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NZB for what looks to be all or most of the comics there is 200 of them!

This got me thinking of other comic runs from that era I really enjoyed and anyone who's got a Marvel Unlimited sub would do well to check out Warren Ellis's shot at Thunderbolts; issues 110 to 121 as far as I can tell. Due to Reasons, Norman Osborn has convinced people he's on the straight and narrow and is put in charge of the Thunderbolts project (a team mostly comprised of super-villains who're looking for redemption and to commute prison sentences by under-taking jobs for the government). Right from the start it's made clear to the reader that, of course, he's still actually completely mental and the run basically catalogues his slow breaks down. This culminates in the final glorious couple of issues which are some of the funniest things I've ever read. This run takes place right after Civil War so would make a good follow up for anyone (re-)reading that because of this thread.

Of course the main reason Civil War didn't work out to plan is that, although the idea was that the pro-Reg side was supposed to be in the right, the marvel writers include a variety of hippies and crackpots who completely ignored this. Of course they were the better writers.

And let's not forget the amount of dumb that came out of the storyline... Penance, Spidey unmasking which led to the stupidest storyline ever, the death of Captain America...

I know very little about the Marvel universe or Civil War, but from what I've read, it all hinges on this Superhuman Registration Act that requires superhumans to make themselves known etc.

Why is Tony Stark included in this?

I know in the comics Iron Man has changed so much and now has the components of his suit embedded into his bones or some stupid shit like that, which obviously would make him superhuman, but movie Iron Man is just a normal man who happens to have a "super" suit, he's hardly got superpowers.

It's super heroes (and villains). Those who are masked vigilantes basically. Super powers don't come into it.

He owns the suit, though (and could build another one if they took it away). And he kills people if he decides they need killing, which I think is the main point.

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His superpower is his off the scale genius mind, no?

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Oh man, so I'm going to need to register too?

Yes, but it's not off the scale in the direction you're thinking.

*nice*

Iron Man is Batman without the angst.

They're both libertarian nut jobs.

And very rich.

So, I've now read the Civl War novelisation (I never really get on with graphic novels), and I have some concerns

1) Aren't they going to need an awful lot more superheroes to make this work? There's supposed to be like 50 of the fuckers involved. The trailers seems to show Falcon, Black Panther, and someone else fairly unidentifiable, and that's it.

2) There's supposed to be no real right and wrong side. The moral ambiguity is a lot of the point - but by making this a captain America film instead of an avengers film aren't they sort of picking a side for you?

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I'm amazed this is even a thing that exists. Who in the hell, apart from you, cares enough about comics to want to know what's going on but doesn't actually like comics?



You need as many superheroes as you've got. The point of it is that it drags in all your existing heroes as it potentially impacts them all. In the comics that means fuckloads. In the films that means as many as you've so far introduced, which isn't very much.



Yeah, I'm not sure how that's going to play out, especially as it'll mean flying in the face of the comics story line. It does make some sort of sense in terms of the established films though in that the last Captain America film was dealing with the corruption of SHIELD and Captain America, as someone who's always championed The System, having that pulled out from under him. This is an extension of that arguably to have him on the wrong side of the law. It also makes sense that they want the actual Avengers films to see them all together fighting some global threat, rather than just squabbling between themselves.

Yo!

Weirdos.

Instead of listening to stuff I usually just buy the sheet music and read it.

Instead of reading books I watch the movies.

Wait.

Instead of playing computer games I watch videos of other people playing them.

GG-fix

Were you a younger brother growing up, by any chance?

Yep. Youngest

That'll be it then.

I generally watch at least a few minutes of everything Jim Sterling puts up on YouTube but I only watch all of it if it's something entertainingly shite, I'm not interested in watching him play proper decent games as I'd rather be doing that myself.

I could watch someone play video games for hours.

I watched a playthough of Xenon 2 a little while back. It was lovely.

Who is bottom right?

Starlord

Who?

Ta

Star-Lord, man! The legendary outlaw?

I wasn't entirely sure if it was a serious question, as it was quite meta

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MrsA texted me asking the question. I don't know why she couldn't open the book.

I don't know how it wasn't a joke.

MrsA was joking Malia, Malia was joking us, Cras was joking me.

Jokes all the way down.

Success has many fathers.