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Author:  Curiosity [ Wed Nov 25, 2015 16:53 ]
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Why? Is it rubbish?
Author:  myp [ Wed Nov 25, 2015 16:54 ]
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Curiosity wrote:
Why? Is it rubbish?

Grim... wrote:
The recommended Marvel Reading order used to omit Civil War #5. Which was presumably a mistake, not that they didn't like that issue.
Author:  Grim... [ Wed Nov 25, 2015 16:55 ]
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Future Warrior wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
Why? Is it rubbish?

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:shrug:
Author:  myp [ Wed Nov 25, 2015 16:56 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Future Warrior wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
Why? Is it rubbish?

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:shrug:

My quote fu is weak today.
Author:  Curiosity [ Wed Nov 25, 2015 16:58 ]
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Future Warrior wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
Why? Is it rubbish?

Grim... wrote:
The recommended Marvel Reading order used to omit Civil War #5. Which was presumably a mistake, not that they didn't like that issue.


He edited in the reason after my post.
Author:  myp [ Wed Nov 25, 2015 17:04 ]
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Grim... wrote:
The recommended Marvel Reading order used to omit Civil War #5. Which was presumably a mistake, not that they didn't like that issue.

It's listed here as number 59. I'd better get cracking.
Author:  Pundabaya [ Wed Nov 25, 2015 18:28 ]
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Basically, everyone sided with Cap in the comics run, because Cap has always been popular in the print medium and Stark being a dick. Stark's side was presented as being the right one.

Everyone will side with Stark in the movies because Downey Jr playing Stark is about 18 billion times more entertaining than thingy whatsitsface's Cap. Cap will be presented as being right, because it's not called Iron Man: Civil War.
Author:  myp [ Wed Nov 25, 2015 18:30 ]
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Pundabaya wrote:
Stark's side was presented as being the right one.

Did I read a different comic to everyone else or what
Author:  Pundabaya [ Wed Nov 25, 2015 18:36 ]
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Cap turns himself in and states he was wrong!
Author:  Grim... [ Wed Nov 25, 2015 18:37 ]
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SPOILZ
Author:  myp [ Wed Nov 25, 2015 18:51 ]
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Pundabaya wrote:
ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
Cap turns himself in and states he was wrong!

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
Yeah but did he actually really believe that though, or was he doing it for the greater good?
Author:  asfish [ Wed Nov 25, 2015 20:01 ]
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NZB for what looks to be all or most of the comics there is 200 of them!
Author:  Bamba [ Wed Nov 25, 2015 20:25 ]
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This got me thinking of other comic runs from that era I really enjoyed and anyone who's got a Marvel Unlimited sub would do well to check out Warren Ellis's shot at Thunderbolts; issues 110 to 121 as far as I can tell. Due to Reasons, Norman Osborn has convinced people he's on the straight and narrow and is put in charge of the Thunderbolts project (a team mostly comprised of super-villains who're looking for redemption and to commute prison sentences by under-taking jobs for the government). Right from the start it's made clear to the reader that, of course, he's still actually completely mental and the run basically catalogues his slow breaks down. This culminates in the final glorious couple of issues which are some of the funniest things I've ever read. This run takes place right after Civil War so would make a good follow up for anyone (re-)reading that because of this thread.
Author:  Pundabaya [ Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:47 ]
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Of course the main reason Civil War didn't work out to plan is that, although the idea was that the pro-Reg side was supposed to be in the right, the marvel writers include a variety of hippies and crackpots who completely ignored this. Of course they were the better writers.

And let's not forget the amount of dumb that came out of the storyline... Penance, Spidey unmasking which led to the stupidest storyline ever, the death of Captain America...
Author:  GazChap [ Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:33 ]
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I know very little about the Marvel universe or Civil War, but from what I've read, it all hinges on this Superhuman Registration Act that requires superhumans to make themselves known etc.

Why is Tony Stark included in this?

I know in the comics Iron Man has changed so much and now has the components of his suit embedded into his bones or some stupid shit like that, which obviously would make him superhuman, but movie Iron Man is just a normal man who happens to have a "super" suit, he's hardly got superpowers.
Author:  myp [ Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:34 ]
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It's super heroes (and villains). Those who are masked vigilantes basically. Super powers don't come into it.
Author:  Grim... [ Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:35 ]
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GazChap wrote:
I know in the comics Iron Man has changed so much and now has the components of his suit embedded into his bones or some stupid shit like that, which obviously would make him superhuman, but movie Iron Man is just a normal man who happens to have a "super" suit, he's hardly got superpowers.

He owns the suit, though (and could build another one if they took it away). And he kills people if he decides they need killing, which I think is the main point.

[edit] o/
Author:  Trooper [ Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:36 ]
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His superpower is his off the scale genius mind, no?
Author:  myp [ Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:37 ]
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Grim... wrote:
[edit] o/

\o
Author:  Curiosity [ Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:22 ]
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Trooper wrote:
His superpower is his off the scale genius mind, no?


Oh man, so I'm going to need to register too?
Author:  myp [ Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:25 ]
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Curiosity wrote:
Trooper wrote:
His superpower is his off the scale genius mind, no?


Oh man, so I'm going to need to register too?

Yes, but it's not off the scale in the direction you're thinking.
Author:  MaliA [ Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:28 ]
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Future Warrior wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
Trooper wrote:
His superpower is his off the scale genius mind, no?


Oh man, so I'm going to need to register too?

Yes, but it's not off the scale in the direction you're thinking.


*nice*
Author:  DavPaz [ Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:30 ]
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Iron Man is Batman without the angst.
Author:  myp [ Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:33 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
Iron Man is Batman without the angst.

They're both libertarian nut jobs.
Author:  Grim... [ Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:40 ]
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Future Warrior wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
Iron Man is Batman without the angst.

They're both libertarian nut jobs.

And very rich.
Author:  Cras [ Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:34 ]
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So, I've now read the Civl War novelisation (I never really get on with graphic novels), and I have some concerns

1) Aren't they going to need an awful lot more superheroes to make this work? There's supposed to be like 50 of the fuckers involved. The trailers seems to show Falcon, Black Panther, and someone else fairly unidentifiable, and that's it.

2) There's supposed to be no real right and wrong side. The moral ambiguity is a lot of the point - but by making this a captain America film instead of an avengers film aren't they sort of picking a side for you?
Author:  myp [ Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:39 ]
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Cras wrote:
2) There's supposed to be no real right and wrong side.

THANK YOU
Author:  Bamba [ Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:59 ]
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Cras wrote:
So, I've now read the Civl War novelisation (I never really get on with graphic novels)


I'm amazed this is even a thing that exists. Who in the hell, apart from you, cares enough about comics to want to know what's going on but doesn't actually like comics?

Cras wrote:
1) Aren't they going to need an awful lot more superheroes to make this work? There's supposed to be like 50 of the fuckers involved. The trailers seems to show Falcon, Black Panther, and someone else fairly unidentifiable, and that's it.


You need as many superheroes as you've got. The point of it is that it drags in all your existing heroes as it potentially impacts them all. In the comics that means fuckloads. In the films that means as many as you've so far introduced, which isn't very much.

Cras wrote:
2) There's supposed to be no real right and wrong side. The moral ambiguity is a lot of the point - but by making this a captain America film instead of an avengers film aren't they sort of picking a side for you?


Yeah, I'm not sure how that's going to play out, especially as it'll mean flying in the face of the comics story line. It does make some sort of sense in terms of the established films though in that the last Captain America film was dealing with the corruption of SHIELD and Captain America, as someone who's always championed The System, having that pulled out from under him. This is an extension of that arguably to have him on the wrong side of the law. It also makes sense that they want the actual Avengers films to see them all together fighting some global threat, rather than just squabbling between themselves.
Author:  MaliA [ Fri Nov 27, 2015 13:01 ]
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Bamba wrote:
Cras wrote:
So, I've now read the Civl War novelisation (I never really get on with graphic novels)


I'm amazed this is even a thing that exists. Who in the hell, apart from you, cares enough about comics to want to know what's going on but doesn't actually like comics?




Yo!
Author:  myp [ Fri Nov 27, 2015 13:03 ]
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Weirdos.
Author:  Bamba [ Fri Nov 27, 2015 13:06 ]
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Instead of listening to stuff I usually just buy the sheet music and read it.
Author:  myp [ Fri Nov 27, 2015 13:16 ]
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Bamba wrote:
Instead of listening to stuff I usually just buy the sheet music and read it.

Instead of reading books I watch the movies.

Wait.
Author:  Bamba [ Fri Nov 27, 2015 13:20 ]
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Future Warrior wrote:
Bamba wrote:
Instead of listening to stuff I usually just buy the sheet music and read it.

Instead of reading books I watch the movies.

Wait.


Instead of playing computer games I watch videos of other people playing them.
Author:  myp [ Fri Nov 27, 2015 13:22 ]
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Bamba wrote:
Instead of playing computer games I watch videos of other people shouting about feminists.

GG-fix
Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Nov 27, 2015 14:26 ]
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Bamba wrote:
Future Warrior wrote:
Bamba wrote:
Instead of listening to stuff I usually just buy the sheet music and read it.

Instead of reading books I watch the movies.

Wait.


Instead of playing computer games I watch videos of other people playing them.

I do this all the time
Author:  myp [ Fri Nov 27, 2015 14:27 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
I do this all the time

Were you a younger brother growing up, by any chance?
Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Nov 27, 2015 14:28 ]
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Future Warrior wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
I do this all the time

Were you a younger brother growing up, by any chance?

Yep. Youngest
Author:  myp [ Fri Nov 27, 2015 14:29 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
Future Warrior wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
I do this all the time

Were you a younger brother growing up, by any chance?

Yep. Youngest

That'll be it then. :D
Author:  Bamba [ Fri Nov 27, 2015 15:19 ]
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I generally watch at least a few minutes of everything Jim Sterling puts up on YouTube but I only watch all of it if it's something entertainingly shite, I'm not interested in watching him play proper decent games as I'd rather be doing that myself.
Author:  Grim... [ Fri Nov 27, 2015 15:20 ]
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I could watch someone play video games for hours.

I watched a playthough of Xenon 2 a little while back. It was lovely.
Author:  MaliA [ Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:21 ]
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Who is bottom right?
Author:  Trooper [ Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:24 ]
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Starlord
Author:  Cras [ Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:25 ]
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Trooper wrote:
Starlord


Who?
Author:  MaliA [ Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:29 ]
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Trooper wrote:
Starlord


Ta
Author:  Bamba [ Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:46 ]
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Cras wrote:
Trooper wrote:
Starlord


Who?


Star-Lord, man! The legendary outlaw?
Author:  Trooper [ Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:48 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Trooper wrote:
Starlord


Ta


I wasn't entirely sure if it was a serious question, as it was quite meta :D
Author:  Cras [ Fri Jan 29, 2016 10:48 ]
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Bamba wrote:
Cras wrote:
Trooper wrote:
Starlord


Who?


Star-Lord, man! The legendary outlaw?


\o
Author:  Bamba [ Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:19 ]
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Cras wrote:
Bamba wrote:
Cras wrote:
Trooper wrote:
Starlord


Who?


Star-Lord, man! The legendary outlaw?


\o


o/
Author:  MaliA [ Fri Jan 29, 2016 11:21 ]
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Trooper wrote:
MaliA wrote:
Trooper wrote:
Starlord


Ta


I wasn't entirely sure if it was a serious question, as it was quite meta :D


MrsA texted me asking the question. I don't know why she couldn't open the book.
Author:  Grim... [ Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:05 ]
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I don't know how it wasn't a joke.
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