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| Author: | DavPaz [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:51 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
Lonewolves wrote: Grim... wrote: Lonewolves wrote: Tbh as long as my CV1 works forever with iRacing I sort of don't give a shit if it goes mainstream or not. Whatever, hipster. You're desperately hoping it doesn't. Yes, I'm a technology hipster with my Facebook-owned technohat and Windows PC. Ironically mainstream is our Myp 
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| Author: | myp [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 12:52 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
Irony is a dead scene |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 13:12 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
LewieP wrote: I think it is neat, but I am not going to be an early adopter for a piece of Sony hardware that I am unconvinced will get robust support into the future. This is why I cancelled my PSVR pre-order (although right now I regret it.) Hopefully support will continue, in which case I imagine I'll get one next year. Or I'll be run-over by a hype train and buy one anyway, that's possible.
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| Author: | myp [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 13:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
At least they're not bundling it with the PS4 Pro as a mandatory requirement, eh folks? |
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| Author: | TheVision [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 13:50 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
Lewis makes a good point. Apart from consoles, I can't think of anything that Sony has done in the gaming world that has had a massive uptake and been successful. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 14:01 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
Weren't they the first rumble pad? |
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| Author: | devilman [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 14:03 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
Grim... wrote: Weren't they the first rumble pad? N64 apparently (although not built in, admittedly) |
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| Author: | myp [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 14:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
Dual analogue thumbsticks, surely? |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 14:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
Although relatedly, dual analogue sticks Edit: fucking Myp |
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| Author: | TheVision [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 14:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
I'll give you the dual analogue sticks. Good point. |
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| Author: | myp [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 14:23 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
TheVision wrote: I'll give you the dual analogue sticks. Good point. Microsoft popularised online console gaming so that's 1-1 I guess. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 14:50 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
Lonewolves wrote: TheVision wrote: I'll give you the dual analogue sticks. Good point. Microsoft popularised online console gaming so that's 1-1 I guess. And cheevos, and wireless pads, and DLC, and HD, and surround sound, and personal playlists. SUBS PLEASE CHECK |
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| Author: | myp [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 14:53 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
Grim... wrote: Lonewolves wrote: TheVision wrote: I'll give you the dual analogue sticks. Good point. Microsoft popularised online console gaming so that's 1-1 I guess. And cheevos, and wireless pads, and DLC, and HD, and surround sound, and personal playlists. SUBS PLEASE CHECK Not all of those are good. What about dashboard ads and stupid points-based currency systems too? 
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| Author: | Grim... [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 14:53 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
Which aren't good? I could perhaps be persuaded about HD being bad. |
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| Author: | TheVision [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 14:54 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
Grim... wrote: wireless pads SUBS PLEASE CHECK The Wavebird on the Gamecube came before this and some would argue, was quite popular but it doesn't matter. When one company innovates, another imitates. |
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| Author: | TheVision [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 14:55 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
Grim... wrote: Which aren't good? I could perhaps be persuaded about HD being bad. Really? How come? |
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| Author: | myp [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 14:58 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
Grim... wrote: Which aren't good? I could perhaps be persuaded about HD being bad. DLC. Let's chop up games piecemeal and charge extra for them! |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 15:00 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
Lonewolves wrote: Grim... wrote: Which aren't good? I could perhaps be persuaded about HD being bad. DLC. Let's chop up games piecemeal and charge extra for them! I... I just can't even... Of all the people to think DLC was bad, I didn't think you'd be one of them. DLC isn't inherently bad. Companies may do bad things with it, but that doesn't mean it can't be good. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 15:02 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
TheVision wrote: Grim... wrote: Which aren't good? I could perhaps be persuaded about HD being bad. Really? How come? It took graphics - and arguable consoles - in a direction that concentrated muscle power on the number of pixels on the screen rather than what those pixels were doing. In most cases details are important to how things look, not resolution. After all, what looks more realistic - a super-4K PC game or a DVD? |
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| Author: | TheVision [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 15:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
Grim... wrote: TheVision wrote: Grim... wrote: Which aren't good? I could perhaps be persuaded about HD being bad. Really? How come? It took graphics - and arguable consoles - in a direction that concentrated muscle power on the number of pixels on the screen rather than what those pixels were doing. In most cases details are important to how things look, not resolution. After all, what looks more realistic - a super-4K PC game or a DVD? Good point, well made. |
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| Author: | myp [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 15:07 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
Grim... wrote: Lonewolves wrote: Grim... wrote: Which aren't good? I could perhaps be persuaded about HD being bad. DLC. Let's chop up games piecemeal and charge extra for them! I... I just can't even... Of all the people to think DLC was bad, I didn't think you'd be one of them. DLC isn't inherently bad. Companies may do bad things with it, but that doesn't mean it can't be good. HD isn't inherently bad either. And anyway the first true HD console is the PS4, of course. 
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| Author: | myp [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 15:08 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
Anyway, before the 360 we had DLC, it was just called expansion packs and came on discs. |
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| Author: | Dr Zoidberg [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 15:12 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
DavPaz wrote: fucking Myp Title of someone's sex tape |
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| Author: | devilman [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 15:25 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
TheVision wrote: Grim... wrote: wireless pads SUBS PLEASE CHECK The Wavebird on the Gamecube came before this and some would argue, was quite popular but it doesn't matter. When one company innovates, another imitates. There were a few different wireless pads for the Mega Drive too. The ones I had were unofficial, but there were these too - Attachment: genesis-wireless-controller-x4.jpg
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| Author: | KovacsC [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 15:39 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
Grim... wrote: TheVision wrote: Grim... wrote: Which aren't good? I could perhaps be persuaded about HD being bad. Really? How come? It took graphics - and arguable consoles - in a direction that concentrated muscle power on the number of pixels on the screen rather than what those pixels were doing. In most cases details are important to how things look, not resolution. After all, what looks more realistic - a super-4K PC game or a DVD? I agree, I loved that robo office game on the techno hat, that was not HD. (i could be wrong, it has been known) |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 15:45 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
It's definitely HD in resolution terms, but would still be playable at SD. But I don't think that's the point |
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| Author: | TheVision [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 15:58 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
devilman wrote: TheVision wrote: Grim... wrote: wireless pads SUBS PLEASE CHECK The Wavebird on the Gamecube came before this and some would argue, was quite popular but it doesn't matter. When one company innovates, another imitates. There were a few different wireless pads for the Mega Drive too. The ones I had were unofficial, but there were these too - Attachment: genesis-wireless-controller-x4.jpg The Atari had wireless joysticks too but like the Megadrive pads, they weren't exactly popular.... Still cool though! |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 16:10 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
Apparently if you plug the PSVR into any HDMI source (ie. XBone or PC) it goes into cinema mode. Release the hackers! |
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| Author: | TheJacket [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 16:16 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
Sony did use the PS4 to push the Blu-Ray format, not a first for the format, but the decision that won the format war (Vs HD-DVD) |
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| Author: | myp [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 16:18 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
TheJacket wrote: Sony did use the PS4 to push the Blu-Ray format, not a first for the format, but the decision that won the format war (Vs HD-DVD) I thought the decision that won the format war was all the publishers choosing Blu-ray? |
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| Author: | TheJacket [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 16:21 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
more down to the number of players that were out in the real world, PS4 being a "media hub" and millions sold, publishers picked the format they could make money out of.... |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 16:23 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
You mean PS3, right? HD-DVD was long gone before the PS4 came along. |
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| Author: | TheJacket [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 16:28 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
i DO mean the PS3 |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 16:40 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
I often wonder how that particular format war would have gone if the 360 had had the HD-DVD drive internally, right form the start. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 17:55 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
DavPaz wrote: I often wonder how that particular format war would have gone if the 360 had had the HD-DVD drive internally, right form the start. It would have meant the 360 wouldn't have enjoyed its large price advantage over the PS3, and I think that might have handed the generation to Sony. Microsoft were very much the underdogs at the time, and the $599 PS3 price point was a big part of why Sony failed to gain early traction. |
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| Author: | Kern [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 19:11 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
MaliA wrote: Aside - Mate, get a copy of Ticket to Ride, Colt Express, Cash and Guns , and Pandemic and take that along with a decent bottle of Port. Nobody retires early and you will have much more fun. Then thank me, later. Don't waste your life with fucking Monopoly. Agree but if people play 'Monopoly' correctly (eg auctions if someone doesn't buy a property; no fucking money on Free Parking; trading all the time; learning the evils of capitalism) it isn't that bad. If you read and play by the rules. But 'Settlers of Catan' is still the better trading game so play that instead. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 19:23 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
Kern wrote: MaliA wrote: Aside - Mate, get a copy of Ticket to Ride, Colt Express, Cash and Guns , and Pandemic and take that along with a decent bottle of Port. Nobody retires early and you will have much more fun. Then thank me, later. Don't waste your life with fucking Monopoly. Agree but if people play 'Monopoly' correctly (eg auctions if someone doesn't buy a property; no fucking money on Free Parking; trading all the time; learning the evils of capitalism) it isn't that bad. If you read and play by the rules. The 'Paying your rent"somehow"' rule is pretty good, too. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Fri Oct 14, 2016 21:26 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
Mali has played very different games of monopoly to me. |
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| Author: | Mimi [ Sat Oct 15, 2016 8:28 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
Kern wrote: MaliA wrote: Aside - Mate, get a copy of Ticket to Ride, Colt Express, Cash and Guns , and Pandemic and take that along with a decent bottle of Port. Nobody retires early and you will have much more fun. Then thank me, later. Don't waste your life with fucking Monopoly. Agree but if people play 'Monopoly' correctly (eg auctions if someone doesn't buy a property; no fucking money on Free Parking; trading all the time; learning the evils of capitalism) it isn't that bad. If you read and play by the rules. But 'Settlers of Catan' is still the better trading game so play that instead. Scary sweary Kern! |
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| Author: | Hearthly [ Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:23 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
Kern wrote: Agree but if people play 'Monopoly' correctly (eg auctions if someone doesn't buy a property; no fucking money on Free Parking; trading all the time; learning the evils of capitalism) it isn't that bad. If you read and play by the rules. But 'Settlers of Catan' is still the better trading game so play that instead. Sorry for continuing 'asides' (mods please split if you want to) but we have played Monopoly once before on one of these nights, it was another 'themed' one (Lord Of The Rings, maybe?) - and we did play some sort of extended and quite brutal ruleset. Basic stuff like everything going up for auction on a 'no sale' was in place, but there was also all sorts of bartering and trade agreements going on, some of which I'm not even sure is allowed, like 'if you land on my properties you don't have to pay anything but I want Vine Street off you in return', we were kind of playing neoliberal Monopoly. One guy managed to negotiate himself Park Lane and Mayfair with hotels on (much to the protests of a couple of us) following some very tense negotiations, and then everyone managed to completely miss them for about three circuits of the board. I can't even remember how it all finished as later on the host produced a bottle of some twenty year old brandy that was allegedly worth a lot of cash, I'm not sure it was afforded the respect it was deserved. |
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| Author: | Dr Lave [ Sat Oct 15, 2016 16:21 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
I've got a PSVR. I'm not exaggerating when I say that its the best gaming experience of my life. And worth every penny. It's unlike anything. If PSVR sinks without a trace, then I went down with the best fucking ship ever made. It's a theme park in your house. Some people get motion sick, totally. But thats because THERE IS A THEMEPARK IN THEIR FUCKING HOUSE. Batman is a fucking revelation. 1.5hr experiences like that for £16 a pop will be bought without hesitation. If ten year old me knew that I had a fucking holodeck... |
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| Author: | Dr Zoidberg [ Sat Oct 15, 2016 16:25 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
I'd decided to get one, but the huge amount of rave reviews since launch has meant that any remaining store stock got snapped up. If anyone spots one online or in stock near Birmingham, let me know. |
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| Author: | Dr Lave [ Sat Oct 15, 2016 16:30 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
Totally worth trying it before you buy - if at all possible. Some people just can't get on it with it seems. They'll become the digital have nots I guess... That and go slow. My wife first go was Driveclub, and felt ill. But she loved The Heist. This review sums up my experiences with Rez. |
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| Author: | Dr Zoidberg [ Sat Oct 15, 2016 18:00 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
That is a concern, but while stock is very low I'd be prepared to take a risk then resell immediately if I didn't get on with it. They have bought one at Arcade Club in Bury so I might use that as an excuse to take a drive up there soon. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Sat Oct 15, 2016 18:28 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
Dr Zoidberg wrote: That is a concern, but while stock is very low I'd be prepared to take a risk then resell immediately if I didn't get on with it. They have bought one at Arcade Club in Bury so I might use that as an excuse to take a drive up there soon. Lmk and I will try and get a pass out to join you. |
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| Author: | Dr Zoidberg [ Sat Oct 15, 2016 18:41 ] |
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MaliA wrote: Dr Zoidberg wrote: That is a concern, but while stock is very low I'd be prepared to take a risk then resell immediately if I didn't get on with it. They have bought one at Arcade Club in Bury so I might use that as an excuse to take a drive up there soon. Lmk and I will try and get a pass out to join you. Fortnight's time any good to you? They're open in the daytime on both days now. |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Mon Oct 17, 2016 13:37 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
DavPaz wrote: Do the move controllers track orientation like the Vive ones? If not, then that's a huge barrier to immersion. How many times did people in the Vive go "Hey, look, there's the controllers, right there!"? I now know the answer to this question. Yes. Yes it does. |
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| Author: | Hearthly [ Mon Oct 17, 2016 13:49 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
My chum now has his PS4 technohat despite it being sold out everywhere, as one came up for sale over the weekend on a local buy and sell classifieds forum. The chap he bought it off suffered terrible nausea almost immediately and after trying it on and off for a day decided it had to go, hence my chum snapped it up. He reports that it is very impressive although in one of the games he did a funny sort of jump thing (in the game world, not across his living room) which left him feeling sick so he had to take the headset off and give it a rest for a couple of hours, but he's been OK since. I'll pop round after work one day this week to take a look. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Mon Oct 17, 2016 13:55 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
When I played retconned games for my Rift like Mirror's Edge, everything was great until the game took over where you were looking (like on the first level of ME, when Faith hears the other runner shouting at her and looks over). When the game turns your character's head but you don't turn your own oh holy fuck does that get you wobbly fast. |
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| Author: | myp [ Mon Oct 17, 2016 13:56 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Techno hats - now available for PS4 |
Dr Lave wrote: I've got a PSVR. I'm not exaggerating when I say that its the best gaming experience of my life. And worth every penny. It's unlike anything. If PSVR sinks without a trace, then I went down with the best fucking ship ever made. It's a theme park in your house. Some people get motion sick, totally. But thats because THERE IS A THEMEPARK IN THEIR FUCKING HOUSE. Batman is a fucking revelation. 1.5hr experiences like that for £16 a pop will be bought without hesitation. If ten year old me knew that I had a fucking holodeck... Welcome to the VR club! |
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