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Author:  Cras [ Mon Jul 24, 2017 22:57 ]
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Spider-Man was pretty great. Mostly for the supporting cast though. Keaton was ace.
Author:  KovacsC [ Mon Jul 24, 2017 22:59 ]
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Cras wrote:
Spider-Man was pretty great. Mostly for the supporting cast though. Keaton was ace.


Keston is always great.
Author:  GazChap [ Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:22 ]
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//edit: Apparently I put this in the wrong thread :P
Author:  Grim... [ Sat Nov 11, 2017 20:47 ]
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Thor 3 was pretty damned good, mainly because Hulk. Hulk is always good, unless he has the film to himself. I've decided he's basically a comedy sidekick.

The only things I was a bit "hmm" about was Hela, who I thought was a bit two dimensional and a bit dull, and I think Thor beat Hulk too easily in the gladiator arena.

And what happened to Loki? He was nowhere near as funny or good as a good guy.

I liked seeing Dr Strange, and Matt Damon (playing Loki for the second time), Sam Neil and I assume a Hemsworth brother in the play?

I assume that was Thanos's ship at the end? Infinity War is shaping up to be quite the thing.

So that's the trilogy of trilogy's done. Bring on Black Panther!
Author:  Grim... [ Sat Nov 11, 2017 21:16 ]
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Oh, the post credit bit was shit.
Author:  Bamba [ Sat Nov 11, 2017 21:18 ]
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Eh, I thought Loki was really funny in it. Shitting himself when he saw the Hulk, his reaction when finally dropping out the end of Day Strange's warp tube thing, his reaction at being revealed by Thor to be pretending to be Odin at the start; lots of good stuff.
Author:  Curiosity [ Sun Nov 12, 2017 1:44 ]
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Grim... wrote:

The only things I was a bit "hmm" about was Hela, who I thought was a bit two dimensional and a bit dull, and I think Thor beat Hulk too easily in the gladiator arena.

And what happened to Loki? He was nowhere near as funny or good as a good guy.


Two things.

1 - Hulk (not Thor) won the fight comfortably because he’s Hulk. That’s what he does, even in a version that has a tiny fraction of the power from the comics.

2 - Loki wasn’t a good guy at any point; he only inadvertently ended up on that side despite his wishes because Hela was fucking up his house. And him being a devious twat means he totally stole the infinity stone whie saving/destroying the world.

But it was ace. And Korg made me laugh out loud a lot.
Author:  Grim... [ Sun Nov 12, 2017 2:07 ]
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Curiosity wrote:
1 - Hulk (not Thor) won the fight comfortably because he’s Hulk.

That he didn't. They had to stop Thor because he was winning.

And Loki is a frost giant, something that they always seem to forget.
Author:  JBR [ Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:19 ]
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They had to stop Thor because he was competitive and gathering popularity, not because he won (though I agree the winner is arguable).
Author:  Curiosity [ Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:10 ]
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Hulk would have continued to pound him because Hulk.
Author:  Grim... [ Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:34 ]
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Curiosity wrote:
Hulk would have continued to pound him because Hulk.

Hulk was pretty much unconscious. I fully agree that Hulk should have just been turning him into a smear on the floor.
Author:  Curiosity [ Sun Nov 12, 2017 12:27 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
Hulk would have continued to pound him because Hulk.

Hulk was pretty much unconscious. I fully agree that Hulk should have just been turning him into a smear on the floor.


Nah, he was just about to get more angry.
Author:  Grim... [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 15:19 ]
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::Infinity War trailer siren::
Author:  Grim... [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 15:22 ]
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Author:  Curiosity [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 15:30 ]
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Given the number of characters they need to cram in to the movie, I can’t see it being anything other than an absolute mess.

That said, I am probably going to love it despite the flaws. Either way, excited! The last few Marvel movies have delivered, so here’s hoping.
Author:  GazChap [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 15:44 ]
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meh. i'm sure it'll be another movie where the fate of the entire universe hinges on the titular heroes which of course means that there's no stakes whatsoever because the heroes can't possibly lose.

i'll still watch it anyway, obviously, but unless all of the "old guard" avengers die at the end I'll consider it a disappointment.
Author:  Satsuma [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 15:46 ]
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Blonde Black widow? GETTHEFUCKOUTTAHERE.
Author:  DavPaz [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 15:55 ]
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I still have Spider-Man and Thor 3 to catch up on. Slow down there, Marvel!
Author:  Curiosity [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 16:03 ]
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GazChap wrote:
meh. i'm sure it'll be another movie where the fate of the entire universe hinges on the titular heroes which of course means that there's no stakes whatsoever because the heroes can't possibly lose.

i'll still watch it anyway, obviously, but unless all of the "old guard" avengers die at the end I'll consider it a disappointment.


Well, they have Avengers 4 coming out the following year (I think), but that is the one that’s supposed to draw the line under the current generation (though likely with some exceptions).
Author:  myp [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 16:06 ]
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Isn't it a two-parter? Should hopefully make it less messy.
Author:  Grim... [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 16:17 ]
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GazChap wrote:
meh. i'm sure it'll be another movie where the fate of the entire universe hinges on the titular heroes which of course means that there's no stakes whatsoever because the heroes can't possibly lose.

You must dislike a lot of movies.

Satsuma wrote:
Blonde Black widow? GETTHEFUCKOUTTAHERE.

:this:
Author:  GazChap [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 16:26 ]
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Grim... wrote:
You must dislike a lot of movies.

only when basically every Marvel film has the same structure. I've mentioned before how the Marvel films I prefer are the ones that aren't taking part in the seemingly endless arms race to up the stakes.

Ant-Man, Spiderman Homecoming, Iron Man and the original Thor are probably my top 4.
Author:  Bamba [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 16:41 ]
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GazChap wrote:
I've mentioned before how the Marvel films I prefer are the ones that aren't taking part in the seemingly endless arms race to up the stakes.


You should totally pitch Marvel your 'massive team of powerful superheroes get together to unblock a sink' screen-play; the might go for it.
Author:  LewieP [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 16:43 ]
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I think they will be able to pull off that many characters easily. Split them into four groups, give them 20 minutes screentime each. Plenty of time left over for connective tissue, Thanos stuff, and a big spectacle fight at the end.

I don't think it will be a masterpiece, but I think it will be a lot of fun. They've never really totally shat the bed, and Thor 2 isn't that bad. With the first Avengers movie, I didn't think it was incredible, but my main impression was that I didn't think they dropped the ball in any major way. They nailed the execution of the team up story, and it resulted in a fun movie.

Thanos looks good in the trailer, and it's going to be fun to see different characters and interacting, because a lot of these characters I already care about.

Isn't the next one out 12 months later or something? It's like a two parter?
Author:  myp [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 16:53 ]
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I think someone mentioned that further up the page yeah
Author:  GazChap [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 17:16 ]
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Bamba wrote:
GazChap wrote:
I've mentioned before how the Marvel films I prefer are the ones that aren't taking part in the seemingly endless arms race to up the stakes.

You should totally pitch Marvel your 'massive team of powerful superheroes get together to unblock a sink' screen-play; the might go for it.

i'd buy that for a dollar

Seriously though, the problem with this shit (and it's not just Marvel, but they're the worst for it simply due to the sheer number of movies in the MCU at this point) is that it's been done so many times before and by now, it's just so fucking predictable and boring.

Here's a list of what the plot says will happen if the bad guys win in each of the MCU movies:
ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
Iron Man - the bad guy just wants to get Stark out of the way so he can carry on making money selling weapons
The Incredible Hulk - dunno, not seen this one
Iron Man 2 - just a revenge story really
Thor - another revenge story
Captain America: The First Avenger - the Red Skull dude will launch Tesseract-powered WMDs and kill millions of people
Marvel's The Avengers - Earth will be lost to the Chitauri/Thanos, and presumably humans either wiped out or subjugated

Iron Man 3 - another revenge story
Thor: The Dark World - some sort of cataclysmic world-ending event
Captain America: The Winter Soldier - millions killed by Hydra
Guardians of the Galaxy - the bad guy will use the infinity stone to destroy the galaxy
Avengers: Age of Ultron - humanity is annihilated
Ant-Man - shrinking suits to be sold to Hydra, which will presumably end up being used to kill millions but isn't stated

Captain America: Civil War - a revenge story
Doctor Strange - Earth will be engulfed by the Dark Dimension
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 - The galaxy (universe?) will be completely remolded as per Ego's own world
Spider-Man: Homecoming - some guys will continue to sell stolen alien technology
Thor: Ragnarok - Hela will rule over all 9 realms and spread death and destruction wherever she goes

I've bolded the ones that I feel Infinity War is just going to be a rehash of.

It's just nothing new. The marketing is all "it's all been building up to this" but actually it's more "you've basically already seen this at least three times before, but this time there's more heroes!"

Anyway, like I say, I'll still go and see it because I'm sure it'll be a decent blockbuster action film. In fact, if anything my moaning is a criticism of the earlier films rather than this one, it's just like the MCU has a severe form of premature ejaculation.

//edit: If I was to do a similar list for the DCEU, it would be entirely bolded :P
Author:  Curiosity [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 17:44 ]
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The studio recanted that Avengers 4 is the second half of Infinity War, and changed the title accordingly, but I think they still filmed them together so it’s probably very connected.

My favourite thing about the movies is them refusing to let Tom Holland read the script because they don’t trust him with the spoilers :D
Author:  flis [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 17:58 ]
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Sebastian Stan is a massive spoiler giver awayer, too. But he's the most adorable emo bad guy ever so it's fine.

There was a picture on twitter the other day, with all the lady heroes in one shot, all dressed normally like before hair and makeup. It gave me feels.

I hope Starlord and Thor get to be bezzie mates. With no shirts on.
Author:  Pundabaya [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 19:52 ]
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They've got 4 groups already. Thor's buddies, Tony's Noble Avengers, Steve "Cunty" Rogers bunch of dirty war criminals and the Guardians.
Author:  Mr Dave [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 22:27 ]
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Bamba wrote:
GazChap wrote:
I've mentioned before how the Marvel films I prefer are the ones that aren't taking part in the seemingly endless arms race to up the stakes.


You should totally pitch Marvel your 'massive team of powerful superheroes get together to unblock a sink' screen-play; the might go for it.

How about 'Massive team of powerful superheroes get together and still manage to lose'

Because if there's no chance of that, there's no dramatic tension.
Author:  Curiosity [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 22:57 ]
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Nah.

They’ll obviously win; the result of the entire series is not going to be the annihilation of all humankind.

But there might be a cost. Main characters might die. And therein lies the dramatic tension.
Author:  MrChris [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 23:02 ]
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No, they won't.

Because then they're not in the sequel and they can't sell action figures of them.
Author:  Curiosity [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 23:10 ]
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MrChris wrote:
No, they won't.

Because then they're not in the sequel and they can't sell action figures of them.


Happy to take a bet that not every hero survives.

*pours one out for Quicksilver*
Author:  MrChris [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 23:12 ]
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Quicksilver was an extended cameo, not a hero.
Author:  Satsuma [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 23:19 ]
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They can kill Black Panther. He’s shit.

And that telepathic woman. She’s shit an’ all.
Author:  LewieP [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 23:35 ]
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They are definitely going to kill off someone.

Also at some point Iron Man is going to put an infinity stone in his chest hole.

We'll see a couple of the Avengers retire, and I think Tony is going to give up active service, but take over from Nick Fury. At the end of the movie, there will be a new lineup. Including Spider-Man.

Also I think some of the villains sucked into infinity stones will come back (Ronan, Red Skull or that dark elf from Thor 2).
Author:  Cras [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 23:42 ]
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Let's not forget that it's all multiverse anyway any pretty much all of them have form for dying then coming back by various means.
Author:  Curiosity [ Thu Nov 30, 2017 0:24 ]
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Satsuma wrote:
They can kill Black Panther. He’s shit.

And that telepathic woman. She’s shit an’ all.


Black Panther trailer looks ace though.
Author:  myp [ Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:24 ]
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Massive racist satsuma
Author:  Grim... [ Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:41 ]
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I reckon either Iron Man or Cap are going to bite it. And Widow, because I fancy her and it'd be just fucking typical.

Things aren't going to end well for Vision either, considering he has an infinity stone in his head.
Author:  DavPaz [ Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:22 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
Massive racist satsuma

Why?
Author:  Kern [ Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:31 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
Massive racist satsuma


Donald Trump has a cameo?
Author:  DBSnappa [ Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:10 ]
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Kern wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Massive racist satsuma


Donald Trump has a cameo?


Oh, well done Kern! :)
Author:  LewieP [ Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:14 ]
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Grim... wrote:
I reckon either Iron Man or Cap is going to bite it. And Widow, because I fancy her and it'd be just fucking typical.

Things aren't going to end well for Vision either, considering he has an infinity stone in his head.

Could be that the ultron personality takes over. Or maybe Wanda is doing some magic to keep him stable.
Author:  Grim... [ Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:46 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Massive racist satsuma

Why?

Black Panther.
Author:  DavPaz [ Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:52 ]
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So he can't be shit because he's black?
Author:  myp [ Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:15 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
So he can't be shit because he's black?

Think about the bigger picture. Black Panther is really fucking important as the first non-white protagonist in his own movie in the MCU (we haven't had a woman yet, something that even DC had managed, and look at the reaction to WW from women and girls).

Calling him shit from 10 mins screen time in Civil War is a bit galling to all those black kids who are Marvel fans who want a superhero who looks just like them. We don't ever have to think about that as being a white male is the default setting when it comes to the media we consume and always had been.

Plus the film is directed by and stars mainly black people, who are often overlooked for the top jobs in Hollywood. I can't wait, personally, and hope it's a big success.

https://www.rollingstone.com/movies/new ... ry-w509105
Author:  DavPaz [ Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:19 ]
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So do I. But people are allowed to not like it without being racists, for fuck's sake.
Author:  myp [ Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:22 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
So do I. But people are allowed to not like it without being racists, for fuck's sake.

Oh yeah, sorry. I didn't realise Ian has a time machine and had watched it already. :)
Author:  DavPaz [ Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:26 ]
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Sweet, maybe I can borrow it and skip December.
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