59 ]
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It depends on how you define useful I guess. I've made loads of things for my RC hobby, toys, planters, guitar and ukulele hangers other bits and pieces.

Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Thu Apr 06, 2017 23:46 ]
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markg wrote:
It depends on how you define useful I guess. I've made loads of things for my RC hobby, toys, planters, guitar and ukulele hangers other bits and pieces.


Fair point - I suppose anything that doesn't end up in the kitchen junk drawer (or wherever else all the plastic tat is shoved) would qualify as useful. Sounds like you have got some use out of it then.

I'd love to dick around with 3D printing, even though I'm not really sure why, or if there is any actual use-case for me.

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Apr 07, 2017 0:16 ]
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They're hypnotic too.

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:41 ]
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Need to work out how to dampen the noise when printing at night. It's currently sat on a hollow shelf thing in my loft, right above our bedroom so the sound carries and makes Mrs Z angry at me.

Thinking some kind of foam matt (ground matt?) underneath would dampen it a bit. Personally I like the noise.

Author:  markg [ Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:54 ]
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Just tell her that in a few months she won't even hear it any more, like living next to a train track. It'll be fine.

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Apr 07, 2017 13:07 ]
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I'll print her a helmet!

Author:  TheVision [ Fri Apr 07, 2017 13:52 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
I'll print her a helmet!


Genuine LOL!

Anyway, be careful with sound proofing it as you may make it cooling proof too!

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Apr 07, 2017 14:23 ]
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Thanks for the sound advice.

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Apr 07, 2017 14:27 ]
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4 small bulldog clips bought, still need a clip frame though.

Author:  markg [ Fri Apr 07, 2017 14:49 ]
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Asda do two for 2 quid, A4 size. Just make sure that it's glass and not plastic.

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Apr 07, 2017 15:08 ]
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Yeah I'll go there after work. The ones I picked up were plastic or fancy frames for £2.99 or more! No way was I going down that route.

Clips were 99p and came with matching elastic bands and TWO different sizes of paperclips. I went for green.

Author:  krazywookie [ Sat Apr 08, 2017 16:56 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
Yeah I'll go there after work. The ones I picked up were plastic or fancy frames for £2.99 or more! No way was I going down that route.

Clips were 99p and came with matching elastic bands and TWO different sizes of paperclips. I went for green.

I've lost all my elastic bands :(

Author:  Zardoz [ Sat Apr 08, 2017 22:28 ]
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Looks like the set I bought. You want my green elastic bands?

Author:  krazywookie [ Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:23 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
Looks like the set I bought. You want my green elastic bands?

Think you can ping them this far?

Author:  Zardoz [ Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:49 ]
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*prints megapult*

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:56 ]
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After much faffing, sad face, consultation and eureka moments. My modded #HellaFlush printer spat out my first usable thing!

An angled board camera mount for my 250 Quadcopter.

Image

3D printer noobie thoughts.

Cutting glass is horrible, and costly! Wasted £1 sheet on my first attempt.

Bald men buying large cans of hairspray in Morrisons look weird.

Car battery postal packaging foam makes great soundproofing.

This is fucking techno magic.

Author:  myp [ Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:21 ]
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What material did you use? I got some TH8A shifter plates made out of PLA. I wanted kevlar-reinforced nylon but it was about £50 a plate. :(

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:26 ]
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PLA but it can run ABS through too.

Author:  myp [ Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:30 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
PLA but it can run ABS through too.

Good to know. ;)

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:35 ]
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Might have to ask Mark for paddle prints as mines going to be tied up with my Simuloid for some time.

Author:  markg [ Thu Apr 13, 2017 13:42 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
Zardoz wrote:
PLA but it can run ABS through too.

Good to know. ;)

You can apparently make parts stronger by annealing them in an oven, but depending on the shape it might also ruin them and I have no idea if it actually works:

https://rigid.ink/blogs/news/how-to-ann ... r-strength

Some of the more exotic filaments need more exotic printers, though.

But post a link to the parts you got if you can and I'll have a look. I've got a roll of ABS at home.

Also Hulk SMASH!

Attachment:
HULK.jpg


Unfortunately some of his fingers came off when I removed the support. :(

Author:  myp [ Thu Apr 13, 2017 14:01 ]
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Wow, that's awesome!

I don't actually need anything done at the moment, but I'll let you know if that changes in the future. I'm not sure how long the screw threads will last made out of PLA...

Author:  markg [ Thu Apr 13, 2017 14:05 ]
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Do you mean there are metal screws that go into the PLA or screws actually made of PLA? If the former and if I was any good at Autodesk yet I'd rework the design with a recess for a nut to go into.

Author:  myp [ Thu Apr 13, 2017 14:09 ]
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markg wrote:
Do you mean there are metal screws that go into the PLA or screws actually made of PLA? If the former and if I was any good at Autodesk yet I'd rework the design with a recess for a nut to go into.

Metal screws go into the PLA threads. So eventually they will get destroyed.

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Apr 13, 2017 16:07 ]
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How long did Hulk take?

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Apr 13, 2017 16:09 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
How long did Hulk take?


Ask your mum

Author:  Firefox [ Thu Apr 13, 2017 16:34 ]
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Can anybody recommend a good 3D printing service, where you send a design file and money and they post you your printed thing back?

I quite fancy making myself a little Retropie handheld console, but even the designs that use ready-made Game Boy shells seem to rely on 3D printed structures that go inside (unless they're one-offs that cram everything in the case and then squirt a pint of hot-melt glue in).

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