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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2016 6:30 
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Saw Civil War last night. I think I need to stop bothering with these films, they just don't move me at all. The acrimony between them seemed about as bitter as if one of them had failed to reply to a text message and the ensuing war was just some meaningless noise where nothing actually happened apart from his mate hurt his legs. A few good bits in amongst it all but mostly just the same old shite over and over again.


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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2016 6:51 
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I found myself having to go online and look things up last time I watch one, think it was the last Avengers film.

Find the Captain America films to be the best once to watch as you just get sick of all the big CGI scenes in the others.

Still you can't knock the people in charge at Disney, they have big money films in the pipeline for years mow with Starwars and Marvel

Found a picture of the timelines for Marvell still plenty to come!


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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2016 6:58 
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That's missing the recently announced series for The Punisher.

Edit: there's also rumblings that Sony might have got the rights to make a Spider-Man video game, presumably as part of their deal with Disney for the movies. A motion capture artist recently listed "Spider-Man PlayStation game" on his linked in, and not long before took a photo at a Sony motion capture studio on his Instagram. It's also known that Sucker Punch are not currently working of a new Infampus.

Could just be a standalone Spider-Man game, could be tied to the comics, could just be a standard movie tie in, or it could be the first MCU game that isn't just a straight up adaptation of one of the movies done on the cheap.

I know that a while ago marvel said they wanted to get good games made rather than just the licenced tat of the other MCU adaptations, having said that they were disappointed with the outcome of their previous games.


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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2016 9:04 
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markg wrote:
Saw Civil War last night. I think I need to stop bothering with these films, they just don't move me at all. The acrimony between them seemed about as bitter as if one of them had failed to reply to a text message and the ensuing war was just some meaningless noise where nothing actually happened apart from his mate hurt his legs. A few good bits in amongst it all but mostly just the same old shite over and over again.

Yeah, I think that's probably what I'm feeling. Nothing in the Marvel films really "wows" me any more.

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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2016 11:15 
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Guardians of the Galaxy was the last one where I came out of the cinema with a huge grin on my face but I've enjoyed all of them since then.
They are still a very agreeable way to pass a couple of hours.


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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Fri May 06, 2016 13:16 
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I'm feeling fatigue with them. They are kind of ok but the weight of all the previous movies and the movies to come is getting a bit much. Plus they are starting to feel a bit samey. Works much better in tv series form this sort of thing if you ask me. Smaller chunks please rather than 2h30 each time.

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PostPosted: Sun May 08, 2016 18:49 
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This was great!

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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 10:10 
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Ha I didn't remember him dying at all. Edit: Doubt it was out of courtesy to Fox though, given how they only put Quicksilver in DOFP at the last minute when he showed up in a Marvel post credit scene, the original script had Juggernaut playing that role, which would have actually made a lot more sense, even though Quicksilver worked too.

Was Civil War the first time Gwyneth Paltrow has been curiously absent? Was that not the case in Age of Ultron too?


Did you watch Ultron?

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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 10:18 
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Aye, I just completely forgot that scene.

Edit: The scene where Quicksilver died.

Regarding Paltrow, I think it's just that a lot of these movies are blurring together. Iron Man is in how many of them?


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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 10:27 
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It was key as he saved Hawkeye...

IronMan has been in

IM, IM2, IM3
AA, AAoU
Cap America 3: Civil War

Pepper was in
IM, IM2, IM3
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Not sure about AAoU

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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 10:33 
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He had a cameo in The Incredible Hulk, too.


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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 10:53 
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That is not part of the new 'Marvel' is it?

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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 10:55 
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That is not part of the new 'Marvel' is it?

Yes, it is. Just about. You see clips from it playing on a monitor in (IIRC) The Avengers when they are planning on talking to Banner.


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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 10:56 
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Oh right..

I assumed everything after IM was new Marvel and independent of XMen etc

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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 11:01 
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KovacsC wrote:
Oh right..

I assumed everything after IM was new Marvel and independent of XMen etc


It is independent of X-Men because the X-Men films are made by Fox. See also Spider-Man and Fantastic Four.


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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 11:03 
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KovacsC wrote:
Oh right..

I assumed everything after IM was new Marvel and independent of XMen etc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_M ... erse_films


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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 11:09 
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Looking it up, they also have the same dude (William Hurt) playing "Thunderbolt Ross" (who in the comics is eventually Red Hulk). He's in The Incredible Hulk as General Ross and Civil War as Secretary of State Ross.

It's also in the "Marvel Phase One" DVD/Blu Ray box set.

I'd also say by virtue of having RDJ's Tony Stark in it, it's straight up part of the MCU.

It's odd because it's also sort of implied to be a direct sequel to Ang Lee's "The Hulk", but only slightly so. There's a few nods to the prior film, and chronologically it would make sense to fit in there.

Obviously they switched actors for The Hulk, but there is more than a few nods to The Incredible Hulk in the other MCU movies. And again, where the character is when he is reintroduced in Avengers Assemble is in line with where he might have been following on from The Incredible Hulk.

It does kind of stick out compared to the others though.


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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 11:12 
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I will watch it again...

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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 15:06 
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We took the Grimlet to see Cap3 (against Mrs Grim...'s wishes, I should add). When asked what his favourite bit was, he said "the bit with Spider-man".
"Which bit?"
Well, apparently, this bit:


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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 15:14 
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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 15:19 
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Nah. She was more worried about the violence (we watched Cap2 on Saturday in preparation and a rather surprising number of people get shot in the face), but Cap3 wasn't too bad.

"You have the right to remain silent!"

Something else I noticed - in the Iron Man films Stark always mistook Stan Lee for someone else - in this film Stan got his name wrong. Also Dean Pelton from Community was Dean of MIT.

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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 15:27 
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Martin Freeman's minor role was pretty weird but I looked up his character and I guess he is going to be in the upcoming Black Panther movie.


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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 15:30 
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I've just bought the entire phase 2 of Blu-rays from Amazon for £48. They're doing a 2 for £16 offer at the moment.

I was waiting for a box set like they did with the first phase, but it never arrived. The expensive limited editions notwithstanding.


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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 15:45 
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Nah. She was more worried about the violence (we watched Cap2 on Saturday in preparation and a rather surprising number of people get shot in the face), but Cap3 wasn't too bad.

"You have the right to remain silent!"

Something else I noticed - in the Iron Man films Stark always mistook Stan Lee for someone else - in this film Stan got his name wrong. Also Dean Pelton from Community was Dean of MIT.


I laughed at the Dean thing.

Spider-Man was great. The line you quoted made me laugh, as did almost everything he said and did. The fight with Giant Man was brilliant, as was the earlier bit, with, "Sorry. I thought it was a water truck", which made me laugh for a solid ten seconds.

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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 15:51 
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I liked that Spidey was nerding out for most of the fight. "Are those wings carbon fiber?"

Oh Christ, and "That thing does not obey the laws of physics at all!"

But "You have the right to remain silent!" was the best one.

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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 15:56 
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My favourite was "this is your conscience speaking". :D


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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 16:00 
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Oh Christ, and "That thing does not obey the laws of physics at all!"

Best line for me, I think. Loved that.


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 Post subject: Re: Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler thread: discuss all films
PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 16:04 
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I loved the Spider-Man dialogue, but he did look very much like CGI, more than anything else in these movies.

I also wasn't convinced by him as Peter Parker, but he felt kind of shoehorned in and not given much screentime, so I'll reserve judgement for his standalone movie.


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I loved the Spider-Man dialogue, but he did look very much like CGI, more than anything else in these movies.

I also wasn't convinced by him as Peter Parker, but he felt kind of shoehorned in and not given much screentime, so I'll reserve judgement for his standalone movie.

I thought he was really, really good. And the CGI didn't bother me really. Iron Man and War Machine looked just as much CGI to me.


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PostPosted: Mon May 09, 2016 16:08 
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Grim... wrote:
I liked that Spidey was nerding out for most of the fight. "Are those wings carbon fiber?"

Oh Christ, and "That thing does not obey the laws of physics at all!"

But "You have the right to remain silent!" was the best one.


All superb, as was the conscience one. Ant Man fit into the film surprisingly well.

Also funny, Falcon's "Bird suit?", and the look he and Bucky gave Cap post-kiss.

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