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head or heads
A single head 63%  63%  [ 12 ]
Zaphod 36%  36%  [ 7 ]
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 Post subject: heads, shoulders
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 20:47 
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My daughter has a book ( 'Action rhymes' by Clare Beaton). Now this book, as you might expect, has rhymes with actions associated with them, one of which is the poem/song ' head, shoulders, knees and toes'. However, this has it as 'heads and shoulders...'. So, dear forum plural or single, and or not? I say single as I only have one head and it is an 'action' poem and also mouth and noise are singular in the second verse, but I'm sure you'll agree this needs further discussion and there is little else going on at the moment.

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 Post subject: Re: heads, shoulders
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 20:50 
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Plural, as it's usually sung by a group who have multiple heads between them.


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 Post subject: Re: heads, shoulders
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 20:51 
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I have selected single, but have realised that I actually sing "heads"


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 Post subject: Re: heads, shoulders
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 20:52 
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If I were to submit a theory, which I'm about to, it started as head, shoulders but with three year olds not being all that great linguistically the end of head became conjoined with the start of shoulders and in time became accepted parlance.

Head(s) AND shoulders has no place in a civilised society. There should not be an and between the first two items in a list of four, unless you're a cretin who plans to add an and at every interval, as happens in the second verse.


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 Post subject: Re: heads, shoulders
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 20:53 
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
Plural, as it's usually sung by a group who have multiple heads between them.

Do they sing "noses" and "mouths" too?


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 Post subject: Re: heads, shoulders
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 20:53 
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Actually, Heads, shoulders would be contextually legitimate for Glenn Hoddle.


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 Post subject: Re: heads, shoulders
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 21:02 
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markg wrote:
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
Plural, as it's usually sung by a group who have multiple heads between them.

Do they sing "noses" and "mouths" too?

Good point. Change my vote.


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 Post subject: Re: heads, shoulders
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 21:06 
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singular, both in english and in dutch
actually the toe bit is singular too in the dutch version
I guess because you're only using one finger to point in the action
eyes and ears are plural as you use both hands

in case it amuses:
hoofd, schouders, knie en teen, knie en teen
hoofd, schouders, knie en teen, knie en teen
ogen, oren, puntje van je neus
hoofd, schouders, knie en teen, knie en teen


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 Post subject: Re: heads, shoulders
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 21:12 
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No prizes for guessing which one got my vote but

Heads (plural)
Shoulders (plural)
eyes (plural)
ears (plural)

but
Mouth (singular)
nose (singular)

Wikipedia has it as 'head' (singular) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head,_Sho ... s_and_Toes


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 Post subject: Re: heads, shoulders
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 21:17 
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What I say depends on whether I am at home singing it alone, or singing it in a group.


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 Post subject: Re: heads, shoulders
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 21:27 
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
markg wrote:
Dr Zoidberg wrote:
Plural, as it's usually sung by a group who have multiple heads between them.

Do they sing "noses" and "mouths" too?

Good point. Change my vote.


*narrows eyes* You like that, wouldn't you. You're everything that's wrong with modern voters.

Remain. Wait, what?

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 Post subject: Re: heads, shoulders
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 21:34 
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Clearly it's head. At least put some effort in to understand before voting. 'Heads' voters disgust me.

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 Post subject: Re: heads, shoulders
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<denies having made any claims about heads>


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 Post subject: Re: heads, shoulders
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 22:05 
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It's head.

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 Post subject: Re: heads, shoulders
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 22:08 
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LewieP wrote:
What I say depends on whether I am at home singing it alone, or singing it in a group.


I feel we've skipped past an important development that we need to discuss further...

On your own?

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 Post subject: Re: heads, shoulders
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flis wrote:
LewieP wrote:
What I say depends on whether I am at home singing it alone, or singing it in a group.


I feel we've skipped past an important development that we need to discuss further...

On your own?


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 Post subject: Re: heads, shoulders
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Cras wrote:
flis wrote:
LewieP wrote:
What I say depends on whether I am at home singing it alone, or singing it in a group.


I feel we've skipped past an important development that we need to discuss further...

On your own?


:DD


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 Post subject: Re: heads, shoulders
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 22:24 
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MaliA wrote:
Cras wrote:
flis wrote:
LewieP wrote:
What I say depends on whether I am at home singing it alone, or singing it in a group.


I feel we've skipped past an important development that we need to discuss further...

On your own?


:DD


Lolz

I do find myself singing this to myself sometimes!

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 Post subject: Re: heads, shoulders
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 23:18 
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I'd completely forgotten it existed.I probably haven't sung it since I was 6 or so.


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 Post subject: Re: heads, shoulders
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 0:36 
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ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
If I were to submit a theory, which I'm about to, it started as head, shoulders but with three year olds not being all that great linguistically the end of head became conjoined with the start of shoulders and in time became accepted parlance.


I was going to suggest similar. When I am singing (and I have a dreadful, awful singing voice yet the kids love me singing to them after bedtime stories) I also tend to let the words sort of flow into each other, particularly 'diamond in' from Twinkle Twinkle :insincere:

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 Post subject: Re: heads, shoulders
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:01 
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Heads, shoulders, knees and toes.

Because you sing it in a group.

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Grim... wrote:
Heads, shoulders, knees and toes.

Because you sing it in a group.

A group with more than one moth and nose? Unless human centipede.

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Mimi wrote:
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Heads, shoulders, knees and toes.

Because you sing it in a group.

A group with more than one moth and nose? Unless human centipede.

:shrug:

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 Post subject: Re: heads, shoulders
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 8:32 
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It's head, shoulders, knees and toes.

And eyes, and ears, and mouth, and nose.

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It just correlates to how many of those parts you have.

Not sure what people are finding so difficult about this. No wonder half of you couldn't work out that you were supposed to vote to stay in the EU.


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 Post subject: Re: heads, shoulders
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:09 
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markg wrote:
It just correlates to how many of those parts you have.

So the words are different in Norfolk?

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markg wrote:
It just correlates to how many of those parts you have.

Not sure what people are finding so difficult about this. No wonder half of you couldn't work out that you were supposed to vote to stay in the EU.

:DD

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 Post subject: Re: heads, shoulders
PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2016 19:51 
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I know thats not how the search works, but I am going to assume I am right.

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Isn't there a google thing where you can look at usage of ap phrase over time and compare our something?

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Bobbyaro wrote:
Isn't there a google thing where you can look at usage of ap phrase over time and compare our something?

I can't imagine how you'd find it if there were.

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Bobbyaro wrote:
Isn't there a google thing where you can look at usage of ap phrase over time and compare our something?


2009 was popular for some reason

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