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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 16:08 
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Oh Christ, and "That thing does not obey the laws of physics at all!"

Best line for me, I think. Loved that.

Isn't the magic shield physics waved away in the comics "because vibranium"?

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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 16:38 
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I also wasn't convinced by him as Peter Parker, but he felt kind of shoehorned in and not given much screentime, so I'll reserve judgement for his standalone movie.


In some ways that's true but it was also quite refreshing to have a character's entire introduction blown through in five minutes rather than the usual lengthy origins story. They managed to give you most everything you needed to know in situ and while it was slightly clunky I think it generally worked.


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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 16:40 
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Grim... wrote:
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Oh Christ, and "That thing does not obey the laws of physics at all!"

Best line for me, I think. Loved that.

Isn't the magic shield physics waved away in the comics "because vibranium"?


Pretty much, though from a quick scan of the relevant Wiki page it seems that it can claim to be a completely unique mixture of vibranium, adamantium and Uru because comics.


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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 16:45 
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Yeah I don't really think going over the entire origin is required again, although a succinct montage at the start of the movie would be a smart move at least, but I just want to see what they are doing differently with this iteration of the character, and give him a bit of room to breathe. It's not really about needing to retread old ground, but we need a little more of an introduction to this iteration of Spider-Man. The story of his first big confrontation with a super-villain has just as much scope for this as an origin story. I guess I want to see him learning the ropes at least, which was obviously something that they were aiming for in Civil War.

I certainly wouldn't say it was much worse than "slightly clunky", perhaps the Peter Parker dialogue was showed up a little by how well they did the Spider-Man dialogue.


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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 16:49 
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One of the biggest contrasts for me in BvS vs Civil War was the way they dealt with the origin stories of Batman and Spider-Man. I was close to actually screaming at the screen in BvS as we saw it yet again, in not even vaguely actually dramatic slow motion.

Plus stuff in Marvel is allowed to happen during hours of daylight.

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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 17:06 
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After seeing someone on the SA forums refer to BvS as "Beavis", I cannot refer to it as anything else now.

Also, in Civil War, do they state that Black Panther's suit is made out of vibranium at any point? Seems a bit odd that people (Cap and Stark especially) fight him knowing full well that his suit can absorb their blows.

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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 17:07 
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Also, in Civil War, do they state that Black Panther's suit is made out of vibranium at any point? Seems a bit odd that people (Cap and Stark especially) fight him knowing full well that his suit can absorb their blows.

Very briefly, I think. Maybe when his claws scratch Cap's shield IIRC.


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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 17:12 
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After seeing someone on the SA forums refer to BvS as "Beavis", I cannot refer to it as anything else now.

Also, in Civil War, do they state that Black Panther's suit is made out of vibranium at any point? Seems a bit odd that people (Cap and Stark especially) fight him knowing full well that his suit can absorb their blows.

Yeah - I'm fairly sure Iron Man says "Vibranium suit?"

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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 17:33 
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Plus stuff in Marvel is allowed to happen during hours of daylight.


I'd never thought of that...thanks Curio that's made me smile.

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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 18:05 
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Yeah I don't really think going over the entire origin is required again, although a succinct montage at the start of the movie would be a smart move at least, but I just want to see what they are doing differently with this iteration of the character, and give him a bit of room to breathe. It's not really about needing to retread old ground, but we need a little more of an introduction to this iteration of Spider-Man. The story of his first big confrontation with a super-villain has just as much scope for this as an origin story. I guess I want to see him learning the ropes at least, which was obviously something that they were aiming for in Civil War.

I certainly wouldn't say it was much worse than "slightly clunky", perhaps the Peter Parker dialogue was showed up a little by how well they did the Spider-Man dialogue.


Oh fuck no. The last think I would ever need to see is another superhero learning the fucking ropes. Christ. They all fell in a cave, with like bats or spiders or whatever. Cool. And they spend some time not being awesome at stuff. Okay, whatever, dull, move on.

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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 19:03 
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I'm pretty sure the new spider-man is going to be an oranges one. In Civil War when Iron Man asks him where he got his powers, he replies it's a long story or something along those lines. So I'm pretty sure they don't want to give plot lines away, so maybe it might be different from being bit by a spider again.


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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 19:12 
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Maybe this time he bit the spider.

They established that he has mechanical web shooters of his own design, right?

I guess they could be doing something like the thing from Ultimate Spider-Man (that I only know from the cartoon) where he is being trained by Nick Fury and Shield to step up from dealing with petty crime and burglaries to taking on New York's scariest super villains. But maybe with Tony Stark and Stark Enterprises instead.


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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 19:19 
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They established that he has mechanical web shooters of his own design, right?

Yes, but that was also true in the last two Sony movies (the Garfield ones.)


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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 19:26 
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Aye, was just confirming it.


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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 19:36 
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Every time i tried to watch a Superhero hero movie i felt like if i was listening to a 30 minute grindcore song. They are just way too fatiguing. Wake me up when they make such noisy and over-edited films which last only 90 minutes. It's strange because it seems the whole universe likes them though.

The only one I thoroughly liked was kick-ass.


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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 22:02 
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Runcle wrote:
I'm pretty sure the new spider-man is going to be an oranges one.


I have no idea what this means.

Also, the chance of Spiderman not getting his powers from a spider seems pretty slim.


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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 22:36 
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I'm pretty sure the new spider-man is going to be an oranges one.


I have no idea what this means.

"Origin"

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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
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Grim... wrote:
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I'm pretty sure the new spider-man is going to be an oranges one.


I have no idea what this means.

"Origin"


I have no idea what this means.

ETA: an "origins Spiderman" isn't a term I'm familiar with or that makes any sense (to me) in context.


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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 23:25 
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Really? You've never heard of an 'origins' superhero film to mean one telling how that person came to be a superhero?

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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 23:52 
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Really? You've never heard of an 'origins' superhero film to mean one telling how that person came to be a superhero?


I'd taken it to be a description of the character rather than some future film i.e. I've drunkenly taken that too literally by far. My apologies.


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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2016 10:40 
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Really enjoyed that, though less so towards the end. It felt like a slightly more grown up reason for a civil war than the comics (though written down it doesn't sound it - in the films it's just personal, really, which sounds a bit naff). Good humour, and I really liked Spidey, though his voice and general wonderment was great. Martin Freeman (in common with most people) shouldn't be doing that accent, though. I can understand him wanting to, might open the door to big career things, but the people making films ought to have more judgement. If an accent is only 'good enough' then it's probably shit and unconvincing.


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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2016 10:49 
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Agree on Freeman. Just seemed weird!

I want to see the movie again just for the airport fight.

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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2016 11:16 
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I felt the same with him in Fargo (series 1) and it was only 1/2 way through that I finally could watch it without thinking about his accent.

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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
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Is Civil War plot anything related to the Pinball Table on PFX2? I really like that table....


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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2016 16:32 
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Yet if he'd done his normal voice it would have been criticised as Tim from the Office again, so he can't win.


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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2016 0:42 
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I finally watched Captain America: Cybil Shepherd, and it may be because I can' t stand Cap as a character, I felt he was wrong. Completely and unreservedly. Bucky is completely unsympathetic.



It doesn't help that the coolest superheroes were on Tony's side. As well as the best characters. Ant-man was good though. I'll actually have to watch his film now.

Liked Spidey. Seemed to be the closest to the comics we've seen on film.

Sam Wilson is a non-entity as a character. Get rid.

Hate Scarlet Witch. Never got why they decided to use her as she's an X-men character anyway. Would rather have Squirrel Girl.

Panther was ace.

All in all, alright. The action sequences were pretty good. (Though suffer from the problem of 'you just met the guy, how the fuck do you know that wouldn't kill him' quite a lot. Particularly Scarlet Witch slamming people in to things and Cap dropping a couple of tonnes on a 15 year old kid who at that point could just be super-agile and squished flat)


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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
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In short, Deadpool is still undisputed champion of Marvel movies. What I have seen.


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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2016 10:12 
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In short, Deadpool is still undisputed champion of Marvel movies. What I have seen.

It's not a Marvel movie, for the purposes of this thread.


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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2016 10:35 
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I think an argument can be made that Deadpool's superpower of being aware of the medium he exists in means that he's also aware of the MCU's existence.


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Garfield has superpowers.

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