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Actually, that's pertinent information for your question I hadn't considered: my non-Pro PS4 was the original version rather than the slim so I'm comparing the Pro to that. If the original model Ps4 bothered you then there's definitely more chance the Pro will I suppose.

Yes, indeed. It's something I already live with, and it's not the end of the world, but the whiny high-speed fans console designers favour (except the Xbox One) irritate me. I went so far as to upgrade both my 360s late in their life to the quietest "Jasper" chipset ones, which involves fun and games in Game as I demanded to examine the box to work out which version I was holding.

I own windlands for the vive.

Frankly, my main complaint with it is that it's just a bit boring.

I can't say I've noticed any noise from mine, at all. Obviously, the only point of reference I have is a non jasper (I think) 360, and it's virtually silent compared to that. I'll have a proper listen tonight if I get a chance to play.

I have the slim non pro and it is silent, except for the few times it runs the cd player up, eden then it is very quiet.

Mali will be pleased

You have fucking got to be joking ne

It's got a CD player

Player player player player player player player player

Nooooooo.

I have no ps4 at all, but other people I know say the pro is much quieter than... Amateur?

Seems like there might be significantly variable build quality going on?

@doccyg. I can confirm that my pro is as near as damn silent, apart from the occasional click or whir from the drive. No fan noise at all as far as I could tell, and this was with it sitting on top of the unit that holds the TV, not in a cupboard beneath.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/26/b ... ej508r6vSF

So PSVR has very possibly outsold Rift and Vive combined, in a much shorter space of time during which it was often out of stock. Pretty impressive for Sony.

Apparently there's a few more demos for VR games available if you make an account on the Hong Kong PSN store:

https://www.reddit.com/r/PSVR/comments/ ... the_demos/

It's certainly impressive, although given the difference in entry cost (and "pre-installed" market base) not entirely unsurprising.

And let's not forget that Microsoft claimed the original Kinect sold billions and billions of units and look at how that panned out.

Hopefully the Playstation techno hat will do better. Like every peripheral, it needs some killer software on it to attract the masses.

I still wish the Kinect had been bundled with the Bone. It's way better than the Playstation camera (I especially miss the physical tracking).

Yeah, because bundling it worked wonders with the Xbox One....

Seriously though, the voice integration on the Xbox One is top notch. Almost worth the price of the Kinect alone (I did only pay £30 for mine though so that helped)

Kinect *was* bundled with the XB1, for the first year or so.

It was more like six months. I shall rephrase:

I still wish the Kinect had been bundled with the Bone forever, because then people might have done some really cool stuff with it.

Probably not. It would have just meant the Bone suffered even poorer sales.

Stick to your guns, MS!

I have a Kinect but have rarely used it for games. There is one game which is ace though. It's called Fru.

It's basically a platformer but your shadow needs to make the platforms and block out obstacles for your character to pass through. I haven't described that very well but it's a novel use of the Kinect. The only one I can think of mind.

I regularly play OG Kinect games with the kids on the 360. Great fun.

Oh yeah, that reminds me. They're a bit young now but my kids have played Fruit Ninja on it. They're a bit small for the Kinect to recognise them but we got their in the end and they loved it.

That reminds me, I need to get Fruit Ninja VR on the Rift seeing as it's one of the greatest games of all time as voted by Beex members.

It is pretty good.

I wouldn't trust them, they rated Try Not To Fart as one of the very best games of all time.

Robo Recall is pretty damn gud.

Robo Recall is pretty damn gud.

I quite enjoyed Try Not To Fart. A VR version would be great.

And not out for PSVR so screw you buddy.

Yeah, but you get to *be* Batman.

Just noticed I double posted that. Not sure how though.

Platform exclusives are dangerous at this point so early in the lifecycle. RE7 is exclusive for a year, too.

I agree, but on the other hand Oculus/Facebook funded the development of Robo Recall almost entirely from what I can gather, so I can see why they insisted on it.

I'm quite concerned that the spat between Zenimax and Oculus is going to mean that when Fallout 4 VR is finished they'll lock it away from the Rift (as Google did with Google Earth)

I actually think long-term Oculus are in trouble. Valve are developing multiple headsets to use the Steam platform, Sony will have the console side sewn up. Oculus have their own store with pitiful sales and overpriced games and a relative handful of users.

On the other hand, Zuck has extremely deep pockets and appears to be personally (as well as commercially) invested in VR as a platform. If VR turns out to not be commercially successful (again), I could see Sony and Valve throwing in the towel but Facebook sticking by it.

Started playing I Expect You To Die last night and enjoyed it muchly. I could probably have hammered through more of it than the first two missions that I did, but after the first completion I spent time trying to discover and carry out the optional tasks which adds a decent amount of re-playability. I particularly like the fact that there are different ways to carry out some of the tasks. So, for instance, in the first mission . And there's a control panel on the second mission that I haven't even worked out the purpose off yet so there's obviously something else going on there as well. The only criticism I'd have is that the controls are a bit of a pain in the arse when you're manipulating objects at a distance and when under time pressure I still keep pressing the wrong buttons. I feel that could've been better implemented maybe using gesture controls to move things to towards/away from your character because the face buttons on the Move controllers are just shit, but possible that would bring it's own problems. Anyway, highly recommends based on what I've played so far and I look forward to seeing other people have a go at the puzzles even after I've completed it. Obviously, I Expect Them To Die.

On the downside, this is the first time I've used my VR setup since taking it to/from my mate's house at the weekend and I'm seeing some weird 'ghosting' going on that I don't think happened previously. So when I move my head it's as if the display isn't updating fast enough, or something. I'll have a check of all the various connections again this evening but it's a worry; has anyone else ever seen anything like that?

IEYTD really is great. I very much like that there are multiple ways to solve many of the puzzles

On a general technohat type note, I had a go on the Microsoft HoloLens the other day (spoiler alert: it's balls).

The company demoing it worked with companies like Network Rail to give their workders a HUD that let them see enhanced views on things like cabling in tunnels and whatnot. The actual demo app we got our hands on had you standing in a house with the walls etc mapped to the dimensions of the room we were standing in. A floating menu then let you toggle on/off various aspects of the structure so, for instance, you could toggle the floor off so you could see down to the pipework and electrics below.

The problem is that the actual field of view (might not be the correct term there) is a tiny little rectangle in the middle of your vision and the AR content isn't very vivid so the overall effect was of peering through a tiny little window into an really insubstantial ghost house. You got so little context from the tiny window you could see through that it was actually really difficult to work out what you were looking at most of the time. When watching people ahead of me in the queue get their shot the helper woman almost always had to actually point out the menu which left you wondering how they could miss this honking great thing floating right in front of them and it was only when I got into it that it all made sense. I'd heard from reading about it that the FOV was really small but I wasn't prepared for quite how shit it actually was.

Wow... That sounds nothing like what I've seen from all the press shots etc. I thought it looked good but I imagine like all Microsoft products, what they promise and what they deliver are two completely different things.

Still, at least they've got a few years to get it working right. What could possibly go wrong?

In fairness, I've got no idea how much of that is a genuine hardware limitation and how much is the actual app they were running. Maybe it's capable of a wider FOV and they'd limited it for some reason? It certainly occurred to me that they might've turned down the 'vividness' of the AR content in order to preserve battery life for the sake of the demo but I didn't think to ask at the time.

Arkham VR is coming to the other VR platforms at the end of the month: https://www.engadget.com/2017/04/03/bat ... -and-vive/

HTC knock some money off the Vive and launch a subscription service that lets you play a selection of games every month for a pretty low cost: https://www.engadget.com/2017/04/03/htc ... on-launch/

There's a sale on the PSN Store at the moment for most VR games.

EVE Valkyrie is down 54% to £25 - yoink.

I'm very tempted by Bound for £6.39...

Statik for the PSVR looks pretty cool and there's a demo available for it on the PS Store. Why in the fuck they won't just add these things to the normal Demos section of the store I really don't understand.

https://www.destructoid.com/review-statik-434134.phtml

Polybius has arrived on my PS4, but not had chance to play it yet. Looks great fun though

I played that demo this very evening and it was really good fun. You're dropped into a weird lab setup with a guy at a desk mumbling at you and your hands locked in this weird box thing. Pretty much every button, stick and trigger on the controller does something and you've got to figure out what it wants you to do and how to then accomplish that. The level in the demo is part experimentation and part lateral thinking and I thoroughly enjoyed it so it goes on The List.