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 Post subject: Re: Westworld
PostPosted: Fri Dec 23, 2016 9:17 
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Westworld Season One finish!

It was excellent, and whilst most of the reveals are done somewhat explicitly in the closing episodes I did find these two videos quite useful to piece a few extra things together (linked below). These are pure mega-spoilers, of course, so don't watch them unless you've watched all of Season One.

I don't think it was perfect, and there's a substantial suspension of disbelief required to buy into many of the techy elements of the park, how the hosts function and are controlled (or not controlled....), and I don't think it was always entirely consistent in following its own rules. The pacing was slightly off too IMO, although apparently it had a pretty tortured shooting and production schedule so that may well explain that side of things.

Overall though, splendid telly and great watch. Very much enjoyed it and would highly recommend it to others.

Timeline explained video - https://youtu.be/w1JgaowjU90

Ending explained video - https://youtu.be/K9AwvWGjJeQ


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 Post subject: Re: Westworld
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 17:24 
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I'm really missing this. I think I need to go back and watch it again knowing what I know now. I don't think I've ever said that about a series before.

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 Post subject: Re: Westworld
PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2018 20:15 
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So that 90 minute finale then? Meh.


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 Post subject: Re: Westworld
PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:00 

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I thought it was good, did you watch the Marvelesque after credits teaser?


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 Post subject: Re: Westworld
PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 22:29 
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The biggest issue for me was Maeve’s journey. It was deeply unsatisfying as was her “power” which only transpired when it was needed for a contrived plot point. But she wants to give robots a choice! Oh, she’s just murdered an army with her mind. Meh.

S1 has a great hook about a theme park without conscience whereas S2’s theme of robots gaining conscience was done poorly and clouded with a terribly convoluted subplot about recreating humans and humans living forever. It inevitably descended into massive battles and killing and more killing and more killing. One episode has a showdown with an army of soldiers for seemingly no other reason but to fill airtime. The best episode for me was Akecheta’s episode which had a simple story beautifully told. It had everything about robots becoming conscious, the gods they feared, personal loss and salvation and how they found hope. If the series had paired back on the daft subplot it could have been amazing. It wanted to be cleverer than the viewer with lots of techno mumble jumbo dialogue and long discussions on freedom and choice and blah blah blah. No, just make an interesting plot for robots becoming awoke from a personal hell. Like the Indian tale.

I’d compare season 1 & 2 to The Matrix and it’s sequels. Let’s hope that season 3 isn’t Matrix Revolutions.


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 Post subject: Re: Westworld
PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:53 

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Okay, fair point I agree on Akecheta's episode, definitely my favourite as well.

I was left feeling a little sour over Maeve as well; she has all this power then it ended in such a way that left me thinking "Why didn't she just go with them?"

Let us hope future series as you say aren't terrible.

(Also I actually quite liked Matrix Revolutions.)


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 Post subject: Re: Westworld
PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2018 9:08 
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(Also I actually quite liked Matrix Revolutions.)

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https://media1.giphy.com/media/3o751SxCutN2uZtIOc/giphy-loop.mp4

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I love the gif that giphy selected for you.


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 Post subject: Re: Westworld
PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2018 21:45 
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I think Maeve will be rekindled in the next series, they set it up by handing her over to the staff that helped her in the first place.

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 Post subject: Re: Westworld
PostPosted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 9:12 

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I see your point; they did copy her code (or the ability to spread commands) so it's likely.


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 Post subject: Re: Westworld
PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 10:48 
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So, season 2 of Westworld was mostly a fucking shitshow then. Thoroughly disappointed after how good S1 was. S2 was just a mess of badly implemented story-telling and overly wrought nonsense, with a huge chunk of added filler when they'd run out of clever-clever horseshit to throw at the wall. I found aspects of the finale genuinely embarrassing to watch and am now on the fence about whether to even bother with the next season when it finally rolls around.


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