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"I'm sorry I haven't a clue" is being recorded in Wolverhampton in October. I'm going to try to get tickets when they go on sale this morning but I'm not sure I'll get through. I imagine it'll be very popular.

Still, it's worth a go.


Awesome. I went to see a recording back in 1999. Would love to go to one again. Samantha is everything you think she is, and more.


I've been to two (*) , once in Oxford when Humph was still running it and once in Chichester with Jack Dee

They are great fun and you get a much longer show (they record extra to just throw out to cut it down for the show) I wish they would release the full recordings !

(*) I also saw the show in Portsmouth but that was their 'tour' so was not one recorded for the radio but it did mean that I heard Jeremy singing *live* and the whole audience got to join in with their kazoos


I've been to a few, (Manchester twice, Blackpool, Prestatyn, Harrogate, Buxton and maybe some others I've forgotten) but none since Humph kicked it. It's a great night, but long. Two shows recorded, each taking around 45 mins, refreshment break in between, so you're not getting out until around 11pm. I felt exhausted on every occasion, but it was well worth it.


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http://coding2learn.org/blog/2013/07/29/kids-cant-use-computers/

Kids Can't Use Computers

Might be a whale in the Thames for some, but some of this really hit home for me. I might sit down with the kids and show them some things.


I was a school/college IT tech for a while. That was basically every day of my life. :facepalm:

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I'm not sure why many people expected much else. There are people who drive hundreds of miles every day but couldn't ever change a set of brake pads. People who work at a laundrette but would never be able to fix the machines. Why are computers any different? Every field has levels of expertise and the general population rarely goes beyond "can use, don't understand, can't fix" in almost all of them.

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Yep, the standard of basic IT-literacy is pretty appalling at all ages, but there is this bizarre assumption that kids know it all.


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There is no way I'm going to attempt to turn him on.

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I'm not sure why many people expected much else. There are people who drive hundreds of miles every day but couldn't ever change a set of brake pads. People who work at a laundrette but would never be able to fix the machines. Why are computers any different? Every field has levels of expertise and the general population rarely goes beyond "can use, don't understand, can't fix" in almost all of them.


I think what I took from that piece is more that the expectation and reality are so different. The whole "kids know more than their parents!" thing.. when, as this guy said, clearly they don't. Obviously lack of computer literacy is not always such a bad thing though. It's kept me in employment for nearly 15 years. :DD

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I'm not sure why many people expected much else. There are people who drive hundreds of miles every day but couldn't ever change a set of brake pads. People who work at a laundrette but would never be able to fix the machines. Why are computers any different? Every field has levels of expertise and the general population rarely goes beyond "can use, don't understand, can't fix" in almost all of them.


I think what I took from that piece is more that the expectation and reality are so different. The whole "kids know more than their parents!" thing.. when, as this guy said, clearly they don't. Obviously lack of computer literacy is not always such a bad thing though. It's kept me in employment for nearly 15 years. :DD

Me too! Long may people not find the on switch! Ever more will people download malware! Viva 'broken' USB sticks! Hurrah for dodgy software! Three cheers for windows update glitches!


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You either die a Mali, or you live long enough to see Mali become an Afterthought.

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I'm not sure why many people expected much else. There are people who drive hundreds of miles every day but couldn't ever change a set of brake pads. People who work at a laundrette but would never be able to fix the machines. Why are computers any different? Every field has levels of expertise and the general population rarely goes beyond "can use, don't understand, can't fix" in almost all of them.


I probably could change a set of brake pads, if I had the right tools and a suitable place to undertake the task. But it's not something I would usually consider doing, partly because I'd be concerned about whether my vehicle was safe to drive if I'd done that myself. I do change a wheel if I get a flat tyre, but a lot of drivers these days just call the AA/RAC/Green Flag for this.

My dad used to try to fix anything that broke. His car, the washing machine, the TV (in the days when TVs were repaired by a local repair man, rather than just scrapping them and buying a new one, as happens these days), he'd have a go at anything, which was why our house had so many items held together with blobs of Araldite. The idea of plugging in a diagnostic tool to interrogate the on-board IT system in a car would have been totally alien to him.

When I worked in IT in the civil service, I used to write batch files for colleagues to ease certain repetitive tasks for them, was always opening a command prompt on their PCs to get some bit of information about files that they couldn't easily obtain from within Windows, etc. I have no idea about the file system on my iPad, or whether there's the equivalent of a command prompt on the thing.

I did a Btec in computing because the department paid for it, but never really felt I got anything useful from the programming/coding modules because there was no direct need for me to have those skills for my job, and I wasn't geeky enough to pursue it just for the fun of it.

The IT team used to dread November/December because of the number of calls we'd have from staff wanting to know what computer they should buy their kids for Christmas. They usually had this vague idea about what they wanted their kids to do with the things (usually 'homework') whereas we knew the kids just wanted to be able to play Pacman or whatever were that year's must-have games that were flooding the market. Apart from one guy who built games machines for himself and his friends, the rest of us weren't interested in that kind of machine and our experience was limited to the bog standard PCs we used at work, so we couldn't offer much advice, much to the annoyance of the staff, who assumed we were all 'computer experts' and knew everything there was to know about computers and computing.

I understand the concern that kids (and most of the population) 'can't use computers,' but neither can they diagnose their own ailments or select the appropriate herbs from the forest to treat themselves, as their ancient ancestors would have done. Our lives are much more complicated than they used to be, most of us don't live and work within an hour's walk of where we live and we don't have to wait six months for a bloke on a donkey passing through the village to tell us that there is/was a war in Syria...... wherever THAT is.

To be honest, I'm not sure where I'm going with this, other than to say we no longer have control of our own destiny, as we did when we lived a relatively parochial lifestyle. Some tit in a bank fiddles some deals and the repercussions are felt around the globe, so that millions of people's investments will no longer provide the pension they were promised and there's bugger all they can do about it. I don't call that progress


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I've been trying to keep clean for work through all the DIY. This morning the car decided he has other ideas.


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Yes, stupid auto correct.

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Hey, radio 2 is playing This Kiss by Faith Hill. Centriffigal!


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Yes, stupid auto correct.

Careful - Last time autocorrect did that, it ended up with cats being forbidden to have feet.

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Hey, radio 2 is playing This Kiss by Faith Hill. Centriffigal!

Centriffigle motion.

Here's a thing that made me smile this morning.


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Hey, radio 2 is playing This Kiss by Faith Hill. Centriffigal!

Centriffigle motion.

Here's a thing that made me smile this morning.


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Two theatre trips in the same week! Going to the Oxford Playhouse to see 'Observe the Sons of Ulster Marching Towards the Somme' by Frank McGuiness tonight. Looks very interesting, and for a change I've booked a seat in the stalls as I usually go for the circle.


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Hey, radio 2 is playing This Kiss by Faith Hill. Centriffigal!

Centriffigle motion.

Here's a thing that made me smile this morning.


"That's a nice open shirt"
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"Don't.."
"And I was goin to ask if they had it.."
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Oh come on this was brilliant

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He continued: “They need to stun the angry, unwashed, Make America Great Again swarm, desperately gripping their concealed-carry compensators and belting out a mini-erection inducing ‘mashed potato,’ hoping to impress their cousin.


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Yeah. I can see what he was trying to do, but in reality, what a ducking idiot.

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Yeah. I can see what he was trying to do, but in reality, what a ducking idiot.

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I was supposed to be in Bristol all day today for some training thing, but decided to sack it off and come into the office as I've got too much work on. The upshot is that this is the only day in literally weeks where I've had no meetings.I feel a bit bereft.

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I was supposed to be in Bristol all day today for some training thing, but decided to sack it off and come into the office as I've got too much work on. The upshot is that this is the only day in literally weeks where I've had no meetings.I feel a bit bereft.


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It's very rare I let something on t'internet annoy me but I am still bothered by Kirstie Allsopp's elitist anti-breakfast tweeting.

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It's very rare I let something on t'internet annoy me but I am still bothered by Kirstie Allsopp's elitist anti-breakfast tweeting.

example, please

edit: Never mind, I found it.

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It's very rare I let something on t'internet annoy me but I am still bothered by Kirstie Allsopp's elitist anti-breakfast tweeting.

Yeah, totally gross.

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https://twitter.com/KirstieMAllsopp/sta ... 7178617856


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Yeah. I don't know what exactly she's trying to do there - fat shame the guy? Diet shame? - but it's bizarre and ridiculous.

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Yeah. I don't know what exactly she's trying to do there - fat shame the guy? Diet shame? - but it's bizarre and ridiculous.


Bloke could have finished a night shift.

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Yeah. I don't know what exactly she's trying to do there - fat shame the guy? Diet shame? - but it's bizarre and ridiculous.

She's not exactly thin herself.

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Yeah. I don't know what exactly she's trying to do there - fat shame the guy? Diet shame? - but it's bizarre and ridiculous.


Bloke could have finished a night shift.


Yes or just have a busy day ahead of him and not have time for lunch, any number of reasons why people might have a (in her opinion) a big breakfast


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I understand everything except the coke and coffee combo. That's overkill. The rest... meh. Has she never seen a full-english, for feck's sake?


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I understand everything except the coke and coffee combo. That's overkill. The rest... meh. Has she never seen a full-english, for feck's sake?



When in Mexcio a few years ago in an all inclusive I noticed the waiter taking 2 shots of tequila on a tray through the breakfast room at 8am.

I watched where he took it and he gave it to a Mexican guy who must have been 70 or older, he had that for breakfast every day (with other food) :)


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Yeah. I don't know what exactly she's trying to do there - fat shame the guy? Diet shame? - but it's bizarre and ridiculous.


Bloke could have finished a night shift.


Yes or just have a busy day ahead of him and not have time for lunch, any number of reasons why people might have a (in her opinion) a big breakfast


It's not even that big a meal. I mean, obviously I didn't SEE the food, but I made a similar lunch to take the piss and it wasn't exactly the biggest thing I've ever eaten.

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MrChris wrote:
Cras wrote:
Yeah. I don't know what exactly she's trying to do there - fat shame the guy? Diet shame? - but it's bizarre and ridiculous.

She's not exactly thin herself.

Let's fight fatphobia with…more fatphobia. Good job. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Bits and Bobs 47
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Last time I was nursing a hangover with the obligatory large breakfast at a 'Spoons I had to grudgingly admit to my friends that I was too delicate to finish it. Have yet to live down the shame.


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