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 Post subject: Let's play Left 4 Dead
PostPosted: Tue Sep 29, 2015 13:28 
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There are many games better than L4D2, starting with L4D1.


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 Post subject: Re: Edge Top 100
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
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It split the userbase into losers and winners, yes. Even if it wasn't a genuine sequel and was effectively just a map pack, that still has the same effect on the userbase.

The maps are worse, though. And the new mechanics (special undead, melee weapons, chainsaws with fuel, refuelling the car) are all OK in isolation but in totality they do more to clutter up the clean design of the original than they do to keep it fresh.

More isn't always better.

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 Post subject: Re: Edge Top 100
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To be honest L4D2 would be in my top ten of ever, if I'm being honest.

Not only because it was the first online co op game I ever played but also because of the hours I've pumped into it. The modded maps just gave you an endless supply of greatness.

I would probably say top three? oo, that's a touch one. Fallout 3 would be number one, closely followed by either Half Life 2 or Mario 64 (because it was the game that made 3D platforming work).

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 Post subject: Re: Edge Top 100
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I am not sure I would replay CoD4 if it were released with updated graphics though.


I'd play the multiplayer for sure. The campaign is clearly the best of the entire CoD with great levels, pacing and drama. It even had a "follow the NPC" that wasn't a load of tedious bollocks (did it start this trend? Just about).


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 Post subject: Re: Edge Top 100
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
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It split the userbase into losers and winners, yes. Even if it wasn't a genuine sequel and was effectively just a map pack, that still has the same effect on the userbase.

The maps are worse, though. And the new mechanics (special undead, melee weapons, chainsaws with fuel, refuelling the car) are all OK in isolation but in totality they do more to clutter up the clean design of the original than they do to keep it fresh.

More isn't always better.

The only new special undead is the spitter, isn't it? I've not played for a long time :(

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 Post subject: Re: Edge Top 100
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Grim... wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
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It split the userbase into losers and winners, yes. Even if it wasn't a genuine sequel and was effectively just a map pack, that still has the same effect on the userbase.

The maps are worse, though. And the new mechanics (special undead, melee weapons, chainsaws with fuel, refuelling the car) are all OK in isolation but in totality they do more to clutter up the clean design of the original than they do to keep it fresh.

More isn't always better.

The only new special undead is the spitter, isn't it? I've not played for a long time :(

I've been playing L4D1 a bit recently and it's amazing.

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 Post subject: Re: Edge Top 100
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Both are amazing. I prefer 2, but I wouldn't shun 1 in any way.

I've got no Gold any more, but I'd happily pay £6 if we played L4D (either of them) a few times this month.

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 Post subject: Re: Edge Top 100
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Make this happen! I'll play!


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 Post subject: Re: Edge Top 100
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Grim... wrote:
Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Cras wrote:

It split the userbase into losers and winners, yes. Even if it wasn't a genuine sequel and was effectively just a map pack, that still has the same effect on the userbase.

The maps are worse, though. And the new mechanics (special undead, melee weapons, chainsaws with fuel, refuelling the car) are all OK in isolation but in totality they do more to clutter up the clean design of the original than they do to keep it fresh.

More isn't always better.

The only new special undead is the spitter, isn't it? I've not played for a long time :(


Jockey and Charger too.

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 Post subject: Re: Edge Top 100
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Hmm - I may have traded L4D1 in. I'll have to look on my self. I know I kept L4D2, maybe I kept both.

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 Post subject: Re: Edge Top 100
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Let's just play on Steam instead. It's been £2 in sales before - no excuse not to own it. Plus it'll run on an Amstrad calculator.

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 Post subject: Re: Edge Top 100
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Let's just play on Steam instead. It's been £2 in sales before - no excuse not to own it. Plus it'll run on an Amstrad calculator.

I never bought them on Steam, because I didn't think anyone here would be interested in playing together on PC. I'll buy either of them if this would actually happen, though.


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 Post subject: Re: Edge Top 100
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What's the voice chat like on Steam? I've never used it.


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 Post subject: Re: Edge Top 100
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Can I suggest splitting out the L4D 'play' talk into another thread

I have L4D1 & 2 on 360 and steam and will play any


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 Post subject: Re: Edge Top 100
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What's the voice chat like on Steam? I've never used it.


Not so good. I always use Skype.

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 Post subject: Re: Edge Top 100
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What's the voice chat like on Steam? I've never used it.

Variable, inflexible, but usually usable.

There's a reason I spend a bit more for a teamspeak server, however.


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 Post subject: Re: Edge Top 100
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I shall split the thread when I get home later on... If no one else does it first of course.


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 Post subject: Re: Edge Top 100
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I reckon I've got one or both of the Left 4 Deads on PC. Factamundo.


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 Post subject: Re: Let's play Left 4 Dead
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 Post subject: Re: Let's play Left 4 Dead
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And it goes quiet again - okay lets see what can be done with this because i'm sure enough people would play if we can just agree when and on what platform.

If you are interested in playing Left 4 Dead reply back to this thread with :

Versions you have -(Xbox / Steam Windows / Steam OSX - question does anyone know if you can cross play with Windows and OSX ? - confirmed yes
What version you would prefer to play (may have an impact if you don't have Xbox Live)
When you would be available to play it

I'll collate the answers here and lets see what we can sort out :


Zaphod79
Left 4 Dead 1 & 2 on Steam Windows / Steam OSX / Xbox 360 - I still have Xbox Live so can play on any
I'm around most weeknights from about 21:30 till about midnight

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Both games on Steam (Windows/OSX)
I don't have either game on 360 or Live any longer
I am available most evenings

Grim...All versions
I'd probably prefer 360
I can do Friday night ?:

Mr Dave
If it is on PC, I could make a teamspeak server available if needed.
Might also be able to play, maybe.

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I have it on my Xbox 360 but don't mind buying it on Steam if it's cheap enough.
I'm available most evenings from 8ish (apart from Monday)

RuySan
I have both on Steam.
I can play both, even though i prefer L4D1. I don't have any voice chat though.

Cookie
I have both on Steam, and am free pretty much every evening.

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I am interested in playing on Steam. Pretty much whenever.

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 Post subject: Re: Let's play Left 4 Dead
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Both games on Steam (Windows/OSX)
I don't have either game on 360 or Live any longer
I am available most evenings

Cross-play between Win/Mac/Linux works fine (in theory).

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 Post subject: Re: Let's play Left 4 Dead
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I'd probably prefer 360
I can do Friday night ?:|

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 Post subject: Re: Let's play Left 4 Dead
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If it is on PC, I could make a teamspeak server available if needed.

Might also be able to play, maybe.


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 Post subject: Re: Let's play Left 4 Dead
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Yes you can cross play fine my step daughter joins me sometimes :)

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 Post subject: Re: Let's play Left 4 Dead
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I have it on my Xbox 360 but don't mind buying it on Steam if it's cheap enough.

I'm available most evenings from 8ish (apart from Monday)


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 Post subject: Re: Let's play Left 4 Dead
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TheVision wrote:
I have it on my Xbox 360 but don't mind buying it on Steam if it's cheap enough.


It has been cheap in the past (I'm sure I got a bundle with both for maybe around a fiver) but its £15 for it on the steam store right now

http://steamcommunity.com/app/550

For cheap options you could use Kinguin - for between about £4 and £7

http://www.kinguin.net/category/290/lef ... team-gift/

I've not bought anything from Kinguin but they are linked to from Savygamer so Lewie trusts them to get you a key at least :-)


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 Post subject: Re: Let's play Left 4 Dead
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I have both on Steam. I can play both, even though i prefer L4D1. I don't have any voice chat though.


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 Post subject: Re: Let's play Left 4 Dead
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RuySan wrote:
I have both on Steam. I can play both, even though i prefer L4D1. I don't have any voice chat though.


So I've played COD on Steam and it allows you to 'type' messages which I find are better than the voice chat at times (you hit 'T' to talk and then type a line of text e.g. "There is a sniper on the roof above A")

Does anyone know if L4D does this ?


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 Post subject: Re: Let's play Left 4 Dead
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Considering it started life as a Counter Strike mod, it almost certainly does.

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 Post subject: Re: Let's play Left 4 Dead
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I have both on Steam, and am free pretty much every evening.
L4D2 definitely has in-game chat, as that's how Pete and I communicated when we played.


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 Post subject: Re: Let's play Left 4 Dead
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The idea of having time to type anything in L4D surprises me.

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 Post subject: Re: Let's play Left 4 Dead
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 Post subject: Re: Let's play Left 4 Dead
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 Post subject: Re: Let's play Left 4 Dead
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 Post subject: Re: Let's play Left 4 Dead
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 Post subject: Re: Let's play Left 4 Dead
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Cras wrote:
The idea of having time to type anything in L4D surprises me.


You can type "where the f#ck have you gone Grim... - oh sh!t the alarm is going off are you triggering the end of the map already?"


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 Post subject: Re: Let's play Left 4 Dead
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I am interested in playing on Steam. Pretty much whenever.


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 Post subject: Re: Let's play Left 4 Dead
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Okay so the only people for Xbox are myself / Grim... and The Vision - everyone else is Steam and the only person who's suggested a Specific date is Grim... and Friday (I know TheVision cant make Monday)

So do we want to try a few games of it next Friday then (9th) on Steam ?


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zaphod79 wrote:
Okay so the only people for Xbox are myself / Grim... and The Vision - everyone else is Steam and the only person who's suggested a Specific date is Grim... and Friday (I know TheVision cant make Monday)

So do we want to try a few games of it next Friday then (9th) on Steam ?

Unlikely I can make that.

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 Post subject: Re: Let's play Left 4 Dead
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If this is going to go 360 I could join in.

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Mr Kissyfur wrote:
If this is going to go 360 I could join in.


So with you we could make a 4some on the 360

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What days can you guys make it next week ?


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Future Warrior wrote:
zaphod79 wrote:
Okay so the only people for Xbox are myself / Grim... and The Vision - everyone else is Steam and the only person who's suggested a Specific date is Grim... and Friday (I know TheVision cant make Monday)

So do we want to try a few games of it next Friday then (9th) on Steam ?

Unlikely I can make that.


Okay - what days can you make it next week ?


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 Post subject: Re: Let's play Left 4 Dead
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zaphod79 wrote:
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zaphod79 wrote:
Okay so the only people for Xbox are myself / Grim... and The Vision - everyone else is Steam and the only person who's suggested a Specific date is Grim... and Friday (I know TheVision cant make Monday)

So do we want to try a few games of it next Friday then (9th) on Steam ?

Unlikely I can make that.


Okay - what days can you make it next week ?

Mon, Wed, Thurs.

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Okay - what days can you make it next week ?

Mon, Wed, Thurs.


Right then - Thursday next week Steam - who else can make it ?


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If this is going to go 360 I could join in.


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It's unlikely I'd know for sure about next Thursday until next Thursday, but it seems pretty likely.

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Are we playing 1 or 2? I only have 2 on Steam, but I guess I could buy #1.

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Are we playing 1 or 2? I only have 2 on Steam, but I guess I could buy #1.


Most people have said either - if you dont have 1 then lets just go with 2


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