Be Excellent To Each Other

Takes one to know one.

Managed to get it installed on my wife's laptop using the media tool MS are providing

Its nicer that Windows 8 but still annoys me with its none desktop interface that I just don't want on a none touch device

Early days with the Siri clone but that's appearing to be shit, does nothing with the desktop other than put your requests into a web browser, looks to work better with Windows Apps, shame most of those are lacking.

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We've got an HP Probook 6570b in the lab running a dumb robot. It's got a serial COM port.

We got it around a year and a half, maybe 2 years ago. We've never used it for anything other than running the robot so I don't know if it's what someone else would call 'good' or not, but it fulfils the role here just fine. It's never been used off the bench other than being quickly shifted around so we can clean but it doesn't strike me as being all that portable. It's quite big and heavy so I wouldn't want to use it on the go.

You should probably get some more practice.

If you are having issues with the Windows update process for Windows 10 then follow the instructions here

http://venturebeat.com/2015/07/29/how-t ... ws-update/

MS have released a tool that you just run and it downloads the OS and does the update, it worked on my wife's laptop where the update had not worked for 2 days

From my experience new has always meant more modern and with technology that's usually very good. Microsoft seem to crap out every now and then, but around six months ago I decided for a laugh to install every OS I could lay my hands on (I had a 12 port Dell SATA card) and even Vista with the most modern updates was really nice.

Every one knows when a stinker is coming. 7 was fantastic it's just very old. Speed and stability wise 8 never dropped a beat for me it was just a bit fiddly to navigate but with 10 being the new 7 they've sorted all of that.

Doc. I thought long and hard about how to reply to your post but it beats me. Are you saying that you have no other redeeming qualities that people love you for? or simply that the reason people like you is because you are good at arguing on the internet?

Personally I would hope it was the former. Yes, one can meet and find friends over the internet (though other than my first disastrous marriage I don't normally partake in that sort of behaviour) and even jobs and so on, but arguing is not something people usually tend to find attractive.

I tend to stick to real life now, having had pretty much the worst experience you could really want to have finding things through the internet. I'm also happy with my friends, family and my darling lady so I don't feel I really need to go in search of anything on the internet. I usually find people tend to smile to your face, then once they are in the safety of their own home decide to tell you what they really thought of you. As thus that sort of human behaviour isn't something I go out of my way to look for.

Any way, back to the topic.....

I thought Vista got a bit of a bad rap, it really wasn't that bad... on a decent machine.

7 is still going strongly on 3 of my PCs. For anything newer, I've really only got experience with Mavericks and Yosemite. I quite like those too.

Yeah indeed it actually felt rather sexy tbh. I forgot just how nice and simple and clean it was. XP felt bloody donkey's years old and I wasn't terribly impressed with Ubuntu. I really liked Mavericks but Yosemite kind of felt a little playschool for me. Fast though, and handles multi threads with serious aplomb. Maybe at some point I will try building myself another Hackintosh.

96% It keeps telling me to relax but I can't.

"Taking care of a few things"

That sounds fucking ominous.

And we're in. Everything seems similar. I was expecting to feel like I had just warped through a space-portal or something.

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The EULA and Privacy Policy are almost exactly the same as Windows 8 - the main difference being a slight rewording to show the "Windows as a Service" thing. And as far as I can tell, all monitoring has settings to disable it. (Which is the first thing I always do with any new device....)


Apparently it's now maintained by a 3rd party company? Not sure how true that is. But yes, there is adverts between games ranging in length between 15 and 30 seconds - not in the actual games, from my experience.

I don't see what the problem is. Microsoft need my details so they can serve me better with adverts that they're going to be serving anyway? I'd rather see adverts for stuff I might be interested in.

And yes, solitaire does show an advert at the bottom but only on the menu screen so far. It's actually a nifty version all tied into Xbox live!

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I'd rather not see adverts.

Windows 10 is downloading.

I'm going to bed

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I like it!

Yeah I really like it too I'm just waiting on some RCA connectors to sort out my sound then I will get a mic for Cortana as it works really well

No chance, we are mere sheep, members of the herd. We cannot stand alone like you and see the truths as you do, our tiny minds simply could not handle insights of such depth.

I don't even have a microphone attached to my PC.

I've got a Razer headset I got at a bargain £38 but since switching to the DAC it's annoying to switch between the DAC and headphones and the headset so I think I will get one of those desktop mics. I wouldn't but I tested Cortana and it really works well.

I know, lazy, but I'm a tech geek

Well, we're not off to a good start here. I literally can't open any control panels at all; I just get a stupid message about the file note having a program associated with it. Obviously that's pretty useless in general but it's doubly so because the display on my monitor looks like ass and I can't even get in to change the resolution. *sigh* To the Google-o-tron!

Nope, I can't find a fix for that which is more than a little annoying. I did manage to get my resolution set properly after having to fuck around in the AMD driver control panel which is good, but everything still looks really weird in Firefox. All the text looks like it's in bold and the icons in the menu bar and whatnot look like they had a layer of Vaseline applied to them.

Aside from that, everything seems to work so far. What I need to do know is investigate if there's a way to create an actual install disc so I can wipe everything down and do a fresh install. Anyone know?

The tool on the MS website lets you create installation media... but I'm not sure how that would work on an upgraded system. Would the "Reset" function in the Setting -> Update and Security not do the job just as well?

Having my Xbox Live Gamertag on my old MS account is causing problems, as I use my new account for everything else. A lot of things want me to sign into Xbox, and only a few give the option of using a different account.

I upgraded first,then made a tool but you can burn a dvd apparently.

I'm having problems with my sound drivers. The wife is out tonight so I thought I'd have a nice peaceful night... well, I am... but it is sat in front of my PC downloading drivers. Not exactly fun.

I want actual install media because I'm going to swap my HDD for an SSD so I don't want to have to install Windows 7 then upgrade to 10 all over again.

I'm getting clipping issues, and I can't work out why - is yours a similar problem?

Just.... Why?....

This genuinely isn't Schadenfreude or suchlike, I'm simply mystified as to why anyone would take a perfectly good computer and risk bollocksing it up with a brand new operating system that is inevitably going to have a fair amount of stuff wrong with it and not quite working properly.

(I see it a bit like firmware updates for your motherboard, unless it's fixing a problem you're experiencing, just leave it alone.)

It's not even like you have to get in early doors, the free upgrade offer is good for TWELVE MONTHS, why not just at least wait six of them for them to sort all the worst of the problems and the glitches and the bugs?

The one thing that I'm interested in (DirectX 12) may well show impressive gains in synthetic benchmarks in the here and now, but until it's making a difference to a game I want to play, even that won't get me to switch.

Good for you. Some of us like playing with new shiny stuff.

Anyway, once I've got my Windows 10 disk image and do a clean install, what license key do I use? Will it activate with my Windows 7 key? That seems unlikely, but it's not like you're ever given a new one for Windows 10.

That's what I was wondering - your key is replaced by a "generic" upgrade key. I read somewhere that if you want to do a clean install, you have to first upgrade, activate, THEN do the clean install. So I'd assume you use the Win7 key, and when activating Microsoft will see "Oh, he's already gotten the upgrade, so the key's valid for use in 10." and then they'll replace it with the generic one.

My job is techy, I'm paid to play with shiny new stuff, it's literally my job.

But you know where I do that? In development environments, not production environments. The development environments I don't care about, I can nuke them at will and try again if something goes wrong, once I'm happy something works in dev I'll move it over to live.

I consider my home PC to be a 'production environment', I just want to turn the thing on every day and for it work consistently and dependably, so that I can play games or email/internet/Facebook/whatever, or look at all the best pictures I've ever taken of my cock - it doesn't matter what the task is, I just want my PC to turn on and and obey.

So yes, by all means, if you've got a second PC to muck about with or an old laptop or something, go nuts with finishing Microsoft's beta test of Windows 10 - but if you're applying the 'probably going to break something' update to your main PC, I really do have to wonder why. Unless that thing where you talk to it was a feature you simply couldn't wait for.

This is going to be one of those times where you just say the same thing over and over again with slightly different phrasing. I suggest we skip straight to the part where we agree to disagree and both move on with our lives. Regardless of how you personally feel about this some of us are happy to give it a shot for the sake of checking it out. That's just what's happening; let it go.

Doing some more Googling I came across an article that said the licensing is handled by logging a profile of your machine with Microsoft when you initially do the upgrade and any future installs are activated based on that so it should just work (unless you swap out loads of hardware). I'm going to download an ISO tomorrow then try a fresh install with it on my SSD so I suppose we'll see how it goes.

My pooter (in fact, both of pooties) hasn't asked me to upgrade yet. It's like it knows.

Did you actually tell it you wanted to?

Yup. I've got that windows icon which brings up the box that says "Ok, tell me when it's ready" or words to that effect.

Nope. Afraid not. My PC wasn't recognising my mic in Audacity so I reinstalled the drivers and it seems to be working now.

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Jesus christ you maniacs, have you never heard of live and let live? I'm so happy that you're happy, but chill your boots, m'kay?

Since you've gone for the plural there I'll have to assume I'm being labelled a 'maniac' for exercising and advising caution in jumping knee deep into a brand new operating system on your main PC/laptop?

Hng

What does it matter? If everyone else fucks their shit, your pc is still fine. We're all adults with robust backups, right guys?

Right, guys?

Right on.

*weeps*

It's just Hearthly I wouldn't worry about it. When a Aspie doesn't like something it's incredibly difficult to contain oneself and you inevitably end up offending people.

The answer is Pregabalin