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Maybe Grim... has Pro? or came from 7 Ultimate?

I can't find the day one either (home version)

I was thinking that as I have the home version... I think.

Lulz home lusers.

UPGRADE NOW TO WINDOWS 10 PROFESSIONAL AND GET THE MEGA CALCULATOR.

That can't be a difference between Home and other versions, surely?

I'd check myself as I have Windows 7 Ultimate except of course I haven't 'upgraded' it and NEVER WILL.

Knowing how precious they are of their media center, quite probably !

I am a Home user and one of the chosen, clearly.

Then WTF?

Microsoft hate you JC. It's the only explanation.

Version 10.1601.49020.0 stats fans.

Version 10.1601.49020.1 won't look like shit. We can only hope.

10.1601.19020.0

With no date function.

Well I Googled "Windows 10 calculator date calculation missing" and nothing.

I'm running Windows 10, build 10240.

BOOM SUCKERS! Eat it. Eat it all up.

I will once I've untwisted my head from looking at that pic.

One day computers might have the power to rotate an image through 90 degrees.

Just convert to epoch time in your head then use the subtract function

And me!



Same as me.



Living the dream!

I too have the function available and am on version 10.1601.49020.0 of the app running Windows 10 Home. Weird that some people have an older version. I did notice that it came up as a 'Trusted Windows store app' and I'm logged into my PC using my actual MS account. Is it possible that there's an older version of the app that comes packaged with the OS and the new version only gets rolled out from the app store if you're logged into your MS account? Just a thought...

Calculator confusion. Only Windows 10 makes it possible.

UPGRADE FOR FREE. TODAY!

(And if you don't, we'll probably just make you do so when we feel like it anyway.)

I'm running Windows 10 pro AND logged in to my MS account.... Yet I haven't got that feature on my calculator.

How strange?

For what it's worth, my desktop has better calculator. Laptop doesn't.

Main difference is that the desktop had a fresh install, laptop is still on the upgrade from windows 8.1.

I can see that that could make a difference.

My pooter was on Windows 8.1 and upgraded and it's still got the greatest calculator known to mankind on it.

Incidentally, this is the calculator on my phone.

Running Windows 10.

If you're getting jealous you're more than welcome to come to the Shire and I'll let you have a go on my PC .

Aye. I think I got my shiny, fully-functioned, farby-Workbench-looking calc when I had download all the basic apps in a bid to get my start button working again (see somewhere down on this page).

Windows 7, baby!

Fuck this... I'm going to Kerns.

I'm on 10.1511.10586.104 and have the date conversion.

I'm on 10.1601.49020.0 and have the date function.

How odd!

Quantum Break only coming to Windows 10 and DX12.

http://www.pcper.com/news/General-Tech/ ... DirectX-12

And only the Windows Store as well, apparently.

I have never even heard of this game and have no idea what it is, so I'm sure I'll cope without it.

Made by the same developer as the first two Max Payne games and Alan Wake.

It was one of the best looking Xbone exclusives, so it coming to Windows as well has made a large number of tedious fanboys lose their shit. For this alone I like the cut of its jib.

Indeed.

Ahh right, Alan Wake was a load of shit so this Quantum Break thing will be shit as well.

INFALLIBLE LOGIC.

Anyway, I'm a refusenik for Windows 10 on my current PC, but it's going to go bang at some point (CPU+mobo+RAM now over seven years old), and obviously my new PC when it's purchased will have Windows 10 on it, so I'll be able to get Quantum Break on budget re-release if it's any good.

Windows Store only is shite too. Games For Windows Live, that worked out well. Some games are literally lost forever thanks to Microsoft turning it off. Even though it was shit it was actually required for some games to work, like DiRT2.

Yeah not so happy about Windows Store. I guess it's their crafty way of making us use it. I've not used it yet, so that will be something else to install and faff around with that I really would rather not (he says, sporting Steam, Origin an Uplay or whatever the fuck they call it).

I don't see how them turning off GFWL breaks games though? I was playing Gears of War (the really old DX10 one) just the other day (wanted to see if it would support 4k and it did !) It had an old version of the GFWL installer so I just installed that. Doesn't seem to have done any harm.

I'm pretty sure you don't have to install the Windows store.

I didn't realise the app was already installed. Any way, we can drop the install part and add the "Faff around with" part. I've now tried it on my wired connection, and my wireless and I'm getting this.



Oh joy of all joys.

Ran it through Google and apparently the fix is to run Windows Update.



Brilliant !

Edit. Feex. I found a tool on Microsoft's website that found that a corrupt update had basically broken the connection between me and Windows update. I remember one day last week I was sitting here browsing away and my cursor became very juddery and slow. It refused to stop so I rebooted the PC. I then got the "Installing Windows Updates" thing so assumed it was that. The next morning my PC refused to boot, stuck on a Windows logo with no spinning thing. Only after six reboots and a repair attempt did I get back in so it probably had something to do with all of that.

I had that a few times with 8 too. It would install an update my machine didn't like then eventually realise the error of its ways and remove them after a few boots and a repair.

DiRT2 used GFWL for multiplayer, when GFWL got turned off it broke multiplayer. Codemasters said 'Too old, we ain't fixing it'.

To give them their dues they did fix DiRT3 (which also used GFWL), and gave everyone a copy of 'DiRT3 Complete Edition' for free if they already had DiRT3. This had GFWL stripped out and used Steam's native stuff for multiplayer.

I know DiRT2 is an old game now, but me and the chaps still had a bit of a soft spot for an occasional Saturday night blast down the Chapel Run track. I particularly liked it 'cause it had my Scooby in it as well.

And then Microsoft broke it forever.

It's not a problem specific to games, it's a problem specific to technology interaction, and an expectation of vendor support that is, frankly, unrealistic. When Google turned off their v1 Calendar API, Samsung smart fridges stopped displaying their calendar. The fridges were more than a year old, so Samsung weren't going to fix it under warranty, and Google weren't going to keep an old service running with no kind of mutual agreement in place.

If companies like Codies and Samsung are going to rely on a third party service for a product they sell, they need to make sure that agreements are in place for support of those services for an agreed lifespan of the product, and they need to make sure the consumer is aware of that lifespan as part of their purchase.

That really bends, man. I didn't know that because I only ever played it in multi once and that was with a chum from the USA. I thrashed him stupid and the conclusion was that he had absolutely no idea what Rallying was, how it worked, nor that you did it on mud and as thus the handling was very strange compared to normal driving. We never played it again after that, and nor did he, the whole concept was just lost on him. And that was fine, it's kind of like telling an American they should love fish and chips (most do but some find it gross) when they simply may just not like something that isn't their tradition.

Dirt 3 fixed all of that, but pretty much broke what I loved about Dirt 2 adding far too much American stuff for my liking. I wouldn't say I hated Dirt 3, just that I enjoyed it nowhere near as much as Dirt 2.

'kin sucks they have broken the multi player though. Maybe they also made it impossible for someone to code something that basically takes over from GFWL and connects you to friends too.

People have been saying that the Windows Store version of Rise of the Tomb Raider, due to the way Windows Store Apps work, has to run in Borderless windowed, has to have Vsync on, and doesn't support SLI/Crossfire... Microsoft's doing great at attracting people from Steam!

Ah, error 0x80072F30 - Date calculator not found.

Bloody hell well I'm glad I didn't buy it from there then ! I'm screwed without Crossfire at 4k. I hope that doesn't stay the same for this new game or they can shove it.

Apparently, folk that have the Threshold 2 update (TH2) have the date function, and folks that don't don't.

The plot thickens! So how do I get this update and what does it do?

I thought I'd set it to download stuff automatically but there you go. Microsoft are keeping the man down with their calculators!

It is move that has caused divisions...

That came out way back in November though so wouldn't everyone have received it by now? Either that or we have a host of people on this thread who're manually monitoring Windows updates and have decided not to install this one which seems pretty unlikely.

"After setup is complete, your PC will be running Windows 10 Version 1511. To see what version your PC is running, select the Start button , then select Settings > System > About."

I am indeed on 1511.



What about you, non-date folk?

Unsurprisingly mine looks nothing like that.