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Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Wed Feb 01, 2017 21:44 ]
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I love the P38.

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Feb 02, 2017 13:30 ]
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I'm now the process of eBaying some stuff (and crossing fingers that my painting sells) to get the £170 to get that Tarantula kit, if anything else pops up in the meantime then sweet.

Should be popping round yours, Mark in a few weeks with a bag of bits and a couple of Shickers. ;)

Author:  markg [ Thu Feb 02, 2017 13:59 ]
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You'll be leaving with just the bag of bits. Honestly though I've not really looked, I assume it can't be all that hard to build them but I can't imagine it's something you'll do in an evening. It took me that long to build mine and that was already built.

Author:  Findus Fop [ Thu Feb 02, 2017 14:21 ]
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Can it print Star Points?

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Feb 02, 2017 16:09 ]
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I'll be printing someone a damn good thrashing!

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Feb 02, 2017 16:11 ]
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markg wrote:
You'll be leaving with just the bag of bits. Honestly though I've not really looked, I assume it can't be all that hard to build them but I can't imagine it's something you'll do in an evening. It took me that long to build mine and that was already built.

Yeah, I'm envisioning a build like an RC car, lots of chunks to build that join together at the end. A few nights worth of toil. It'll be part of the fun! :D / :(

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Feb 02, 2017 16:20 ]
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Leaving this here for reference.

http://tevoprinters.wikidot.com/tarantula-assembly

"no wobble on the Z-rod, visible or otherwise"

Author:  markg [ Thu Feb 02, 2017 16:31 ]
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I'm not going anywhere near your Z-rod, wobbly or otherwise.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Feb 02, 2017 16:37 ]
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markg wrote:
I'm not going anywhere near your Z-rod, wobbly or otherwise.


Y, is it the axis of evil, or remind you of an x?

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Feb 02, 2017 16:41 ]
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First job will be to create Z-Rod stiffeners.

Author:  markg [ Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:45 ]
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Kit all printed out for the next plane:

Attachment:
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Including 3D printed sprung undercarriage and rubber tyres!

More pics:

https://goo.gl/photos/nkMr6hR8dirEQnxq7

Author:  TheVision [ Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:46 ]
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That's awesome. How long did all that take to print?

Author:  myp [ Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:52 ]
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Cheaper than buying all those parts I hope?

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:11 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
Cheaper than buying all those parts I hope?

I suspect not in the short term when you include the cost of the printer.

It might not take too many projects to break even, though.

Author:  TheVision [ Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:20 ]
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And it's more fun!

Author:  markg [ Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:21 ]
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Yeah, it probably took maybe 100 hours to print them all out and perhaps a good few hours in total of actual effort in setting the prints up, although if I wanted to do it again I've got the printer settings files for each print all saved so there would be hardly any effort at all.

The filament I used was £19 for a 1 kilogram reel so I bought a roll of white and one of green but used about 1.2KG in total, plus $30 for the files. So it is much cheaper than buying a plane of a similar size/detail and it is fairly unique in some respects. Obviously cheaper again if I write this one off and need to replace it since the cost of the files can be subtracted. I know of someone who bought the files and then sent them to a 3D printers for a quote and they came back with $400.

But as TheVision says the money's not really the point at all, I've learned a lot and found it enjoyable to do in much the same way that people generally take up carpentry as a hobby mostly because they gain satisfaction from doing it rather than just wanting cheaper furniture.

Author:  KovacsC [ Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:24 ]
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I am disappointed Z has not printed a flesh light :)

Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:27 ]
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KovacsC wrote:
I am disappointed Z has not printed a flesh light :)

How do you know he hasn't?

Author:  KovacsC [ Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:28 ]
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He would have posted pics of it... :)

Author:  GazChap [ Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:43 ]
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I have submitted a refund request for my Tiko.

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Feb 16, 2017 17:02 ]
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KovacsC wrote:
I am disappointed Z has not printed a flesh light :)

I don't have a printer yet.

Author:  GazChap [ Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:38 ]
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Had a Kickstarter update from the Tiko guys this morning basically saying that they're run out of money and are shutting everything down, and not giving refunds.

First time I've backed something on Kickstarter that hasn't reached completion. If nothing else, they need to refund me the $55 shipping fee they charged me nearly a year ago when they haven't shipped anything to me.

Author:  TheVision [ Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:46 ]
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That's rubbish. How much are you going to be out of pocket by?

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:47 ]
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Sorry to hear that, hope you can claw it back.

In other news I'm about to drop the coin on an Anet A8 kit this weekend.

Author:  markg [ Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:47 ]
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Fucking hell. By the looks of things they just didn't get it sorted well enough or quickly enough and Prusa clones have got so cheap in the meantime.

Author:  GazChap [ Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:51 ]
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TheVision wrote:
That's rubbish. How much are you going to be out of pocket by?

Assuming I get the $55 shipping fee back, $179.

Which is obviously worse in a post-referendum world than it would have been otherwise.

Author:  GazChap [ Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:53 ]
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markg wrote:
Fucking hell. By the looks of things they just didn't get it sorted well enough or quickly enough and Prusa clones have got so cheap in the meantime.

Indeed. They do all mostly still look like the sort of thing you'd built out of Meccano though, one of the things I liked about Tiko was that it was an entirely self-contained unit.

I've still got the RepRap Huxley up in the loft although I accidentally snapped a piece of it while lifting it up there about 6 months ago, so not sure if that's serviceable. It also doesn't have a spool-holder which is a major pain in the bum.

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Feb 24, 2017 17:33 ]
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Well I'm in now.

Big adventure ahead now I've pulled the trigger on an Anet A6 kit (£164 delivered). Will it take fucking ages to get here? Will I be able to build it? Will I cry?

Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Mar 30, 2017 10:40 ]
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Anet A6 kit arrived yesterday. Had no time last night to make a start so just looked at the bits.

Managed to get through from Hong Kong with no duty to pay, weighs a bloody ton too!

Author:  Zardoz [ Mon Apr 03, 2017 17:01 ]
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It's built! And thanks to Mark some of the wires that were making it not work are now making it work, and thanks to his familiarity with these things it's tweaked and spat out a test layer ok.

Being mad busy with all sorts recently means I've not had much of a chance to print anything myself yet, hopefully I'll get chance this week.

The build was really straight forward following Anet's online videos. Also came with a reel of (cheap ass) filament and all the tools needed, including some cutters that are very similar to a pair I paid £15+ for and a 16g micro SD card.

Cheap as chips!

Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Apr 05, 2017 0:02 ]
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Had some free time (whoop!) to have a crack with my 3D printer tonight. First thing I realised was the filament was caught round the cabling to the extruder and quite twisted somehow. As I untangled it the filament snapped. Remembered Mark saying everything needs to be heated up when changing over filament so I flicked it on... LCD screen showing garbage... after lots of turning it off and on again I realised the cable at the back of the LCD screen wasn't seated properly BINGO back in business!

Once the display told me the extruder was up to the right temp I tried pulling out the remaining filament but it wouldn't shift, I got some needle nose pliers on and tried to free it and ended up snapping the rest off the top. Read online that the cooled filament could have caused a 'plug' to form inside but it's too hot (and too late) for me to rummage about inside.

Hnnnnngnnnn.

Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Apr 05, 2017 0:03 ]
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You busy tomorrow night, Mark? :kiss:

Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Apr 05, 2017 0:57 ]
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And I cut my finger :'(

Author:  markg [ Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:21 ]
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Free later on tonight mate. Did you press down the lever to disengage the extruded gear, though?

Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:39 ]
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Yeah, I remembered you mentioned that.

Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Apr 05, 2017 23:24 ]
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Managed to sort out the filament problem after watching a couple of online videos and (partially) printed a test model with success!

Glass plate next and print out some reel brackets I've seen to have the filament placed in a better position.

Feel much better today now.

Author:  asfish [ Thu Apr 06, 2017 7:22 ]
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What sort of printer would I need to buy to be able to print these?

I quite fancy one, however to date the odd ones we have at work in various IT departments around the world are gather dust after printing the odd plastic model.

These adapters are useful for my sons train set and are always getting lost!

Also I was wondering how long they would take to print?

Author:  markg [ Thu Apr 06, 2017 8:06 ]
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Pretty much any 3D printer would be able to do those and take maybe 30-40 mins a piece.

One of these maybe if you don't want to have to build a kit:

https://hobbyking.com/en_us/fabrikator- ... 100-1.html

Don't be put off getting a kit, though. Zardoz managed it and he's a graphic designer/illustrator!

Either way you need to be prepared for the fact that it's not like buying a normal printer, getting these hobby-grade machines working well is almost a hobby in itself.

Author:  GazChap [ Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:36 ]
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I've heard nothing at all from Tiko about getting a refund.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:37 ]
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GazChap wrote:
I've heard nothing at all from Tiko about getting a refund.


Is it common to get refunds from kickstarter?

Author:  GazChap [ Thu Apr 06, 2017 9:42 ]
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Depends on the scenario. In this instance, I'm not expecting to get a refund for my original pledge. However, what I am angry about (and so are the other backers) is that around this time last year we were told that shipping would be beginning soon and they asked us to send $55 to cover shipping, outside Kickstarter's payment system.

Shipping did start in July that year, but only to the first 100 backers, and then they established there were all sorts of problems with their QA etc. so stopped shipping while they worked it out.

There's nearly 16,500 backers - assuming they all pledged enough to get one or more machines, that's nearly a million bucks of shipping fees that should be refunded.

Author:  myp [ Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:19 ]
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Good scam

Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:44 ]
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Sounds like you've all had fun playing with the printers, but have you made anything useful/usable?

Author:  markg [ Thu Apr 06, 2017 11:59 ]
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It depends on how you define useful I guess. I've made loads of things for my RC hobby, toys, planters, guitar and ukulele hangers other bits and pieces.

Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Thu Apr 06, 2017 23:46 ]
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markg wrote:
It depends on how you define useful I guess. I've made loads of things for my RC hobby, toys, planters, guitar and ukulele hangers other bits and pieces.


Fair point - I suppose anything that doesn't end up in the kitchen junk drawer (or wherever else all the plastic tat is shoved) would qualify as useful. Sounds like you have got some use out of it then.

I'd love to dick around with 3D printing, even though I'm not really sure why, or if there is any actual use-case for me.

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Apr 07, 2017 0:16 ]
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They're hypnotic too.

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:41 ]
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Need to work out how to dampen the noise when printing at night. It's currently sat on a hollow shelf thing in my loft, right above our bedroom so the sound carries and makes Mrs Z angry at me.

Thinking some kind of foam matt (ground matt?) underneath would dampen it a bit. Personally I like the noise.

Author:  markg [ Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:54 ]
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Just tell her that in a few months she won't even hear it any more, like living next to a train track. It'll be fine.

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Apr 07, 2017 13:07 ]
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I'll print her a helmet!

Author:  TheVision [ Fri Apr 07, 2017 13:52 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
I'll print her a helmet!


Genuine LOL!

Anyway, be careful with sound proofing it as you may make it cooling proof too!

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