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Author:  TheJacket [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 16:21 ]
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more down to the number of players that were out in the real world, PS4 being a "media hub" and millions sold, publishers picked the format they could make money out of....

Author:  Grim... [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 16:23 ]
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You mean PS3, right? HD-DVD was long gone before the PS4 came along.

Author:  TheJacket [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 16:28 ]
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i DO mean the PS3

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 16:40 ]
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I often wonder how that particular format war would have gone if the 360 had had the HD-DVD drive internally, right form the start.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 17:55 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
I often wonder how that particular format war would have gone if the 360 had had the HD-DVD drive internally, right form the start.

It would have meant the 360 wouldn't have enjoyed its large price advantage over the PS3, and I think that might have handed the generation to Sony. Microsoft were very much the underdogs at the time, and the $599 PS3 price point was a big part of why Sony failed to gain early traction.

Author:  Kern [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 19:11 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Aside - Mate, get a copy of Ticket to Ride, Colt Express, Cash and Guns , and Pandemic and take that along with a decent bottle of Port. Nobody retires early and you will have much more fun. Then thank me, later. Don't waste your life with fucking Monopoly.


Agree but if people play 'Monopoly' correctly (eg auctions if someone doesn't buy a property; no fucking money on Free Parking; trading all the time; learning the evils of capitalism) it isn't that bad. If you read and play by the rules.

But 'Settlers of Catan' is still the better trading game so play that instead.

Author:  MaliA [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 19:23 ]
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Kern wrote:
MaliA wrote:
Aside - Mate, get a copy of Ticket to Ride, Colt Express, Cash and Guns , and Pandemic and take that along with a decent bottle of Port. Nobody retires early and you will have much more fun. Then thank me, later. Don't waste your life with fucking Monopoly.


Agree but if people play 'Monopoly' correctly (eg auctions if someone doesn't buy a property; no fucking money on Free Parking; trading all the time; learning the evils of capitalism) it isn't that bad. If you read and play by the rules.



The 'Paying your rent"somehow"' rule is pretty good, too.

Author:  Cras [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 21:26 ]
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Mali has played very different games of monopoly to me.

Author:  Mimi [ Sat Oct 15, 2016 8:28 ]
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Kern wrote:
MaliA wrote:
Aside - Mate, get a copy of Ticket to Ride, Colt Express, Cash and Guns , and Pandemic and take that along with a decent bottle of Port. Nobody retires early and you will have much more fun. Then thank me, later. Don't waste your life with fucking Monopoly.


Agree but if people play 'Monopoly' correctly (eg auctions if someone doesn't buy a property; no fucking money on Free Parking; trading all the time; learning the evils of capitalism) it isn't that bad. If you read and play by the rules.

But 'Settlers of Catan' is still the better trading game so play that instead.

Scary sweary Kern!

Author:  Hearthly [ Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:23 ]
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Kern wrote:
Agree but if people play 'Monopoly' correctly (eg auctions if someone doesn't buy a property; no fucking money on Free Parking; trading all the time; learning the evils of capitalism) it isn't that bad. If you read and play by the rules.

But 'Settlers of Catan' is still the better trading game so play that instead.


Sorry for continuing 'asides' (mods please split if you want to) but we have played Monopoly once before on one of these nights, it was another 'themed' one (Lord Of The Rings, maybe?) - and we did play some sort of extended and quite brutal ruleset.

Basic stuff like everything going up for auction on a 'no sale' was in place, but there was also all sorts of bartering and trade agreements going on, some of which I'm not even sure is allowed, like 'if you land on my properties you don't have to pay anything but I want Vine Street off you in return', we were kind of playing neoliberal Monopoly. One guy managed to negotiate himself Park Lane and Mayfair with hotels on (much to the protests of a couple of us) following some very tense negotiations, and then everyone managed to completely miss them for about three circuits of the board.

I can't even remember how it all finished as later on the host produced a bottle of some twenty year old brandy that was allegedly worth a lot of cash, I'm not sure it was afforded the respect it was deserved.

Author:  Dr Lave [ Sat Oct 15, 2016 16:21 ]
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I've got a PSVR.

I'm not exaggerating when I say that its the best gaming experience of my life. And worth every penny.

It's unlike anything. If PSVR sinks without a trace, then I went down with the best fucking ship ever made.

It's a theme park in your house.

Some people get motion sick, totally. But thats because THERE IS A THEMEPARK IN THEIR FUCKING HOUSE.

Batman is a fucking revelation. 1.5hr experiences like that for £16 a pop will be bought without hesitation.

If ten year old me knew that I had a fucking holodeck...

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Sat Oct 15, 2016 16:25 ]
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I'd decided to get one, but the huge amount of rave reviews since launch has meant that any remaining store stock got snapped up.
If anyone spots one online or in stock near Birmingham, let me know.

Author:  Dr Lave [ Sat Oct 15, 2016 16:30 ]
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Totally worth trying it before you buy - if at all possible.

Some people just can't get on it with it seems. They'll become the digital have nots I guess...

That and go slow. My wife first go was Driveclub, and felt ill. But she loved The Heist.

This review sums up my experiences with Rez.

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Sat Oct 15, 2016 18:00 ]
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That is a concern, but while stock is very low I'd be prepared to take a risk then resell immediately if I didn't get on with it.
They have bought one at Arcade Club in Bury so I might use that as an excuse to take a drive up there soon.

Author:  MaliA [ Sat Oct 15, 2016 18:28 ]
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
That is a concern, but while stock is very low I'd be prepared to take a risk then resell immediately if I didn't get on with it.
They have bought one at Arcade Club in Bury so I might use that as an excuse to take a drive up there soon.


Lmk and I will try and get a pass out to join you.

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Sat Oct 15, 2016 18:41 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
That is a concern, but while stock is very low I'd be prepared to take a risk then resell immediately if I didn't get on with it.
They have bought one at Arcade Club in Bury so I might use that as an excuse to take a drive up there soon.


Lmk and I will try and get a pass out to join you.


Fortnight's time any good to you?
They're open in the daytime on both days now.

Author:  DavPaz [ Mon Oct 17, 2016 13:37 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
Do the move controllers track orientation like the Vive ones? If not, then that's a huge barrier to immersion. How many times did people in the Vive go "Hey, look, there's the controllers, right there!"?

I now know the answer to this question.

Yes. Yes it does.

Author:  Hearthly [ Mon Oct 17, 2016 13:49 ]
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My chum now has his PS4 technohat despite it being sold out everywhere, as one came up for sale over the weekend on a local buy and sell classifieds forum.

The chap he bought it off suffered terrible nausea almost immediately and after trying it on and off for a day decided it had to go, hence my chum snapped it up.

He reports that it is very impressive although in one of the games he did a funny sort of jump thing (in the game world, not across his living room) which left him feeling sick so he had to take the headset off and give it a rest for a couple of hours, but he's been OK since.

I'll pop round after work one day this week to take a look.

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Oct 17, 2016 13:55 ]
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When I played retconned games for my Rift like Mirror's Edge, everything was great until the game took over where you were looking (like on the first level of ME, when Faith hears the other runner shouting at her and looks over).

When the game turns your character's head but you don't turn your own oh holy fuck does that get you wobbly fast.

Author:  myp [ Mon Oct 17, 2016 13:56 ]
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Dr Lave wrote:
I've got a PSVR.

I'm not exaggerating when I say that its the best gaming experience of my life. And worth every penny.

It's unlike anything. If PSVR sinks without a trace, then I went down with the best fucking ship ever made.

It's a theme park in your house.

Some people get motion sick, totally. But thats because THERE IS A THEMEPARK IN THEIR FUCKING HOUSE.

Batman is a fucking revelation. 1.5hr experiences like that for £16 a pop will be bought without hesitation.

If ten year old me knew that I had a fucking holodeck...

Welcome to the VR club!

Author:  DavPaz [ Mon Oct 17, 2016 14:01 ]
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Grim... wrote:
When I played retconned games for my Rift like Mirror's Edge, everything was great until the game took over where you were looking (like on the first level of ME, when Faith hears the other runner shouting at her and looks over).

When the game turns your character's head but you don't turn your own oh holy fuck does that get you wobbly fast.

Yeah. The inversions in the roller coaster sim I tried were awful. Your stomach clenches in anticipation, but it never comes. Stupid lizard brain

Author:  Curiosity [ Mon Oct 17, 2016 14:01 ]
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Hnghhhhhh.

After really enjoying the Vive at the Cottage, I am tempted by this.

Still probably a bit expensive for now, given the need to buy the camera too, and then probably the Move stick things.

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Mon Oct 17, 2016 14:02 ]
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It's in stock at Currys nwo

Author:  JBR [ Mon Oct 17, 2016 14:24 ]
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Currys have a New World Order?

Author:  myp [ Mon Oct 17, 2016 14:28 ]
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JBR wrote:
Currys have a New World Order?

The saag aloominati

Author:  Curiosity [ Mon Oct 17, 2016 14:28 ]
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
It's in stock at Currys nwo


Headset only shows Scott Hall and Kevin Nash.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Mon Oct 17, 2016 14:34 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
Yeah. The inversions in the roller coaster sim I tried were awful. Your stomach clenches in anticipation, but it never comes. Stupid lizard brain

You didn't have any problems at t'cottage though?
I think the only issue anyone had was Jacket after playing spell fighter vr. Which I had prefaced with "this is why there won't be any traditional fpses. You may feel ill."

Although I suspect fpses could be adapted to work in VR.

Author:  DavPaz [ Mon Oct 17, 2016 14:36 ]
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No inversions at the cottage.

Author:  KovacsC [ Mon Oct 17, 2016 14:38 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
No inversions at the cottage.

Can be arranged next year!!

Author:  myp [ Mon Oct 17, 2016 14:39 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
Although I suspect fpses could be adapted to work in VR.

Something like Damaged Core works really well because it works within the limitations of VR rather than trying to shoehorn it into a standard-style game.


Author:  KovacsC [ Mon Oct 17, 2016 14:56 ]
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I suppose there will be a plethora of VR only games, like there was for the Kinnect.

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Oct 18, 2016 0:28 ]
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Curiosity wrote:
Still probably a bit expensive for now

I think I'm going to get one at Christmas, if Tesco do their "clubcard vouchers are worth double on electronics" thing again.

Author:  myp [ Tue Oct 18, 2016 0:29 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
Still probably a bit expensive for now

I think I'm going to get one at Christmas, if Tesco do their "clubcard vouchers are worth double on electronics" thing again.

I thought you had a Rift? Or did you cancel your preorder?

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Oct 18, 2016 1:17 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
Still probably a bit expensive for now

I think I'm going to get one at Christmas, if Tesco do their "clubcard vouchers are worth double on electronics" thing again.

I thought you had a Rift? Or did you cancel your preorder?

I had a DK2, pre-ordered a CV1 and was told I'd be waiting until 2034, or something, so I fucked it off.

Author:  myp [ Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:09 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
Still probably a bit expensive for now

I think I'm going to get one at Christmas, if Tesco do their "clubcard vouchers are worth double on electronics" thing again.

I thought you had a Rift? Or did you cancel your preorder?

I had a DK2, pre-ordered a CV1 and was told I'd be waiting until 2034, or something, so I fucked it off.

Yeah I know you had a DK2. I never knew you cancelled your CV1 preorder, but that makes sense as I couldn't find you to add you to my friends list.

Author:  myp [ Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:10 ]
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PS - I took receipt of a Thrustmaster T-Flight Hotas X yesterday (£26 barely used!). It ramps up the immersion factor in Elite Dangerous by roughly a billionty percent.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:15 ]
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Aye. Although much of my time seems to be spent changing control schemes rather than playing.

Author:  myp [ Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:17 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
Aye. Although much of my time seems to be spent changing control schemes rather than playing.

I've just left it on default and blasted through the first training mission. Seems ok so far.

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:26 ]
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Get voice attack and ready to have your mind fucking blown.

"Stop music! Power to shields! Emergency jump!"

Author:  myp [ Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:30 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Get voice attack and ready to have your mind fucking blown.

"Stop music! Power to shields! Emergency jump!"

People use Voice Attack for iRacing too so I might have to check it out. :)

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:35 ]
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For some reason, talking to car strikes me as odd compared to talking to a spaceship, even though I actually own a car that you can use voice commands with.

Author:  MaliA [ Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:39 ]
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Grim... wrote:
For some reason, talking to car strikes me as odd compared to talking to a spaceship, even though I actually own a car that you can use voice commands with.


So do I.

"start, you bastard!"

Author:  TheVision [ Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:40 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Grim... wrote:
For some reason, talking to car strikes me as odd compared to talking to a spaceship, even though I actually own a car that you can use voice commands with.


So do I.

"start, you bastard!"


Actual lol! Good work.

Author:  myp [ Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:48 ]
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Grim... wrote:
For some reason, talking to car strikes me as odd compared to talking to a spaceship, even though I actually own a car that you can use voice commands with.

Pretend you're talking to your race engineer: "2 gallons of fuel, four tyres!"

Author:  MaliA [ Tue Oct 18, 2016 9:53 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
Grim... wrote:
For some reason, talking to car strikes me as odd compared to talking to a spaceship, even though I actually own a car that you can use voice commands with.

Pretend you're talking to your race engineer: "2 gallons of fuel, four tyres!"


"i'm gonna give you an engine low to the ground... extra thick oil pan to cut the wind from underneath you. It'll give you thirty or forty more horsepower. I'm gonna give you a fuel line that'll hold an extra gallon of gas. I'm gonna shave half an inch off you and shape you like a bullet. I'll get you primed, painted and weighed, and you'll be ready to go out on that racetrack. Hear me? You're gonna be perfect"

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Oct 18, 2016 10:00 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Grim... wrote:
For some reason, talking to car strikes me as odd compared to talking to a spaceship, even though I actually own a car that you can use voice commands with.


So do I.

"start, you bastard!"

http://www.nulon.com.au/products/aeroso ... ne_Starter

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 20:05 ]
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I just ordered a Daydream, Google's VR headset.

Author:  DavPaz [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 20:37 ]
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Are they making you pay for it?

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 20:50 ]
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Yup.

Author:  DavPaz [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 21:23 ]
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I bet you have to pay the tax, as well. ;)

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