Mr Russell wrote:
Windows 7 was lovely. We've been stuck with 8 at work for a while, and the metro interface is still vastly annoying.
Some people have W10
A higher resolution laptop screen would be nice though
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| Author: | Kern [ Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:47 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
MaliA wrote: Jem wrote: Kern wrote: The only issue I have with Windows 10 is that my start menu will work for a bit, then decide not to. Probably an issue with my user account or my installation but life's too short to sort it out and I seldom need any app that isn't pinned to the taskbar. Tried using the windows key on the keyboard rather than clicking with a mouse? A keyboard. How quaint. I have a wired mouse too. |
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| Author: | Kern [ Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:49 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
Jem wrote: Kern wrote: The only issue I have with Windows 10 is that my start menu will work for a bit, then decide not to. Probably an issue with my user account or my installation but life's too short to sort it out and I seldom need any app that isn't pinned to the taskbar. Tried using the windows key on the keyboard rather than clicking with a mouse? That doesn't work either. I did find a fix a while back but after a while it reverts to not working. Usually it reappears for a while after an update. |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Fri Jul 08, 2016 14:58 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
Say "Hello Computer" |
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| Author: | myp [ Fri Jul 08, 2016 15:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
DavPaz wrote: Say "Hello Computer" Hello Computer |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Fri Jul 08, 2016 15:08 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
Good boy |
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| Author: | Dr Zoidberg [ Fri Jul 08, 2016 17:50 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
Mr Russell wrote: Windows 7 was lovely. We've been stuck with 8 at work for a while, and the metro interface is still vastly annoying. Some people have W10 A higher resolution laptop screen would be nice though
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| Author: | NervousPete [ Mon Jul 11, 2016 22:37 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
Hmm, saw the update warning again from Microsoft and read it more carefully this time. Looks to be a warning about Service Pack 1 not being installed, which I've tried umpteen times before with a failure each time. (Somewhat cheekily it suggests Windows 10 in big bold font as a fix for update woes, and then squirrelled away in the lower corner it says in somewhat smaller font, ' Or you could just update Service Pack 1. Um.') So, it's failed each time so far. Tried it with the Windows Update Fix-It paving the way, with Anti-Virus turned off and various other methods. Going to try deleting all the temporary update files next on the weekend before running it again. Then... I don't know, guess I'll try an 'In Place' update, though I hear it can be risky. I've got a second internal disc drive which I back all my photographs up to, so they should be safe at least, I guess. Gngh. Wish I could figure out why this isn't working. Ugh. |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 6:08 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
Your photos are (of course) backed up in 2 other places as well, yes? |
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| Author: | NervousPete [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:21 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
Every three months I back up from the internal back up drive to an external back up drive. Though I haven't tried any cloud storage yet. I'm planning on drastically winnowing my photographic catalogue down to the essentials before I do that. |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:23 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
I've got every photo I've ever taken backed up on Google.
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| Author: | NervousPete [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:25 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
40,000 photographs in my catalogue. That's a lot of uploading! 
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:27 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
40,000 isn't a lot at all, unless you're on dialup. LiveDrive gives you automatic backups with unlimited space for £5 a month. No excuses! |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:28 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
About the same for me. Yes. It was 
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| Author: | Cras [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:37 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
DavPaz wrote: I've got every photo I've ever taken backed up on Google. Google photo backups is only infinite free storage for downsized images. Fine for snaps, but not great if you're a semi-pro photographer. |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:41 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
Cras wrote: DavPaz wrote: I've got every photo I've ever taken backed up on Google. Google photo backups is only infinite free storage for downsized images. Fine for snaps, but not great if you're a semi-pro photographer. But I'm not. |
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| Author: | NervousPete [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:54 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
Grim... wrote: 40,000 isn't a lot at all, unless you're on dialup. LiveDrive gives you automatic backups with unlimited space for £5 a month. No excuses! It used to be 65,000 - but I dearly love a harsh curatorial culling. I'm hoping to get it down to 25,000 eventually. (All the wedding stuff will, naturally, remain untouched.) And yeah, we're talking RAW, TIFF and RAF files here, so pretty chunky at 20mb through 50mb - and a few 125mb! Thanks for the cloud backup nod. That sounds pretty good. How does it work, do you simply assign a folder for it to look in to and filch from at a set time every week, or something? |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:00 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
You can install a widget that will keep a folder synced. As Cras says, space is limited to 15gig for full res, but you can have unlimited space for reduced resolution backups |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:19 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
Assuming Pete meant LiveDrive, then yeah, you'd tell it where your photos were and have it back them up every night (or on every file change, depending on your internet speeds). Then just leave your computer on for a few days to let it do the initial sync, and you're golden. |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 12:32 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
Oh yeah. Missed Cras' post Edit. grim...'s post |
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| Author: | markg [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 8:43 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
Does anyone happen to know know if I can do a clean install of Windows 10 with an 8.1 license key or do I actually have to go through the rigmarole of installing 8.1 and upgrading? |
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| Author: | markg [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 8:47 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
Basically my PC which originally had Windows 8.1 which got upgraded to 10 has gone a bit wrong and I want to do a clean install. |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 8:49 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
With 7 last week, I needed the install. I imagine it's the same, but you can try. If you've already upgraded, you may be able to get away without a product key. Install, say I don't have a product key (or try the one you have) and see if it activates. |
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| Author: | markg [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 8:53 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
Cheers. What an arseache if so. |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 8:54 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
Contrariwise, I went straight to 10 with a win 7 pro licence. So... dunno |
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| Author: | markg [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 9:18 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
Thanks man. I shall hope for the best. |
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| Author: | GazChap [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 9:22 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
Is this stable enough to upgrade from 8.1 now, then? |
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| Author: | KovacsC [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 9:23 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
i hope so... will get that card off you and find out
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 9:30 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
GazChap wrote: Is this stable enough to upgrade from 8.1 now, then? The upgrade is often not entirely stable. A clean install with the upgraded license seems to be fine on anything vaguely modern. |
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| Author: | markg [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 9:47 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
Also if you're wanting to upgrade to Windows 10 then you should probably do it now since I think the free upgrade offer expires in seven days time. |
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| Author: | markg [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 10:16 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
Yay, all sorted. I just chose "don't have a key" and it activated fine. |
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| Author: | Hearthly [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 10:19 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
GazChap wrote: Is this stable enough to upgrade from 8.1 now, then? We've had it running for a few months now on both a clean build and a Win 7 upgrade, and both have been fine, although Win 10 did break the venerable old version of Photoshop that Mrs H has been using forever, but fortunately we have another install on a Win 7 machine in the house. I still don't think there's any compelling reason to upgrade to 10 if you've got a PC you're happy with, and are intending to retire it before the OS it's running goes out of support. (So in my PC's case, I'm on Win 7 which is supported until 2020, and there's no way I'll still be using it then, so why the hell I would bother with 10 I have no idea.) To my mind an upgrade to Win 10 gives you a best possible case scenario of your PC carries on running as well as it does now. (i.e. No change.) Every other result is just shades of things going wrong. At the end of a day it's an OS, it's just a platform to run other things on. |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 10:53 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
markg wrote: Yay, all sorted. I just chose "don't have a key" and it activated fine. I reckon if it's the same hardware, your system has been profiled on a server somewhere. When you reinstall it matches up fine and all is well. |
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| Author: | GazChap [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 13:37 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
Well, I'm interested in it because of the supposed benefits to VR (DX12 etc. I guess) I actually claimed my free upgrade shortly after they were announced, downloaded it etc. and then never got around to installing it. Have deleted the files since, so does that mean that if I don't upgrade by the cut off point I've got to pay? |
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| Author: | Hearthly [ Fri Jul 22, 2016 19:09 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
GazChap wrote: Well, I'm interested in it because of the supposed benefits to VR (DX12 etc. I guess) I actually claimed my free upgrade shortly after they were announced, downloaded it etc. and then never got around to installing it. Have deleted the files since, so does that mean that if I don't upgrade by the cut off point I've got to pay? As best I understand it if you haven't actually upgraded before the cutoff date then you can't do so afterwards, irrespective of whether or not you've already downloaded the files or 'accepted' that you'd like the upgrade, or suchlike. However, if you upgrade to Windows 10 and then roll back, you can apparently return to Windows 10 at a point of your choosing in the future, including after July 29th. If you've got a specific reason for wanting Windows 10 (DX12 + VR in your case) then fair enough I suppose, although I'm a mega-keen PC gamer and I'm not sold on DX12 at all, Nvidia cards don't seem to be getting anything out of DX12, although maybe VR is a special case. Windows 10 has done well but not that well, I can't imagine any hardware/software producer wishing to alienate a massive percentage of their potential customer base with products that run substantially worse on Windows 7/8 and DX11 compared to Windows 10. |
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| Author: | Bobbyaro [ Tue Jul 26, 2016 18:56 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
Upgraded to win10, was surprised to see a load of the same programmes still installed, but seems pretty good so far, except that it has inverted my multitouch scroll function on the mouse pad, haven't looked how to fix that yet, but a bit strange! |
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| Author: | LewieP [ Tue Jul 26, 2016 19:13 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
I did the upgrade dance. Went for a fresh install. Christ there's a load of guff to get rid of from a fresh install isn't there? All the built in apps, integration to a load of services I'm not interested in etc. Took me about an hour to get set up properly, but I guess it's fine now. Some irritations: Opening a photo with the built in photo viewer prompts you to log in to an MS account. I have no idea why this is required to view a photo. It's fiddled with some keyboard shortcuts. I'm not allowed to use backspace for back in web browsers any more. The text has a weirdo blury look to it on lots of apps. I found a tool to fix it but I don't know why it was a problem in the first place (something to do with ClearType and DPI settings I gather) Lots of the UI is pleasant to look at, but there's some real inconsistent UI elements. Feels like there's still stuff in here dating back to the XP era, and even though they had a decent enough design for the new stuff they added, lots hasn't been update properly. The new action centre is nicer than the Win8 charms bar, but it's weird how interacting with it sometimes presents a clean new style menu, and sometimes an old one that looks really out of place. My twitter client of choice, which stopped getting updates prior to Windows 10 coming out has a little bug where sometimes there's a blank entry in the alt-tab menu for something called "NotificationView", which I guess is handling notifications, but it shouldn't be showing on the alt-tab menu (never did in previous versions). Positives: Boot time is way fast now. Some of the menu transitions and window animations are pretty fancy. Start menu is pretty good once you get rid of the live tiles and adverts. The new version of what used to be called aero snap is pretty nice. It's far from the car crash that 8 was. Overall I give it a C+. I reckon if they weren't laser focused on going after the mobile/tablet market, and tying people into their various different services, to the detriment of their desktop OS, it could be loads better, but they've done a far better job of mitigating the lack of focus here than they did with 8. |
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| Author: | Hearthly [ Tue Jul 26, 2016 22:18 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
'Windows 10, mostly as good as what you already had, for most people, most of the time. You might think some bits of it look slightly nicer.' It's a stunning sales pitch. |
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| Author: | Bobbyaro [ Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:22 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
okay, turns out i am not the only one wo have an inverted touchpad, but I can't find a solution. Doesn't seem to offer anything better than Win 7 at the moment. |
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| Author: | markg [ Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:25 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
What are people expecting it to actually do? Give them blow jobs or something? |
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| Author: | Bobbyaro [ Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:41 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
Well, what the hell else is Cortana there for? |
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| Author: | markg [ Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:42 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
*re-enables Cortana* |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:43 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
Start | Type "Mouse" | Click "Mouse and touchpad settings" | Change "Reverse scrolling direction"? |
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| Author: | Hearthly [ Sat Jul 30, 2016 12:08 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
The Windows 10 free upgrade's clagnutted arsehole has now indeed pulled up its underpants, so you can once again update your Windows 7/8 PC without clicking on every single update's MORE INFORMATION button to see if it's going to do something to try and sneak Windows 10 onto your PC. Oh no I only have four more years of support on Windows 7, much scary, so sad. Attachment: yay10arsebollock.JPG
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| Author: | Bobbyaro [ Sat Jul 30, 2016 13:08 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
No, now you have to check if it is going to upgrade but charge you for the privilege. |
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| Author: | Hearthly [ Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:34 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
Anniversary update went live yesterday, it's a big one, from starting the download to the PC having finished the updates and approximately three thousand reboots, took the best part of an hour, and this was on nicely specced i5 PCs with plenty of RAM and SSDs. There are a few new features in there apparently but I didn't notice anything much different afterwards apart from them inexplicably having moved some things around slightly on the start menu for no apparent reason other than to cause minor irritation. Oh yes and there seemed to be advertisements in the tiles as well. Were they there before? Probably, but there seemed to be more though. Overall I would say Mrs Hearthly and Hearthly Jnr will notice very little difference, which is probably about the nicest thing I can say about it. Amazing scenes. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Wed Aug 03, 2016 9:08 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
Hearthly wrote: Amazing scenes. Operating system in "does more stuff than show you things" shocker |
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| Author: | Hearthly [ Wed Aug 03, 2016 9:15 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
Grim... wrote: Hearthly wrote: Amazing scenes. Operating system in "does more stuff than show you things" shocker Well yes, I understand that, but was coming at it from the perspective of the 'users', which in this case is my wife and child who just want their PCs to behave in a consistent and predictable manner, and not annoy them. Then again, even if you look at what's going on behind the scenes in this update, a lot of it will be almost entirely irrelevant for many folks. http://www.howtogeek.com/248177/whats-n ... ry-update/ |
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| Author: | LewieP [ Wed Aug 03, 2016 9:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
One new feature is that they have broken compatibility with PS4 controllers. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Wed Aug 03, 2016 9:18 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
My PC had updated myself when I got up, which was somewhat painless. |
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| Author: | Kern [ Wed Aug 03, 2016 9:18 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Windows 10 |
Is the calculator better? |
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