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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:06 
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We have a customer request to look into a possible solution for blocking commercial and user’s Drones entering a site. Has anyone deployed a solution which can provide a barrier against Drone flying in secure areas.

I am after a solution which,
• Creates a barrier between a Handheld or other device and a Flying Drone.
• Technology that is available to block radio signals. This should allow blocking a Drone entering a Site .
• The Drone will be able to approach but fall out of the sky once past the barrier because the signal has been blocked.
• Need to be sure that the solution caters for various heights.

Any solution or technology identified would be great.

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 Post subject: Re: Drone Issue
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I suggested that, to blank looks.

Also the goalkeeper system from a ship was pooh poohed too. (google it it is amazing, it shreds missiles under a hail of lead)

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 Post subject: Re: Drone Issue
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 Post subject: Re: Drone Issue
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:11 
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 Post subject: Re: Drone Issue
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:13 
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When you say a secure site is this site actually categorised airspace such that even aeroplanes may not fly over it? If not then I think they would be on pretty shaky legal ground even where the drone operator was too. You don't own the sky above your property and you have no more right to knock drones out of the sky than you do aeroplanes.


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 Post subject: Re: Drone Issue
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:14 
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Big signs stating that your list of requirements will happen. Drone operators won't put their baby's in that sort of peril.


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 Post subject: Re: Drone Issue
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:15 
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When you say a secure site is this site actually categorised airspace such that even aeroplanes may not fly over it? If not then I think they would be on pretty shaky legal ground even where the drone operator was too. You don't own the sky above your property and you have no more right to knock drones out of the sky than you do aeroplanes.



Think MoD sites.... :)

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 Post subject: Re: Drone Issue
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:16 
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Build a mega-done over the site. Then drones can fly about all they want but never get close to the sensitive subject.


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 Post subject: Re: Drone Issue
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Something that deploys an EMP when a drone is detected. It seemed to work on CoD, if I remember right.

And it'll distract the customer from the minor drone issues when it goes off so win/win I reckon!

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Suggest they build a wall and get the drone users to pay for it.
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 Post subject: Re: Drone Issue
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• Technology that is available to block radio signals. This should allow blocking a Drone entering a Site .
• The Drone will be able to approach but fall out of the sky once past the barrier because the signal has been blocked.

Ihttps://www.ofcom.org.uk/spectrum/radi ... aw/jammers
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Deliberate Interference
The use of any apparatus, whether or not wireless telegraphy apparatus, for the purpose of interfering with any wireless telegraphy, is an offence under the Wireless Telegraphy Act 2006. It is an indictable offence that on conviction in Crown Court carries a maximum penalty of two years imprisonment and/or an unlimited fine. The courts can also order forfeit of any apparatus used in the commission of the offence.

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 Post subject: Re: Drone Issue
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:20 
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Isn't blocking radio signals against the law?

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 Post subject: Re: Drone Issue
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flis wrote:
Something that deploys an EMP when a drone is detected. It seemed to work on CoD, if I remember right.

And it'll distract the customer from the minor drone issues when it goes off so win/win I reckon!


Wouldn't an EMP disrupt your own communications too though? You'd need something like a targeted blast of anti-radio wave to stop communications with the drone.

I'd suggest playing Radio 1 funnelled down a long tube of toilet rolls taped together at the drone. The ONLY downsides would be you'd need someone to man the toilet roll tube 24 hours.


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 Post subject: Re: Drone Issue
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
KovacsC wrote:
• Technology that is available to block radio signals. This should allow blocking a Drone entering a Site .
• The Drone will be able to approach but fall out of the sky once past the barrier because the signal has been blocked.

Ihttps://www.ofcom.org.uk/spectrum/radi ... aw/jammers
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Deliberate Interference
The use of any apparatus, whether or not wireless telegraphy apparatus, for the purpose of interfering with any wireless telegraphy, is an offence under the Wireless Telegraphy Act 2006. It is an indictable offence that on conviction in Crown Court carries a maximum penalty of two years imprisonment and/or an unlimited fine. The courts can also order forfeit of any apparatus used in the commission of the offence.

GL,HF
There are some systems being trialled around airports. So I guess exceptions to that are made and no doubt the MoD would be able to get something in place but why are they asking their IT supplier when any number of defence contractors are working on these sorts of countermeasures? It seems bizarre.


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 Post subject: Re: Drone Issue
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:26 
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 Post subject: Re: Drone Issue
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 Post subject: Re: Drone Issue
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:28 
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 Post subject: Re: Drone Issue
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Just get Zardoz to fly his drone over the sight.

I've seen his videos and the way he flies with reckless abandon for his own safety and the safety of others would mean no one with an expensive drone would dare fly close to him.


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 Post subject: Re: Drone Issue
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krazywookie wrote:
Angry kestrels with technophobia.
Bald eagles rather than kestrels but yeah, already being done:

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/dutch ... les-2016-9


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 Post subject: Re: Drone Issue
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 Post subject: Re: Drone Issue
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Tell all the drone operators that the site is somewhere else. Towcester for example.


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 Post subject: Re: Drone Issue
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markg wrote:
krazywookie wrote:
Angry kestrels with technophobia.
Bald eagles rather than kestrels but yeah, already being done:

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/dutch ... les-2016-9

That's fucking amazing


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 Post subject: Re: Drone Issue
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You need to ask Gazchap, he's the expert on drones going where they shouldn't.


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 Post subject: Re: Drone Issue
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Anti-drone Drone fitted with whirly blades.

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 Post subject: Re: Drone Issue
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Just get Zardoz to fly his drone over the sight.

I've seen his videos and the way he flies with reckless abandon for his own safety and the safety of others would mean no one with an expensive drone would dare fly close to him.

:metul:

Or a very very big wall.

Or curtains.

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Saturnalian wrote:
flis wrote:
Something that deploys an EMP when a drone is detected. It seemed to work on CoD, if I remember right.

And it'll distract the customer from the minor drone issues when it goes off so win/win I reckon!


Wouldn't an EMP disrupt your own communications too though? You'd need something like a targeted blast of anti-radio wave to stop communications with the drone.

I'd suggest playing Radio 1 funnelled down a long tube of toilet rolls taped together at the drone. The ONLY downsides would be you'd need someone to man the toilet roll tube 24 hours.


CoD taught me that your EMPs only damage the enemy, because reasons.

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Zardoz wrote:
*looks at Quad and radio gear*
*Buys lots of small levers and a chair*
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but the eagles, man!


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krazywookie wrote:
Zardoz wrote:
*looks at Quad and radio gear*
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but the eagles, man!

No one said this was gonna be easy.

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Why The fuck are the mod asking a software contractor with no experience to look into this? It's The fucking mod,ffs!

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Why The fuck are the mod asking a software contractor with no experience to look into this? It's The fucking mod,ffs!


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You need to ask Gazchap, he's the expert on drones going where they shouldn't.

:'(

Don't know much about stopping them going where they shouldn't - if anything I'm the last person to ask ;)


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Why The fuck are the mod asking a software contractor with no experience to look into this? It's The fucking mod,ffs!


Because I am awesome.

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Bobbyaro wrote:
Why The fuck are the mod asking a software contractor with no experience to look into this? It's The fucking mod,ffs!


Because I am awesome.

...which is why you're asking beex to do your homework?! ;)


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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
KovacsC wrote:
Bobbyaro wrote:
Why The fuck are the mod asking a software contractor with no experience to look into this? It's The fucking mod,ffs!


Because I am awesome.

...which is why you're asking beex to do your homework?! ;)



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