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Author:  Joans [ Sat Jan 14, 2017 20:19 ]
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GJ has been having "issues" with her laptop, one of which is that Windows Update has been refusing to update (from what I could see it was just failing to install the anniversary edition). Fortunately, it finally decided that it could install that update earlier and that's when the problem started.

Once Windows has started, you don't seem to be able to do anything (I have manged to get Task Manager up, which doesn't really indicate much of an issue, apart from 100% disk usage for a while), but other than that nothing. I've tried System Restore, but it hasn't been turned on, so there's nothing to restore. I can't get a command prompt up (oh, I can from the troubleshooting options, but I'm not actually sure what to do now I'm there), and it doesn't want to boot into safe mode (choosing any of the safe mode options just seems to freeze the laptop at the initial Fujitsu logo screen). Next step seems to be a system repair, (I've just tried the Start-up Repair option, but it said it couldn't repair anything), which seems like a last resort, is there anything I've missed?

Author:  DavPaz [ Sat Jan 14, 2017 22:03 ]
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Is it related to this issue?

http://www.zdnet.com/article/why-window ... n-recover/

Author:  DavPaz [ Sat Jan 14, 2017 22:05 ]
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More here too

http://www.windowscentral.com/windows10 ... ms-how-fix

Author:  Joans [ Sun Jan 15, 2017 0:23 ]
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I think it's this one which I found in the second link you posted. Seems like there's a solution, but I'll have to do a bit more reading tomorrow to work out how I manage to use the laptop long enough to actually implement it.
Cheers.

Author:  DavPaz [ Sun Jan 15, 2017 9:17 ]
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Good luck!

Author:  Joans [ Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:44 ]
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Given that windows wouldn't actually let me do anything, I left it reverting to its previous state overnight, which at least seems to have got it into a usable state.
I'll have a bit more of a read through those links to try and pre-empt any issues with the anniversary update, but the reddit did seem to descend into a load of different solutions which some people claimed fixed their problems, but for others it didn't. Even better were the ones where it seemed to fix their problem, but then it came back.

This is a job for another day, I think. Thanks again for pointing me in the right sort of direction.

Author:  DavPaz [ Sun Jan 15, 2017 11:51 ]
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You're welcome. Microsoft screwed the pooch on the anniversary update. Or SP1 as it should have been called

Author:  Goddess Jasmine [ Sun Jan 15, 2017 18:41 ]
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Thanks for your help Davpaz. I can now access and use the laptop. It's been backed up to the hilt just in case!

Author:  DavPaz [ Sun Jan 15, 2017 18:48 ]
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Goddess Jasmine wrote:
Thanks for your help Davpaz. I can now access and use the laptop. It's been backed up to the hilt just in case!

De nada. I'm a professional googler ;)

Author:  MaliA [ Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:49 ]
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Hi guys!

TechnoKnight MaliA of The Northern Wastes has just rudden into town. He needs YOUR HELP to fix The Laptop. Then, he can regurgitate The Knowledge,claim it as his own, be the hero, and we will all learn something.

The Laptop is a HP Envy running Windows 10. The onboard wireless connects to sky router, andd is sometines fine, but will regularly switch off and says "no internet". Power saving for the wireless is off.

Any ideas?

MrsA thanks you in advance

Author:  KovacsC [ Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:59 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Hi guys!

TechnoKnight MaliA of The Northern Wastes has just rudden into town. He needs YOUR HELP to fix The Laptop. Then, he can regurgitate The Knowledge,claim it as his own, be the hero, and we will all learn something.

The Laptop is a HP Envy running Windows 10. The onboard wireless connects to sky router, andd is sometines fine, but will regularly switch off and says "no internet". Power saving for the wireless is off.

Any ideas?

MrsA thanks you in advance


I had that with windows 10. Let me see what I did

Author:  Cras [ Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:00 ]
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How regularly is regularly? Are you in the same room as the router? When was the router last power cycled?

Looking to see if there's newer drivers for the laptop wireless isn't a bad first step.

Author:  MaliA [ Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:04 ]
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Every day, 5 reboots of laptoplast night.
Router in next room, all other devices ok.
Will power cycle router
MrsA updating drivers now

Author:  myp [ Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:06 ]
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Does it stay connected to the network but give the yellow warning triangle and say 'no internet' or does it disconnect completely? Is it set to auto connect? Do all other devices work fine during the outage?

Author:  MaliA [ Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:08 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
Does it stay connected to the network but give the yellow warning triangle and say 'no internet' or does it disconnect completely? Is it set to auto connect? Do all other devices work fine during the outage?


Gets yellow warning triangle with "no internet" , is set to connect automatically, everything else fine.

Author:  myp [ Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:09 ]
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If you right click and troubleshoot it it will try to repair your connection. Also might say what's wrong.

Author:  Cras [ Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:10 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
If you right click and troubleshoot it it will try to repair your connection. Also might say what's wrong.


lol

Author:  markg [ Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:11 ]
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Surely it must have happened at least once in the history of mankind.

Author:  myp [ Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:13 ]
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Cras wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
If you right click and troubleshoot it it will try to repair your connection. Also might say what's wrong.


lol

It's actually better than release and renew these days.

Author:  Jem [ Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:23 ]
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Oh I had a similar problem - assumed it was the inbuilt wifi dying so I bought a wireless dongle, which worked fine til I smashed it up so I reverted back to inbuilt wifi and it's never done it since.

That probably offers no useful information whatsoever :D

I would suggest making sure the wifi thingymabob drivers and Windows 10 are up to date if you haven't already...

Author:  DavPaz [ Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:46 ]
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Go to device manager > uninstall device (deleting drivers). Then scan for hardware changes.

Oh, you'll need to be on a wired connection before you do this.

Do these outages possible coincide with a microwave going on, or a hoover, or a wireless landline call, or anything else that has the potential to give out interference?

Author:  Cras [ Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:49 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
or a hoover


MR SUSPICIOUS FACE

Author:  Nik [ Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:01 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Does it stay connected to the network but give the yellow warning triangle and say 'no internet' or does it disconnect completely? Is it set to auto connect? Do all other devices work fine during the outage?


Gets yellow warning triangle with "no internet" , is set to connect automatically, everything else fine.


So it stays connected to the router, but no internet? And other devices get the internet ok? You haven't got DNS manually configured on the laptop, have you?

Author:  MrChris [ Wed Mar 29, 2017 12:07 ]
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Factory reset the laptop.

Author:  MaliA [ Wed Mar 29, 2017 18:01 ]
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Drivers updated, seems to be ok so far. Thanks, all.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:09 ]
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Worked fine since updates, allowing MrsA to work, and me to do work in the evening. Thanks, all!

Author:  DavPaz [ Thu Mar 30, 2017 9:22 ]
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Giphy "payment due":
https://media.giphy.com/media/Rflt3mKszARBC/giphy-loop.mp4

Author:  MaliA [ Tue Apr 04, 2017 13:44 ]
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Now, the stupid thing will only charge if lid is down.

Going to buy a new one, but not HP on this experience.

Author:  KovacsC [ Tue Apr 04, 2017 14:00 ]
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Yes. Sounds a plan

As I don't work for HP anymore. Go Dell??

Author:  MaliA [ Tue May 16, 2017 10:38 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Now, the stupid thing will only charge if lid is down.

Going to buy a new one, but not HP on this experience.


Probably will get 13 inch macbook air, as it should just work. Any pitfalls?

Author:  Kern [ Tue May 16, 2017 10:39 ]
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MaliA wrote:
MaliA wrote:
Now, the stupid thing will only charge if lid is down.

Going to buy a new one, but not HP on this experience.


Probably will get 13 inch macbook air, as it should just work. Any pitfalls?


You'll become a Mac user.

Author:  Grim... [ Tue May 16, 2017 10:55 ]
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Money.

Author:  myp [ Tue May 16, 2017 10:58 ]
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If it only charges with the lid down have you looked at your power options in the control panel?

Author:  DavPaz [ Tue May 16, 2017 11:12 ]
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MaliA wrote:
MaliA wrote:
Now, the stupid thing will only charge if lid is down.

Going to buy a new one, but not HP on this experience.


Probably will get 13 inch macbook air, as it should just work. Any pitfalls?

Smugness and turtlenecks

Author:  Joans [ Tue May 16, 2017 12:17 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
MaliA wrote:
MaliA wrote:
Now, the stupid thing will only charge if lid is down.

Going to buy a new one, but not HP on this experience.


Probably will get 13 inch macbook air, as it should just work. Any pitfalls?

Smugness and turtlenecks

The macbook won't mind.

Author:  Zardoz [ Tue May 16, 2017 12:28 ]
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:D

Author:  Cras [ Tue May 16, 2017 12:35 ]
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Kern wrote:
MaliA wrote:
MaliA wrote:
Now, the stupid thing will only charge if lid is down.

Going to buy a new one, but not HP on this experience.


Probably will get 13 inch macbook air, as it should just work. Any pitfalls?


You'll become a Mac user.


Not necessarily - my 11" MacBook Air hasn't booted into anything but Windows in years.

Author:  MaliA [ Wed Jun 28, 2017 15:16 ]
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Got a Macbook Air in the end. Thank you for your help, though. Stupid HP Envy.

Author:  DavPaz [ Wed Jun 28, 2017 15:32 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Got a Macbook Air in the end. Thank you for your help, though. Stupid HP Envy.

*Looks forward to Mac help thread*

Author:  MaliA [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 20:27 ]
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Now the HP laptop is fine. Bloody Nora.

Author:  ApplePieOfDestiny [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 20:45 ]
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It must have been jealous about the MacBook.

Author:  MaliA [ Wed Jul 19, 2017 20:46 ]
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<mutters>

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