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Author:  markg [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:41 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
And also banking on the fact that the Star Point scandal has been swept under the carpet.
Nah, they'll just put some shitty Pokemon thing on it and you'll abandon all your principles.
Author:  Satsuma [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:49 ]
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lasermink wrote:
According to Ars, the Switch uses a CPU that is entirely incompatible with the one in Wii U (which I guess has been known for a while but I wasn't aware), meaning backwards compatibility is completely out of the question.

So no touch, no motion control, no backwards compatibility, but still less powerful than the current gen, and that's not even including the new updates from Sony and Microsoft. They are really banking on the belief that people are craving a mobile gaming platform with proper controls.


No forward facing camera either! Noooooooo.
Author:  myp [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:53 ]
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I just want to play the next Mario and Splatoon games - being able to do so on the move or on holiday or at work is just a bonus.
Author:  Bobbyaro [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:56 ]
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I have never played a Mario game.
Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:56 ]
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Bobbyaro wrote:
I have never played a Mario game.

whut
Author:  KovacsC [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:57 ]
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Goddess Jasmine wrote:
TheVision wrote:
Bluecup wrote:
As a home console, isn't it a step back from the Wii U?

Yes, you can take this out and have LAN parties. But sitting on your bum at home, at the moment, this does less.


It's the games that matter. My Xbox one does all manner of things but I'm not enjoying it as much as I enjoyed my 360.


That's because you're missing bezzies. Get a PS4. :)


Yes Ma'am
Author:  LewieP [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:03 ]
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lasermink wrote:
According to Ars, the Switch uses a CPU that is entirely incompatible with the one in Wii U (which I guess has been known for a while but I wasn't aware), meaning backwards compatibility is completely out of the question.

So no touch, no motion control, no backwards compatibility, but still less powerful than the current gen, and that's not even including the new updates from Sony and Microsoft. They are really banking on the belief that people are craving a mobile gaming platform with proper controls.


Where are you getting "no touch" from?

I am fairly certain they are just not talking about touch yet, because the main thing that distinguishes it from for example a tablet is the physical controls.

I also doubt they'll be letting games require touch controls, so that they can ensure games will work when in docked mode on the tv.

Same applies to motion control. Just because the people in the trailer didn't demonstrate any waggle doesn't mean it's not supported.

It's a shame there's no BC, but the PPC architecture has been an albatross around Nintendo's neck for a while now. They needed to move to a more modern architecture, and this means they can just develop one library of software rather than segregating their software output between a handheld and a home console. I'm interested to see if Nintendo are doing any kind of free upgrade/discount for owners of the Wii U versions of the games which appear to be getting Switch versions with new features (both Splatoon and Mario Kart appear to be based on the Wii U versions, but also have new features not present in the Wii U versions).
Author:  Grim... [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:05 ]
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LewieP wrote:
Where are you getting "no touch" from?

From the fact that it spends half its life inside a box across the living room from you, I suspect.
Author:  LewieP [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:12 ]
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Grim... wrote:
LewieP wrote:
Where are you getting "no touch" from?

From the fact that it spends half its life inside a box across the living room from you, I suspect.

Why does that mean it can't have a touchscreen for those times when it isn't docked?

If nothing else, Nintendo will probably want to do a new version of Mario Maker, which was hugely successful on Wii U despite the small install base.

The cost of doing a touchscreen versus not doing a touchscreen is tiny for a device this size.

I'd generally assume that any device released in 2017 with a screen close enough for you to touch would be a touchscreen.

Hell, Nintendo have been putting touch screens in things since 2004.
Author:  Satsuma [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:14 ]
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http://m.imgur.com/a/FSHaK

Someone has done mockups of different colours which look much better than that sodding grey.
Author:  myp [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:15 ]
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Saturnalian wrote:
http://m.imgur.com/a/FSHaK

Someone has done mockups of different colours which look much better than that sodding grey.

It's the classic N64 colour you Nintendo philistine.

-edit- some of those look great though. :D
Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:32 ]
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markg wrote:
Zardoz wrote:
And also banking on the fact that the Star Point scandal has been swept under the carpet.
Nah, they'll just put some shitty Pokemon thing on it and you'll abandon all your principles.

I'm assuming you're referring to the free product created by Niantic. Therefore I'm morally clean. In this instance.
Author:  Satsuma [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:59 ]
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Ninty are declining to comment on whether NS has a touchscreen but discussed some other crap (*yawn* Amiibo). It's a bit of an odd position but let's be fair, their touchscreens have been garbage compared to the standards on mobile devices.

Links at Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments ... r/.compact
Author:  LewieP [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 13:21 ]
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Their handhelds have also always had low resolution screens and used low spec processors.

Switch has a presumed 720p display, and uses top end nvidia chips.

This is a change in strategy.

They've also used resistive screens in the past because of stylus centric design, but there's no stylus here. I could conceive of Nintendo using a resistive screen again, but not without a stylus.
Author:  lasermink [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 13:55 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
I just want to play the next Mario and Splatoon games - being able to do so on the move or on holiday or at work is just a bonus.

Do you actually play Splatoon?
Author:  myp [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 14:11 ]
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lasermink wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
I just want to play the next Mario and Splatoon games - being able to do so on the move or on holiday or at work is just a bonus.

Do you actually play Splatoon?

Not anymore. :(
Author:  myp [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 15:58 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
I don't think it'll be backwards compatible, sadly.

I was right.
Author:  myp [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 16:22 ]
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Lots of info here: http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1297753
Author:  Grim... [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 16:44 ]
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Three hours battery isn't great :/
Author:  Jem [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 16:49 ]
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3hrs battery..

Ugh. Maybe not then. :(
Author:  myp [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 16:53 ]
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Laura is getting clarification on what that means. Max load or average use. It's come from the Ubisoft source so :shrug:

For comparison a 3DS is 3-5 hours.
Author:  Jem [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 17:00 ]
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I don't have a 3DS so don't have that to compare but I'm sure I used to get way longer than 3 hours out of the DS.
Author:  LewieP [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 17:00 ]
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I believe that 3 hours refers to a devkit rather than a final retail console, the final console could have better battery life. Either by the final components being more power efficient, or by it having a larger battery.
Author:  myp [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 17:03 ]
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Let's also remember that if you want a portable that runs current gen games, it's going to use a lot of power... the most important thing for me is that it uses the microUSB standard. Nintendo don't have a good history with that.
Author:  Jem [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 17:06 ]
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TBH having sad-faced at the 3 hour battery life I have tried to think of the last time I tried to play a game on the go and can't think of when it would be. I'm reactively poo-pooing it because it sounds pants but it would probably be irrelevant to me.
Author:  myp [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 17:08 ]
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Jem wrote:
TBH having sad-faced at the 3 hour battery life I have tried to think of the last time I tried to play a game on the go and can't think of when it would be. I'm reactively poo-pooing it because it sounds pants but it would probably be irrelevant to me.

You could play it while reactively poo-pooing, that's for sure. You don't take 3 hours doing that.
Author:  LewieP [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 17:21 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
Let's also remember that if you want a portable that runs current gen games, it's going to use a lot of power... the most important thing for me is that it uses the microUSB standard. Nintendo don't have a good history with that.

Aye, or USB-C would be fine too.

I'm a little worried that they very deliberately didn't show a charging port.
Author:  Hero of Excellence [ Tue Dec 20, 2016 17:48 ]
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To the surprise of literally no-one in the known universe, it seems that the Switch won't exactly be a powerhouse of cutting-edge tech...

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digit ... c-analysis
Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Tue Dec 20, 2016 18:23 ]
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I'm really struggling to see the point of this thing.
Author:  myp [ Tue Dec 20, 2016 19:00 ]
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
I'm really struggling to see the point of this thing.

To play Nintendo games on
Author:  romanista [ Tue Dec 20, 2016 20:15 ]
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Jem wrote:
I don't have a 3DS so don't have that to compare but I'm sure I used to get way longer than 3 hours out of the DS.


I could use the da for a week holiday without a charger. 3ds not a charget. Eapecially on sleep mode it doesn't really sleep
Author:  romanista [ Tue Dec 20, 2016 20:17 ]
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lasermink wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
I just want to play the next Mario and Splatoon games - being able to do so on the move or on holiday or at work is just a bonus.

Do you actually play Splatoon?


My son got the amiibo for sinterklaas. Opening up the challenges which means we play it again. Lovely game
Author:  Hero of Excellence [ Thu Jan 12, 2017 13:24 ]
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All is being unveiled tomorrow morning at 4am our time...
Author:  romanista [ Thu Jan 12, 2017 20:53 ]
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It has all be revealed.. https://www.amazon.co.uk/review/R2D6PQO ... ul.Reviews
Author:  romanista [ Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:12 ]
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one big disappointment that reveal http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017- ... ive-report\
Author:  TheVision [ Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:34 ]
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That reporting is terrible!
Author:  LewieP [ Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:51 ]
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I think they've fucked it.
Author:  Hearthly [ Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:54 ]
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So it's £280 with paid online for what is very much 'last-gen' tech (at best), and no bundled in game by all accounts, I do not predict great things.

Apparently you get a SNES or NES game every month with the online service (whatever that may cost), although it seems slightly ambiguous as to if the game is only available for that month and then disappears.

Battery life when used as a portable quoted as '2.5 to 6.5' hours.....

Not many actual games to look at either.
Author:  TheVision [ Fri Jan 13, 2017 8:56 ]
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Yeah I know, sounds great doesn't it?

I've ordered one.
Author:  Grim... [ Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:05 ]
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Bah. I was thinking of picking one of these up so I could get me some Mario, but it looks like that will be too expensive :(
Author:  Hero of Excellence [ Fri Jan 13, 2017 9:59 ]
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£280 and no bundled game? No thanks.
Author:  TheVision [ Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:28 ]
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I had some money from my folks and did a foreigner for one of the businesses I work with the other day so that's this paid for. It's almost like I'm getting it for free!

In my mind, I feel like I missed out on the Wii U and I absolutely love my 3DS so I'm not scared to jump on the Nintendo bandwagon again. This will be great, I'm sure of it.
Author:  Curiosity [ Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:30 ]
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How much do you get for doing a foreigner in this Post-Brexit world?
Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:35 ]
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Fuck you Nintendo :DD
Author:  myp [ Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:45 ]
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Curiosity wrote:
How much do you get for doing a foreigner in this Post-Brexit world?

Ask Farage.

I still want one, but I'm probably going to wait for the inevitable Christmas price cut and to see what games are out by then.
Author:  asfish [ Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:47 ]
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Hearthly wrote:
So it's £280 with paid online for what is very much 'last-gen' tech (at best), and no bundled in game by all accounts, I do not predict great things.

Apparently you get a SNES or NES game every month with the online service (whatever that may cost), although it seems slightly ambiguous as to if the game is only available for that month and then disappears.

Battery life when used as a portable quoted as '2.5 to 6.5' hours.....

Not many actual games to look at either.


Accessories are pricey as well according to the BBC, £57.50 for a pro controller, additional Joy-Con Controllers are £60 and spare docks are pushing £70.
Author:  TheVision [ Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:49 ]
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Yeah, I just saw this. Most of those items aren't a necessity though but I would like one of the pro controllers... I think... Actually, I can see me using this as a mobile platform more than anything so now I think about it, I'm not sure I'll need one.
Author:  myp [ Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:52 ]
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Yeah, you wouldn't need a spare dock in most use cases. Pro controller is about the same price as the DS4s were at launch.
Author:  Hero of Excellence [ Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:52 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
How much do you get for doing a foreigner in this Post-Brexit world?

Ask Farage.

I still want one, but I'm probably going to wait for the inevitable Christmas price cut and to see what games are out by then.

Who's to say there will even be a December price cut if the Pound crashes even harder? :(
Author:  myp [ Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:58 ]
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Hero of Excellence wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
How much do you get for doing a foreigner in this Post-Brexit world?

Ask Farage.

I still want one, but I'm probably going to wait for the inevitable Christmas price cut and to see what games are out by then.

Who's to say there will even be a December price cut if the Pound crashes even harder? :(

I guess it all depends if they want to sell any or not.
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