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Author:  Mr Dave [ Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:23 ]
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If ind the 2d version a bit hard due to difficulties figuring out how distant the peple are and therefore where to shoot. For obvious reasons, this is not a problem in vr, thanfully.
Swings and roundabouts though - throwing things accurately in vr is... tricky.

Author:  markg [ Sat Oct 28, 2017 10:56 ]
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I got one of these a couple of days ago and whilst I'm really impressed I tried playing Dirt Rally last night. OMFG I had to rip off the headset after about half a stage and immediately retire to bed. It powerfully fucked me up. I guess it'll just take time to get used to it. What are some good games that are the least vom-inducing?

Author:  DavPaz [ Sat Oct 28, 2017 11:12 ]
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I've personally found that anything that takes control of movement away from the user causes nausea. Super hot VR was superb. Similarly Gorn, but these were both on Dave's Vive.

Author:  Bamba [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 13:55 ]
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There's a new demo collection for the PSVR just been released:

https://store.playstation.com/#!/en-gb/ ... MODISC0002

There's some stuff in there was on the previous one but also new additions in the shape of Moss, Star Child, The Persistence, Tiny Trax, Dino Frontier, Fantastic Contraption and Raw Data

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 13:59 ]
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Noice.

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 14:08 ]
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Ta. Will get that tonight.

Author:  markg [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 14:15 ]
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Cool, be checking those out later.

Personally I'm quite excited for Ultrawings:



I'd been unreasonably hoping that they might do something like Sky Odyssey for PSVR but this will have to do, it has a bit of a Pilot Wings vibe.

Definitely got my sea legs with the VR thing, at least nothing now seems to make me ill like it did at first.

Played this months freebies last night too, Until Dawn is very straightforward and lots of fun. Bound I just found to be irritating. I think it's mostly the way the character prances around like a tit everywhere, always walks with her arms out like she's doing fucking ballet practice. I get that it's sort of the point and it's meant to be beautiful and stuff, but it's not, it's just stupid and annoying :(

Author:  Bamba [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 15:38 ]
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markg wrote:
Bound I just found to be irritating. I think it's mostly the way the character prances around like a tit everywhere, always walks with her arms out like she's doing fucking ballet practice. I get that it's sort of the point and it's meant to be beautiful and stuff, but it's not, it's just stupid and annoying :(


I played the demo and adored it. I wasn't interested in it at all until it popped up as a VR demo and then it went firmly onto The List because it looked so incredible. I'm still not convinced it'll hold my attention in terms of gameplay because the demo gives very little away in that regard, but as a VR spectacle it's beautiful and I'm absolutely all over that shit.

Author:  Bamba [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 15:49 ]
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Also VR related: play GNOG as it's glorious. Further write up once I've actually completed it.

Author:  Satsuma [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 16:00 ]
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Bamba wrote:
markg wrote:
Bound I just found to be irritating. I think it's mostly the way the character prances around like a tit everywhere, always walks with her arms out like she's doing fucking ballet practice. I get that it's sort of the point and it's meant to be beautiful and stuff, but it's not, it's just stupid and annoying :(


I played the demo and adored it. I wasn't interested in it at all until it popped up as a VR demo and then it went firmly onto The List because it looked so incredible. I'm still not convinced it'll hold my attention in terms of gameplay because the demo gives very little away in that regard, but as a VR spectacle it's beautiful and I'm absolutely all over that shit.


It’s a spectacle on just a normal 2D telly. The backgrounds looks amazing as they bubble and pulse.

I played a bit yesterday and... got bored prancing about like a tit with no challenge. My interest in walking simulators and the like (this being the latter I imagine) has grown thin in recent times. I can appreciate something pretty but for a full length game or even something that you have to play for a few hours I’m going to need more of a challenge than pushing forward.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 16:08 ]
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Bamba wrote:
Also VR related: play GNOG as it's glorious. Further write up once I've actually completed it.

Yeah, it's great.

Author:  Bamba [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 16:48 ]
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Satsuma wrote:
I played a bit yesterday and... got bored prancing about like a tit with no challenge. My interest in walking simulators and the like (this being the latter I imagine) has grown thin in recent times. I can appreciate something pretty but for a full length game or even something that you have to play for a few hours I’m going to need more of a challenge than pushing forward.


Apparently it's only a couple of hours long anyway and I suspect I have more tolerance than you for this sort of thing so I'm hopeful I'll enjoy it for it's entire length.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 17:02 ]
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Latest adventures in "games that would be meh in 2d are really cool in 3d": Farpoint, which is £55 with the Aim Controller now. I'm up to the first boss, a giant spider the size of a house. And I really do mean "the size of a house" because VR really makes you feel scale in a way that 2d gaming cannot.

Really like the Aim Controller, too. Farpoint is a moderately proper FPS and the Aim Controller has proper FPS controls -- I've pulled off circle strafing in it.

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 17:24 ]
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Are you clicky or smooth? I'm "small clicky".

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 17:25 ]
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Big Clicky now, with a speed of 8 or so, for faster turns. Smooth made me feel funny, although I didn't try it for very long so perhaps I could adjust.

Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 17:27 ]
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markg wrote:
Cool, be checking those out later.

Personally I'm quite excited for Ultrawings:



I'd been unreasonably hoping that they might do something like Sky Odyssey for PSVR but this will have to do, it has a bit of a Pilot Wings vibe.

Definitely got my sea legs with the VR thing, at least nothing now seems to make me ill like it did at first.

Played this months freebies last night too, Until Dawn is very straightforward and lots of fun. Bound I just found to be irritating. I think it's mostly the way the character prances around like a tit everywhere, always walks with her arms out like she's doing fucking ballet practice. I get that it's sort of the point and it's meant to be beautiful and stuff, but it's not, it's just stupid and annoying :(

God, that looks good.

Author:  Cras [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 17:33 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Are you clicky or smooth? I'm "small clicky".


Title

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 17:40 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Big Clicky now, with a speed of 8 or so, for faster turns. Smooth made me feel funny, although I didn't try it for very long so perhaps I could adjust.

Yeah, it made me feel funny too. After playing co-op with you small clicky was starting to make me feel weird, but that's probably because I was turning all the time as SHIT BE HECTIC.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 17:42 ]
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Yeah, returning to the early main game felt really staid and controlled after those levels we played! I'm well up for playing more BTW.

Author:  Bamba [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 17:51 ]
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I heard awesome things about Farpoint with it's controller but there's a mental hurdle there in buying a bit of plastic that might well only get used for a single game.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 17:53 ]
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Arizona Sunshine and Doom VFR both support it and boom, that was enough for me. (I have low thresholds for tat mind.)

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 17:54 ]
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Especially as Arizona Sunshine has four player support in horde mode. Two player co-op Farpoint with Grim... was really cool. It's that damnable "everything is 500% more engaging in VR" factor at work.

Author:  Cras [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 18:00 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Especially as Arizona Sunshine has four player support in horde mode. Two player co-op Farpoint with Grim... was really cool. It's that damnable "everything is 500% more engaging in VR" factor at work.


Also 500% more engaging in co-op. And they're multiplicative factors.

Author:  myp [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 18:03 ]
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I can't believe I spent £40 on Star Trek and none of you fuckers played it with me

Author:  markg [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 18:09 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Latest adventures in "games that would be meh in 2d are really cool in 3d": Farpoint, which is £55 with the Aim Controller now. I'm up to the first boss, a giant spider the size of a house. And I really do mean "the size of a house" because VR really makes you feel scale in a way that 2d gaming cannot.

Really like the Aim Controller, too. Farpoint is a moderately proper FPS and the Aim Controller has proper FPS controls -- I've pulled off circle strafing in it.

Where is it £55?

Author:  Cras [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 18:25 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
I can't believe I spent £40 on Star Trek and none of you fuckers played it with me


We tried, right? But it didn't work?

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 18:27 ]
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markg wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Latest adventures in "games that would be meh in 2d are really cool in 3d": Farpoint, which is £55 with the Aim Controller now. I'm up to the first boss, a giant spider the size of a house. And I really do mean "the size of a house" because VR really makes you feel scale in a way that 2d gaming cannot.

Really like the Aim Controller, too. Farpoint is a moderately proper FPS and the Aim Controller has proper FPS controls -- I've pulled off circle strafing in it.

Where is it £55?

Oh, the Amazon price has gone back up.

Very have it: http://www.very.co.uk/playstation-4-far ... 169554.prd

Author:  Satsuma [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 18:47 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
I can't believe I spent £40 on Star Trek and none of you fuckers played it with me


FORTY POUNDS.

Author:  myp [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 19:10 ]
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Cras wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
I can't believe I spent £40 on Star Trek and none of you fuckers played it with me


We tried, right? But it didn't work?

Nah it was logistical issues I think. I stepped away and didn't get the invites. Anyway it was so long ago I can't remember.

Author:  myp [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 19:11 ]
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Satsuma wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
I can't believe I spent £40 on Star Trek and none of you fuckers played it with me


FORTY POUNDS.

Imagine spending a ludicrous amount of money on a game and then no cunt will play it with you.

Author:  Satsuma [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 19:33 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
Satsuma wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
I can't believe I spent £40 on Star Trek and none of you fuckers played it with me


FORTY POUNDS.

Imagine spending a ludicrous amount of money on a game and then no cunt will play it with you.


Dying Light.
Serious Sam.
etc

Author:  TheVision [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 19:55 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
I can't believe I spent £40 on Star Trek and none of you fuckers played it with me


Think yourself lucky. I bought an Xbox One.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 19:57 ]
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Cras wrote:
Also 500% more engaging in co-op. And they're multiplicative factors.

Yes. Yes.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 19:57 ]
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"Siri, show me a self-pwn that is visible from space."
TheVision wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
I can't believe I spent £40 on Star Trek and none of you fuckers played it with me


Think yourself lucky. I bought an Xbox One.

Author:  Bamba [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 21:13 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Arizona Sunshine and Doom VFR both support it and boom, that was enough for me. (I have low thresholds for tat mind.)


I didn't realise that about Doom, that might actually help it be even vaguely playable as I'm currently far beyond sceptical that they'll be able to translate it to vr.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 21:26 ]
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We'll know soon enough, it's out in a few weeks.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 22:43 ]
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Satsuma wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Satsuma wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
I can't believe I spent £40 on Star Trek and none of you fuckers played it with me


FORTY POUNDS.

Imagine spending a ludicrous amount of money on a game and then no cunt will play it with you.


Dying Light.
Serious Sam.
etc

Monster hunter III

Author:  Grim... [ Sat Nov 11, 2017 14:19 ]
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Cheap VR stuff for Black Friday: https://www.polygon.com/2017/11/10/1663 ... s-ps4-psvr

Author:  Bamba [ Sat Nov 11, 2017 14:31 ]
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Grim... wrote:


If you live in America.

Author:  Grim... [ Sat Nov 11, 2017 14:48 ]
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Normally translates across the pond, though.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Sat Nov 11, 2017 15:55 ]
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Finally completed SuperHot VR (I completed it in 2d a while back.) The final few levels are pretty punishing. What a dazzlingly amazing game though. Probably my favourite VR game yet.

Author:  DavPaz [ Sat Nov 11, 2017 16:44 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Finally completed SuperHot VR (I completed it in 2d a while back.) The final few levels are pretty punishing. What a dazzlingly amazing game though. Probably my favourite VR game yet.

I had a brief go on Dave's Vive. I agree. Probably my favourite VR game so far

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 18:23 ]
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Played another session of Farpoint co-op with Grim... this weekend.

Farpoint may be my canonical "pretty meh game transformed into greatness by VR." It would be dull dull dull in 2d: it has only a handful of enemies and guns, it appears to have only two environments (reddish-brown rocky sand, and brownish-red sandy rocks), and it's too bloody difficult (on Easy, Grim... and I have reached the end of the small co-op missions only twice. We've died 20+ times. And I'm thoroughly stuck on the first boss in the single player.)

And yet with the Aim Controller and PSVR, it's pretty magical, and then it's even better in co-op (of course.) I totally lost track of time when we were playing -- I was astonished when Grim... said it had been almost two hours, and only then noticed my aching back because I'd been holding myself tense for most of that time. It's a proper shooter, once you turn on the advance controls: you can do full FPS movement on top of the lightgun-like Aim controller for actually firing. I was pulling off circle strafing. No nausea for me, although I do have flick-scrolling instead of smooth turning.

Oh, and the best bit: the guns all have holographic sights but the VR environment projects them in such a way as you have to close one eye to see down them...! The second best bit: you swap weapons (you can only carry two) by moving the gun up to your shoulder and back again, miming out drawing a rifle from an over-shoulder back holster. These little visceral touches are amazing.

Has a good shotgun, too. Pretty meaty. I'd rate it 3.5 Dooms out of 5.

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 19:38 ]
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I'm normally fine with the nausea but at some point my gun's calibration went a bit screwy meaning it was pointing about 20 degrees to the left all the time, even though my hands (and eyes) disagreed. In single player it doesn't matter because you pause and sort it out, but we were on the final area of multiplayer so we couldn't pause and I was fucked if I was giving up.

FUCKING VOM CITY

Author:  Mr Dave [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 19:51 ]
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Grim... wrote:
I'm normally fine with the nausea but at some point my gun's calibration went a bit screwy meaning it was pointing about 20 degrees to the left all the time, even though my hands (and eyes) disagreed. In single player it doesn't matter because you pause and sort it out, but we were on the final area of multiplayer so we couldn't pause and I was fucked if I was giving up.


Is that a common thing with PSVR? Sounds more like what you got with the Wii that anything vaguely modern.

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 23:05 ]
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It's never happened to me before, but it think it happened to Gaywood.

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Mon Nov 13, 2017 23:12 ]
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I've had drift a few times in Farpoint, same as Grim... describes but not as bad. I have a hunch it happens when the camera loses sight of the controller and you also do fast movements; you get some dead reckoning errors it can't recover from without you doing a recalibration step. You can't pause the multiplayer game so it's a bit of an issue.

Author:  Satsuma [ Tue Nov 14, 2017 0:11 ]
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Doing ADS by closing an eye sounds like the kind of thing that would make my knickers moist.

Author:  romanista [ Mon Nov 20, 2017 19:50 ]
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Revatu bought one.. http://wosland.podgamer.com/this-is-why ... rible-now/

Author:  myp [ Mon Nov 20, 2017 19:59 ]
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romanista wrote:

Oh, he's whingeing about something. There's a surprise

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