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 Post subject: Re: Denuvo
PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 14:26 
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No. I read it so it must be true.


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 Post subject: Re: Denuvo
PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 14:27 
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No. I read it so it must be true.


It's only true if you saw it on YouTube.


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 Post subject: Re: Denuvo
PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 14:39 
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[ Also a lot of our current games need multiplayer servers to even allow you to experience them properly so that's another problem right there. Relying on piracy or companies being generous with GOG releases is never going to work so the problem is a lot bigger than whatever the current DRM is doing.


I agree and find it fascinating when people reverse engineer these old systems to make them work now

There are small groups of people who reverse engineer and get these old games up and running on current hardware - I saw a story recently which i will dig out of people who had reverse engineered an old online Star Wars game so you could play it now even though the servers had gone offline years ago

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The video game industry is terrible at archiving what it makes, so we’re left with fans picking up where companies leave off. This is especially complicated with online games, in which key components—like, say, the way servers work—are never released to the public. And yet, through a little luck and sheer determination, groups have brought “dead” games like Star Wars Galaxies back to life. In the case of a EverQuest, the developers even signed onto the project!


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 Post subject: Re: Denuvo
PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 22:29 
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Talking about the video game industry being terrible at archiving games, apparently Sega have lost the original files to Panzer Dragoon saga. It seems unlikely that they'll ever be a re-release which is a damn shame.


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 Post subject: Re: Denuvo
PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2016 22:50 
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Talking about the video game industry being terrible at archiving games, apparently Sega have lost the original files to Panzer Dragoon saga. It seems unlikely that they'll ever be a re-release which is a damn shame.


Tatio have also lost the source code to Bubble Bobble

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bubble_Bobble

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In 1996, Taito announced that they lost the original source code.


Not specifically games related but when whoever it was (some part of Sega?) took over Barcrest they just binned all the 'old' stuff regardless of its historical significance


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 Post subject: Re: Denuvo
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 22:19 
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Well it's taken almost forever but Denuvo protection has been cracked. Apparently it involves fooling Steam into thinking you are running a demo.

How long it will last though is a mystery. Quite a few times 3DM thought they had cracked Just Cause 3 (and released numerous cracks for it) but every time it was killed within 24 hours. But yeah, Doom and ROTTR are now cracked.

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 Post subject: Re: Denuvo
PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 2:44 
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Just under eighteen months. Not bad, but Sky are still pissing themselves.

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 Post subject: Re: Denuvo
PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 9:18 
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Just under eighteen months. Not bad, but Sky are still pissing themselves.


I have no idea what Sky has to do with DRM on videogames being cracked.


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 Post subject: Re: Denuvo
PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 11:51 
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Just under eighteen months. Not bad, but Sky are still pissing themselves.


I have no idea what Sky has to do with DRM on videogames being cracked.

Sky's encryption hasn't been broken yet.

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 Post subject: Re: Denuvo
PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 13:22 
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Just Cause 3 has now been hacked also. So that's pretty much all of them then. Whatever it is the hackers have worked out it seems to work on all of the titles.

Ah, it's the same demo version workaround. I expect Steam to update itself at some point today then and they'll be back to where they were yesterday. That's the issue with this hack, it requires a live version of Steam using a fake account. And I can bet there's plenty of divvies out there who forgot to use a fake IP who will probably lose their actual Steam accounts too. Could quite possibly be a blanket ban, like back in the days of the 360.

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 Post subject: Re: Denuvo
PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 13:27 
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Grim... wrote:
Sky's encryption hasn't been broken yet.


How come there are all these Chinese boxes going round that cost like £70 or something and have all the Sky stuff on them (and loads else) except the HD channels? (HD encryption is not cracked I believe?)

I don't have one because I don't watch telly, but I know of several people who have availed themselves of one from the local chap who supplies such things.


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 Post subject: Re: Denuvo
PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 13:35 
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Sky's encryption hasn't been broken yet.


How come there are all these Chinese boxes going round that cost like £70 or something and have all the Sky stuff on them (and loads else) except the HD channels? (HD encryption is not cracked I believe?)

I don't have one because I don't watch telly, but I know of several people who have availed themselves of one from the local chap who supplies such things.


If they're like the Chinese boxes my uncle almost bought from a shady bloke down the street they are all internet driven boxes? using streaming. They stream from countries abroad like Pakistan and so on.

Or is there an actual satellite box that does it?

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 Post subject: Re: Denuvo
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If they're like the Chinese boxes my uncle almost bought from a shady bloke down the street they are all internet driven boxes? using streaming. They stream from countries abroad like Pakistan and so on.

Or is there an actual satellite box that does it?


You have to one of those LNB wires to plug into it, which is what comes from the dish on your house I think?

There is some sort of card required to plug into it, which costs £20 per year or something, but it gives a complete Sky package and loads of other things. All very dodgy likes.


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 Post subject: Re: Denuvo
PostPosted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 13:42 
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Ah OK I see. Shame I can't have a dish up :D

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 Post subject: Re: Denuvo
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Hearthly wrote:
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If they're like the Chinese boxes my uncle almost bought from a shady bloke down the street they are all internet driven boxes? using streaming. They stream from countries abroad like Pakistan and so on.

Or is there an actual satellite box that does it?


You have to one of those LNB wires to plug into it, which is what comes from the dish on your house I think?

There is some sort of card required to plug into it, which costs £20 per year or something, but it gives a complete Sky package and loads of other things. All very dodgy likes.



Its card sharing, so the guy you get it off buys everything Sky has to offer then sells on Linux based receivers that share his subscription giving you (if you buy one) access to everything. You also need a good speed internet connection.

Quite surprised how blatant this are on Ebay and the internet, guy at work had one and said it was OK. TBH I wouldn't take a full SKY subscription if they paid me.


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 Post subject: Re: Denuvo
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http://www.vice.com/read/hackers-have-f ... ughest-drm

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 Post subject: Re: Denuvo
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https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/article ... ptwitterus

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