Cartridges? What is this, the 80s?
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 15:45 ] |
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Of course you're not streaming games, that's clearly nonsense. (Plus the video shows it being used on a plane.) |
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| Author: | myp [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 15:47 ] |
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Of course you're not streaming games, that's clearly nonsense. (Plus the video shows it being used on a plane.) I was being polite. |
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| Author: | Jem [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 15:56 ] |
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Ahhhh this the first Nintendo console that's caught my attention since the Wii. Wanty want want. |
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| Author: | GazChap [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 16:15 ] |
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Cartridges? What is this, the 80s?
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| Author: | Jem [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 16:17 ] |
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GazChap wrote: Cartridges? What is this, the 80s? If your fashion sense is anything to go by... yes. 
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 16:18 ] |
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Jem wrote: GazChap wrote: Cartridges? What is this, the 80s? If your fashion sense is anything to go by... yes. 
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| Author: | myp [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 16:24 ] |
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GazChap wrote: Cartridges? What is this, the 80s? At least they'll last, unlike games that come on discs. |
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| Author: | Goddess Jasmine [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 16:36 ] |
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It doesn't look very comfortable to hold. |
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| Author: | myp [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 16:37 ] |
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Goddess Jasmine wrote: It doesn't look very comfortable to hold. Too easy. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 16:39 ] |
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Lonewolves wrote: Goddess Jasmine wrote: It doesn't look very comfortable to hold. Too easy. Too easy. |
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| Author: | Goddess Jasmine [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 16:40 ] |
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Lonewolves wrote: Goddess Jasmine wrote: It doesn't look very comfortable to hold. Too easy. Too easy. Where's the infinity symbol when you need it? |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 16:41 ] |
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Goddess Jasmine wrote: Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Lonewolves wrote: Goddess Jasmine wrote: It doesn't look very comfortable to hold. Too easy. Too easy. Where's the infinity symbol when you need it? Here it is. You dropped it ∞ edit... it's tiny (too easy) ∞ |
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| Author: | LewieP [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 16:47 ] |
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GazChap wrote: Cartridges? What is this, the 80s? What would be preferable for a portable? Optical media? What is this, the 90s? It's flash based storage which is low power, has quick transfer rates, and has potentially large capacity. |
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| Author: | Pundabaya [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 17:35 ] |
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Looks pretty stupid to me. |
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| Author: | lasermink [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 17:44 ] |
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Lonewolves wrote: Findus Fop wrote: I think it looks brilliant and could be the first Nintendo 'home' console I get (especially if it has Wii backwards compatibility). I spend much of my week commuting, so something like this would be splendid. Though that very much depends on it not requiring an internet signal while out and about. My 4G is too patchy to watch Netflix consistently, let alone stream a game. I don't think it'll be backwards compatible, sadly. Also the cartridges seem to be in the handheld bit, so I don't think you'll have to stream games. I think it would almost certainly be compatible with games bought through download, although Nintendo will probably require you to do a one time, one way only, account transfer, knowing them. It is shown running the Zelda game that's (hopefully still) coming for Wii U. Edit: Oh wait, he said Wii compatible. That one is uncertain. Actually, it is unlikely to support the Wii controllers. |
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| Author: | lasermink [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 18:17 ] |
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Hmm, there is speculation that it might not even have a touch screen, since it has to work while docked, so maybe it won't in fact be backwards compatible at all. |
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| Author: | Bluecup [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 18:18 ] |
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As a home console, isn't it a step back from the Wii U? Yes, you can take this out and have LAN parties. But sitting on your bum at home, at the moment, this does less. |
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| Author: | TheVision [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 18:20 ] |
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Bluecup wrote: As a home console, isn't it a step back from the Wii U? Yes, you can take this out and have LAN parties. But sitting on your bum at home, at the moment, this does less. It's the games that matter. My Xbox one does all manner of things but I'm not enjoying it as much as I enjoyed my 360. |
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| Author: | lasermink [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 18:22 ] |
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The way I see it, Nintendo is basically asking people to bring this thing with them instead of their regular tablet. I can't really see that happening, unless it runs Android (and does indeed support touch) or something. |
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| Author: | TheVision [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 18:26 ] |
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I see this as a replacement to my 3DS or DS that pretty much go everywhere with me. My phone does all the tablet stuff so this would be just for playing games. |
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| Author: | GazChap [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 19:23 ] |
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LewieP wrote: GazChap wrote: Cartridges? What is this, the 80s? What would be preferable for a portable? Optical media? Why not something like an SD card, or a mini SD card or something. Or just have internal flash storage, I imagine it'd be cheap enough - no need to load it up like Apple do with the iPhone (i.e. £100 for 16GB extra type markups) I assume piracy is the reason, but surely there are ways of preventing (or hindering) piracy on SD cards by now. |
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| Author: | Goddess Jasmine [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 19:49 ] |
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TheVision wrote: Bluecup wrote: As a home console, isn't it a step back from the Wii U? Yes, you can take this out and have LAN parties. But sitting on your bum at home, at the moment, this does less. It's the games that matter. My Xbox one does all manner of things but I'm not enjoying it as much as I enjoyed my 360. That's because you're missing bezzies. Get a PS4. 
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| Author: | Bobbyaro [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 20:20 ] |
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Looks impressive, the gimmick of the detachable sides etc seems to have detracted from the fact they have a hand held device capable of playing skyrim. That's pretty neat. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 20:29 ] |
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As long as it can play it for more than 30 minutes. |
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| Author: | Jem [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 20:52 ] |
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Pundabaya wrote: Looks pretty stupid to me. You shut your whore mouth. |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 21:13 ] |
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My sides have split detached. |
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| Author: | LewieP [ Thu Oct 20, 2016 23:48 ] |
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GazChap wrote: LewieP wrote: GazChap wrote: Cartridges? What is this, the 80s? What would be preferable for a portable? Optical media? Why not something like an SD card, or a mini SD card or something. Or just have internal flash storage, I imagine it'd be cheap enough - no need to load it up like Apple do with the iPhone (i.e. £100 for 16GB extra type markups) I assume piracy is the reason, but surely there are ways of preventing (or hindering) piracy on SD cards by now. It will have SD (or perhaps MicroSD) card support. The cartridges are just for games you want to buy physically rather than as downloads. The DSi, Wii, 3DS and Wii U have all supported SD or MicroSD cards. Having a slot for proprietary memory cards sold with games on them doesn't prevent having support for SD/MicroSD cards. It will probably have some internal flash memory too. Yes lots of people (myself included) would prefer to download games these days, but removing the option of a physical copy is not desirable, and would lose them a lot of money. Edit: I suspect it will operate in much the same way as the 3DS does. No one seemed to have any problem with that. |
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| Author: | lasermink [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:15 ] |
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According to Ars, the Switch uses a CPU that is entirely incompatible with the one in Wii U (which I guess has been known for a while but I wasn't aware), meaning backwards compatibility is completely out of the question. So no touch, no motion control, no backwards compatibility, but still less powerful than the current gen, and that's not even including the new updates from Sony and Microsoft. They are really banking on the belief that people are craving a mobile gaming platform with proper controls. |
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:26 ] |
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And also banking on the fact that the Star Point scandal has been swept under the carpet. |
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| Author: | GazChap [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:40 ] |
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I can't wait to join an online game with my friend NintendoPlayer64, once I've received his 16-character friend code that is
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| Author: | markg [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:41 ] |
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Zardoz wrote: And also banking on the fact that the Star Point scandal has been swept under the carpet. Nah, they'll just put some shitty Pokemon thing on it and you'll abandon all your principles.
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| Author: | Satsuma [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:49 ] |
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lasermink wrote: According to Ars, the Switch uses a CPU that is entirely incompatible with the one in Wii U (which I guess has been known for a while but I wasn't aware), meaning backwards compatibility is completely out of the question. So no touch, no motion control, no backwards compatibility, but still less powerful than the current gen, and that's not even including the new updates from Sony and Microsoft. They are really banking on the belief that people are craving a mobile gaming platform with proper controls. No forward facing camera either! Noooooooo. |
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| Author: | myp [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:53 ] |
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I just want to play the next Mario and Splatoon games - being able to do so on the move or on holiday or at work is just a bonus. |
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| Author: | Bobbyaro [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:56 ] |
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I have never played a Mario game. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:56 ] |
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Bobbyaro wrote: I have never played a Mario game. whut |
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| Author: | KovacsC [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 11:57 ] |
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Goddess Jasmine wrote: TheVision wrote: Bluecup wrote: As a home console, isn't it a step back from the Wii U? Yes, you can take this out and have LAN parties. But sitting on your bum at home, at the moment, this does less. It's the games that matter. My Xbox one does all manner of things but I'm not enjoying it as much as I enjoyed my 360. That's because you're missing bezzies. Get a PS4. Yes Ma'am |
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| Author: | LewieP [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:03 ] |
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lasermink wrote: According to Ars, the Switch uses a CPU that is entirely incompatible with the one in Wii U (which I guess has been known for a while but I wasn't aware), meaning backwards compatibility is completely out of the question. So no touch, no motion control, no backwards compatibility, but still less powerful than the current gen, and that's not even including the new updates from Sony and Microsoft. They are really banking on the belief that people are craving a mobile gaming platform with proper controls. Where are you getting "no touch" from? I am fairly certain they are just not talking about touch yet, because the main thing that distinguishes it from for example a tablet is the physical controls. I also doubt they'll be letting games require touch controls, so that they can ensure games will work when in docked mode on the tv. Same applies to motion control. Just because the people in the trailer didn't demonstrate any waggle doesn't mean it's not supported. It's a shame there's no BC, but the PPC architecture has been an albatross around Nintendo's neck for a while now. They needed to move to a more modern architecture, and this means they can just develop one library of software rather than segregating their software output between a handheld and a home console. I'm interested to see if Nintendo are doing any kind of free upgrade/discount for owners of the Wii U versions of the games which appear to be getting Switch versions with new features (both Splatoon and Mario Kart appear to be based on the Wii U versions, but also have new features not present in the Wii U versions). |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:05 ] |
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LewieP wrote: Where are you getting "no touch" from? From the fact that it spends half its life inside a box across the living room from you, I suspect. |
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| Author: | LewieP [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:12 ] |
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Grim... wrote: LewieP wrote: Where are you getting "no touch" from? From the fact that it spends half its life inside a box across the living room from you, I suspect. Why does that mean it can't have a touchscreen for those times when it isn't docked? If nothing else, Nintendo will probably want to do a new version of Mario Maker, which was hugely successful on Wii U despite the small install base. The cost of doing a touchscreen versus not doing a touchscreen is tiny for a device this size. I'd generally assume that any device released in 2017 with a screen close enough for you to touch would be a touchscreen. Hell, Nintendo have been putting touch screens in things since 2004. |
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| Author: | Satsuma [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:14 ] |
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http://m.imgur.com/a/FSHaK Someone has done mockups of different colours which look much better than that sodding grey. |
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| Author: | myp [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:15 ] |
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Saturnalian wrote: http://m.imgur.com/a/FSHaK Someone has done mockups of different colours which look much better than that sodding grey. It's the classic N64 colour you Nintendo philistine. -edit- some of those look great though. 
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:32 ] |
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markg wrote: Zardoz wrote: And also banking on the fact that the Star Point scandal has been swept under the carpet. Nah, they'll just put some shitty Pokemon thing on it and you'll abandon all your principles.I'm assuming you're referring to the free product created by Niantic. Therefore I'm morally clean. In this instance. |
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| Author: | Satsuma [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 12:59 ] |
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Ninty are declining to comment on whether NS has a touchscreen but discussed some other crap (*yawn* Amiibo). It's a bit of an odd position but let's be fair, their touchscreens have been garbage compared to the standards on mobile devices. Links at Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments ... r/.compact |
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| Author: | LewieP [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 13:21 ] |
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Their handhelds have also always had low resolution screens and used low spec processors. Switch has a presumed 720p display, and uses top end nvidia chips. This is a change in strategy. They've also used resistive screens in the past because of stylus centric design, but there's no stylus here. I could conceive of Nintendo using a resistive screen again, but not without a stylus. |
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| Author: | lasermink [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 13:55 ] |
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Lonewolves wrote: I just want to play the next Mario and Splatoon games - being able to do so on the move or on holiday or at work is just a bonus. Do you actually play Splatoon? |
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| Author: | myp [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 14:11 ] |
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lasermink wrote: Lonewolves wrote: I just want to play the next Mario and Splatoon games - being able to do so on the move or on holiday or at work is just a bonus. Do you actually play Splatoon? Not anymore. 
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| Author: | myp [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 15:58 ] |
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Lonewolves wrote: I don't think it'll be backwards compatible, sadly. I was right. |
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| Author: | myp [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 16:22 ] |
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Lots of info here: http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1297753 |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 16:44 ] |
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Three hours battery isn't great :/ |
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| Author: | Jem [ Fri Oct 21, 2016 16:49 ] |
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3hrs battery.. Ugh. Maybe not then.
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