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Author: | Curiosity [ Fri Jul 08, 2016 13:41 ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 European Football Cup |
My fiver on Griezmann to get golden boot is looking good though! (My tenner on Germany to win less so) |
Author: | MaliA [ Fri Jul 08, 2016 13:41 ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 European Football Cup |
Curiosity wrote: My fiver on Griezmann to get golden boot is looking good though! (My tenner on Germany to win less so) Where is your faith in Pinot? |
Author: | Curiosity [ Fri Jul 08, 2016 13:42 ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 European Football Cup |
MaliA wrote: Curiosity wrote: My fiver on Griezmann to get golden boot is looking good though! (My tenner on Germany to win less so) Where is your faith in Pinot? I spent a fortune on Burgundy last month. |
Author: | Agent Starling [ Sun Jul 10, 2016 20:29 ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 European Football Cup |
Snivelling Ronaldo being carried off there. Can't summon up much sympathy with some of his tantrums etc in this tournament. But oh, those moths! |
Author: | devilman [ Mon Jul 11, 2016 14:15 ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 European Football Cup |
Kinda glad the tournament is over now. Some of those matches were pretty dire affairs. I can't help thinking that having two yellow cards equalling a one-match suspension does more harm than good, especially with how easy it can be to pick up a yellow sometimes. Perhaps change it to three yellows or wipe the slate a round earlier maybe? Certainly Wales were a lot more ordinary without Ramsey for instance. |
Author: | lasermink [ Mon Jul 11, 2016 14:26 ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 European Football Cup |
devilman wrote: Kinda glad the tournament is over now. Some of those matches were pretty dire affairs. I can't help thinking that having two yellow cards equalling a one-match suspension does more harm than good, especially with how easy it can be to pick up a yellow sometimes. Perhaps change it to three yellows or wipe the slate a round earlier maybe? Certainly Wales were a lot more ordinary without Ramsey for instance. It used to be three yellows to a red, IIRC, but it means every single counter chance is ruined by professional fouls. |
Author: | myp [ Mon Jul 11, 2016 14:27 ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 European Football Cup |
lasermink wrote: devilman wrote: Kinda glad the tournament is over now. Some of those matches were pretty dire affairs. I can't help thinking that having two yellow cards equalling a one-match suspension does more harm than good, especially with how easy it can be to pick up a yellow sometimes. Perhaps change it to three yellows or wipe the slate a round earlier maybe? Certainly Wales were a lot more ordinary without Ramsey for instance. It used to be three yellows to a red, IIRC, but it means every single counter chance is ruined by professional fouls. But a professional foul is a straight red, so would make no difference. |
Author: | lasermink [ Mon Jul 11, 2016 14:29 ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 European Football Cup |
Lonewolves wrote: lasermink wrote: devilman wrote: Kinda glad the tournament is over now. Some of those matches were pretty dire affairs. I can't help thinking that having two yellow cards equalling a one-match suspension does more harm than good, especially with how easy it can be to pick up a yellow sometimes. Perhaps change it to three yellows or wipe the slate a round earlier maybe? Certainly Wales were a lot more ordinary without Ramsey for instance. It used to be three yellows to a red, IIRC, but it means every single counter chance is ruined by professional fouls. But a professional foul is a straight red, so would make no difference. No it isn't. You don't get a red for taking out a player initiating a rush towards the opponents' goal, for example. |
Author: | Malc [ Mon Jul 11, 2016 14:33 ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 European Football Cup |
I think it just needs more card types. Taking your top off after a goal should not merit the same punishment as fouling someone or deliberate hand ball. I'd like to see 3 or 4 levels of card, I'd also like to see rugby style sin bins for the 2nd harshest card, but then I'd like to see quite a lot of stuff from rugby come into football (stopped clocks, audible referee calls, greater respect of the referee - backed up by a card, video replays of important calls and manager challenges of referee decisions - maybe 1 per half) |
Author: | myp [ Mon Jul 11, 2016 14:35 ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 European Football Cup |
lasermink wrote: Lonewolves wrote: lasermink wrote: devilman wrote: Kinda glad the tournament is over now. Some of those matches were pretty dire affairs. I can't help thinking that having two yellow cards equalling a one-match suspension does more harm than good, especially with how easy it can be to pick up a yellow sometimes. Perhaps change it to three yellows or wipe the slate a round earlier maybe? Certainly Wales were a lot more ordinary without Ramsey for instance. It used to be three yellows to a red, IIRC, but it means every single counter chance is ruined by professional fouls. But a professional foul is a straight red, so would make no difference. No it isn't. You don't get a red for taking out a player initiating a rush towards the opponents' goal, for example. Depends if they're the last defender or not, and if the referee sees it as deliberate (which it must be to be a professional foul). |
Author: | lasermink [ Mon Jul 11, 2016 14:39 ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 European Football Cup |
Lonewolves wrote: lasermink wrote: Lonewolves wrote: lasermink wrote: devilman wrote: Kinda glad the tournament is over now. Some of those matches were pretty dire affairs. I can't help thinking that having two yellow cards equalling a one-match suspension does more harm than good, especially with how easy it can be to pick up a yellow sometimes. Perhaps change it to three yellows or wipe the slate a round earlier maybe? Certainly Wales were a lot more ordinary without Ramsey for instance. It used to be three yellows to a red, IIRC, but it means every single counter chance is ruined by professional fouls. But a professional foul is a straight red, so would make no difference. No it isn't. You don't get a red for taking out a player initiating a rush towards the opponents' goal, for example. Depends if they're the last defender or not, and if the referee sees it as deliberate (which it must be to be a professional foul). Well, I have never seen a player get a red card for obviously taking out a player in a counter rush unless it was the last defender. Professional or not, my actual point still stands, which is that counteroffensives would be ruined by allowing more yellows. |
Author: | GazChap [ Mon Jul 11, 2016 16:02 ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 European Football Cup |
Malc wrote: Taking your top off after a goal should not merit the same punishment What? Taking your top off after a goal is punished? |
Author: | Curiosity [ Mon Jul 11, 2016 16:36 ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 European Football Cup |
There's no rule about the 'last man'. The rule is anything that is preventing a clear goal scoring opportunity = red card. |
Author: | devilman [ Mon Jul 11, 2016 18:05 ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 European Football Cup |
GazChap wrote: Malc wrote: Taking your top off after a goal should not merit the same punishment What? Taking your top off after a goal is punished? Yup. Mandatory yellow card if you pull your shirt up over your head. 'Unsporting' apparently. FIFA wrote: Under the section "Additional Instructions for Referees and Assistant Referees", the Laws clearly state: "Removing one's shirt after scoring is unnecessary and players should avoid such excessive displays of joy."
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Author: | Cras [ Mon Jul 11, 2016 18:12 ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 European Football Cup |
Professional sporting associations are all such unmitigated self-important wankers. |
Author: | Mimi [ Mon Jul 11, 2016 18:23 ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 European Football Cup |
Now, I thought this had all come about after kit manufacturer's and advertider's conokdunts that by removing shirts during goal celebrations took away a lot of their already paid-for advertising potential, as goal celebration photographs are the most reproduced in newspapers and on the Internet? |
Author: | Curiosity [ Mon Jul 11, 2016 18:26 ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 European Football Cup |
Mimi wrote: Now, I thought this had all come about after kit manufacturer's and advertider's conokdunts that by removing shirts during goal celebrations took away a lot of their already paid-for advertising potential, as goal celebration photographs are the most reproduced in newspapers and on the Internet? That was certainly a part of it. As it banning non-official advertisements (see Nicklas Bendtner for details). |
Author: | Cras [ Mon Jul 11, 2016 20:27 ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 European Football Cup |
I'm not convinced that takes away from my earlier. |
Author: | RuySan [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:29 ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 European Football Cup |
The yellow accumulation rule is fair enough. There should be a way to punish all those "professional" fouls as it was said earlier. What i also agree is that some yellows are beyond ridiculous, like the no-shirt thing and handballs in no-danger zones. Basically i don't have anything to add to this topic except that i'm happy beyond measure. Sunday night was amazing, and so was yesterday. The Moth should become the official mascot of the portuguese national team. |
Author: | Pundabaya [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 18:58 ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 European Football Cup |
Shit final, and the wrong team won. There was an interesting suggestion on the Beeb website... if someone gets two yellows in a tournament they can play in the next game, but have to start on the bench. Or basketball style: three levels: Six Normal fouls (talking back to the ref, normal foul tackles, accidental handballs, minor unsportsmanlike conduct), two flagrant fouls (dangerous play, flagrant handballs, cynical fouls, diving) and ejection (assault, extremely dangerous play, racist or homophobic behaviour) |
Author: | myp [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 19:56 ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 European Football Cup |
What's to stop you bringing that player on after 30 seconds? |
Author: | MaliA [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 19:59 ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 European Football Cup |
Lonewolves wrote: What's to stop you bringing that player on after 30 seconds? Lose a sub then. |
Author: | myp [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 20:02 ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 European Football Cup |
MaliA wrote: Lonewolves wrote: What's to stop you bringing that player on after 30 seconds? Lose a sub then. Oh no, what will they do without their 4th choice centre back? |
Author: | MaliA [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 20:11 ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 European Football Cup |
Lonewolves wrote: MaliA wrote: Lonewolves wrote: What's to stop you bringing that player on after 30 seconds? Lose a sub then. Oh no, what will they do without their 4th choice centre back? But you can only make 2 changes, no? |
Author: | RuySan [ Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:27 ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 European Football Cup |
Pundabaya wrote: Shit final, and the wrong team won. Nonsense! This topic shall never die |
Author: | Zardoz [ Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:41 ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 European Football Cup |
It's the advertiser's conokdunts that put me off watching football. |
Author: | Bobbyaro [ Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:51 ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 European Football Cup |
Quite |
Author: | RuySan [ Wed Jul 20, 2016 16:00 ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 European Football Cup |
Zardoz wrote: It's the advertiser's conokdunts that put me off watching football. Humm....what? |
Author: | Sir Taxalot [ Wed Jul 20, 2016 23:44 ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 European Football Cup |
MaliA wrote: Lonewolves wrote: MaliA wrote: Lonewolves wrote: What's to stop you bringing that player on after 30 seconds? Lose a sub then. Oh no, what will they do without their 4th choice centre back? But you can only make 2 changes, no? I quite like the sound of that idea actually, it disadvantages the team as a whole but also might go some way to preventing the Big Final (tm) matches occurring without Star Players (also tm), which does seem a bit of a shame when it happens, and also I'm sure the advertisers would like it and we all know how much football loves cash-money. |
Author: | myp [ Fri Jul 29, 2016 0:49 ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 European Football Cup |
Portugal statistically the least impressive team to have ever won a major trophy Wow, worse than Greece in 2004, that's impressively unimpressive. |
Author: | RuySan [ Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:26 ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 European Football Cup |
I disagree. I was very impressed. What a great night that was. |
Author: | myp [ Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:54 ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 European Football Cup |
You can't disagree with statistics. |
Author: | Mr Russell [ Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:55 ] |
Post subject: | Re: 2016 European Football Cup |
Lonewolves wrote: You can't disagree with statistics. I disagree. |
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