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GUYS! You're detracting from the serious and hardcore nature of this intellectual thread remarking on the politics of the day! It's almost like you're not taking this gibbering moron seriously!

I dunno. I think I think in words. I have conversations with myself in my head about what I'm doing and stuff.

...

How do deaf people think? I mean, when I think, I think in words. Do you think they think the same?

I have spoken to multilingual people about this too, and they have all said they usually think in the language they are using, unless it's something that would either be more convenient in their native language or is just complicated.

I dunno. I think I think in words. I have conversations with myself in my head about what I'm doing and stuff.

I used to watch Aliens at least once a week, Alien probably once a month, Alien³ perhaps five times a year. I broke more Aliens videos that I can count.
I haven't actually watched Aliens on a screen for a good few years now, but if I am on a train or bus with nothing else to do I still often shut my eyes and watch it in my head.

I hear myself in my thoughts

Grim... wrote:

I dunno. I think I think in words. I have conversations with myself in my head about what I'm doing and stuff.

Which reminds me of this alarming revelation

Grim... wrote:

Mimi wrote:

I hear myself in my thoughts

See, you don't really. You think you're hearing yourself thinking. But you could still be thinking that if you didn't know how the words actually sounded.

I think in words and sentences too. Not very visual, me.

Still can. Haven't for a while, though. When I time myself I tend to run slower than the film, which is odd.

Mimi wrote:

I hear myself in my thoughts

See, you don't really. You think you're hearing yourself thinking.

Some things I think in English (most things), and some in French and some in German. Mostly as the phrase is shorter in foreign than English, or sounds better. Other times I think in the shower

MaliA wrote:

Some things I think in English (most things), and some in French and some in German. Mostly as the phrase is shorter in foreign than English, or sounds better. Other times I think in the shower

I'm still perplexed as to why you would think in a language at all unless you were needing to communicate with someone (be it someone else or your future self). Having thoughts constrained with all the rules of language and the like, or thinking about concepts that weren't found within a language, be they structural or particulars... I'm just not sure I see the benefit.

Saturnalian wrote:

pooty

Its hard to determine whether the windows are hard to see through due to the level of shit smeared on them or easy because they've been so cleanly licked.

Why have I still not seen the Art of Rap!? Someone remind me when I've got the pooty on to acquire this.

Saturnalian wrote:

Why have I still not seen the Art of Rap!? Someone remind me when I've got the pooty on to acquire this.

Watch it. It is super interesting.

MaliA wrote:

Saturnalian wrote:

Why have I still not seen the Art of Rap!? Someone remind me when I've got the pooty on to acquire this.

Watch it. It is super interesting.

I want to watch Straight Outta Crompton, but no-one wants to go with me.

MaliA wrote:

Saturnalian wrote:

Why have I still not seen the Art of Rap!? Someone remind me when I've got the pooty on to acquire this.

Watch it. It is super interesting.

I want to watch Straight Outta Crompton, but no-one wants to go with me.

MODS - do one decent thing in your life, close this thread.

Author:	Cras [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:09 ]
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Sound thinking.

Author:	Grim... [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:15 ]
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... How do deaf people think? I mean, when I think, I think in words. Do you think they think the same?

Author:	Cras [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:17 ]
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Do you think in words, or do you just think you think in words?

Author:	Grim... [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:18 ]
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I dunno. I think I think in words. I have conversations with myself in my head about what I'm doing and stuff.

Author:	Cras [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:28 ]
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Do you think in word sounds though? Or words without the actual sounds those words make?

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Author:	KovacsC [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:29 ]
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ElephantBanjoGnome wrote: GUYS! You're detracting from the serious and hardcore nature of this intellectual thread remarking on the politics of the day! It's almost like you're not taking this gibbering moron seriously! Oh the irony!

Author:	Mimi [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:29 ]
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Grim... wrote: I dunno. I think I think in words. I have conversations with myself in my head about what I'm doing and stuff. THANK YOU! See, now I have had this conversation with many people through the years... I know when I think (which is rarely, I admit) that i think in full sentences and in my own voice - I hear myself in my thoughts, and it is how I sound when I am speaking out loud. As I am typing this I can hear me saying the words in my head, and if I suddenly have a thirst I hear in my head myself say 'time for a cup of tea'. Now, I first asked a question about this when I was very young and at a school where everyone else in my class was bilingual, and I asked what language they thought in: do they always think in the same language, or was it dependant on the situation (mother tongue at home, English at school), etc. Nobody could answer as they didn't know what language they thought in which I thought bizarre. I asked the same question of some friends at university, and still nobody could actually say, which I have always thought rather odd. I've had conversations with Russell, friends, many other people about how they 'hear' themselves think, and nobody seems to really know if they do, whereas I am completely and utterly certain that I do, so then I started to wonder if I was just weird and thought in a different way to other people or if nobody else noticed how they thoughts, or something else.

Author:	KovacsC [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:30 ]
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Grim... wrote: ... How do deaf people think? I mean, when I think, I think in words. Do you think they think the same? They can read, so would know the words, just possibly not the sound of the words.

Author:	Curiosity [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:33 ]
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I have spoken to multilingual people about this too, and they have all said they usually think in the language they are using, unless it's something that would either be more convenient in their native language or is just complicated.

Author:	GazChap [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:40 ]
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I think in words and sentences too. Not very visual, me.

Author:	Mimi [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 12:47 ]
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Curiosity wrote: I have spoken to multilingual people about this too, and they have all said they usually think in the language they are using, unless it's something that would either be more convenient in their native language or is just complicated. Oh, that's interesting. I wonder why we each got such different responses? Maybe it is because (apart from the couple of people I spoke to at university) they would have been children I spoke to, and perhaps it was too much of a consideration, or I hadn't asked in a way that they could quite grasp my question. Awesome to hear that others have thought and asked the same thing, though

Author:	Satsuma [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 13:10 ]
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I think thinking is like reading aloud in your head.

Author:	Findus Fop [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 13:12 ]
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Grim... wrote: I dunno. I think I think in words. I have conversations with myself in my head about what I'm doing and stuff. Which reminds me of this alarming revelation Grim... wrote: I used to watch Aliens at least once a week, Alien probably once a month, Alien³ perhaps five times a year. I broke more Aliens videos that I can count. I haven't actually watched Aliens on a screen for a good few years now, but if I am on a train or bus with nothing else to do I still often shut my eyes and watch it in my head.

Author:	Cras [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 13:20 ]
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Mimi wrote: I hear myself in my thoughts See, you don't really. You think you're hearing yourself thinking. But you could still be thinking that if you didn't know how the words actually sounded.

Author:	Grim... [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 13:22 ]
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Findus Fop wrote: Grim... wrote: I dunno. I think I think in words. I have conversations with myself in my head about what I'm doing and stuff. Which reminds me of this alarming revelation Grim... wrote: I used to watch Aliens at least once a week, Alien probably once a month, Alien³ perhaps five times a year. I broke more Aliens videos that I can count. I haven't actually watched Aliens on a screen for a good few years now, but if I am on a train or bus with nothing else to do I still often shut my eyes and watch it in my head. Still can. Haven't for a while, though. When I time myself I tend to run slower than the film, which is odd.

Author:	Mimi [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 13:46 ]
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Cras wrote: Mimi wrote: I hear myself in my thoughts See, you don't really. You think you're hearing yourself thinking. But you could still be thinking that if you didn't know how the words actually sounded. Well, you might not think I do because perhaps that isn't how you think, but I am really quite sure that I do. I assume that I would think in some other manner if I were deaf/bilingual, or perhaps just had a different mode of thought. Despite being quite creative, I am not a very visual person, unless it is in my own imagination. By which I mean I can't learn by watching something. I actually can't stand it: write the instructions down, however, and I can visualise from those. When I design something I can plan and chart the entire thing in my head, and then just make it and write the instructions in a way that others can interpret as I go. The reverse is true: If you put a knitting pattern for a discernible shape in front of me I can read it to tell you what it will make (I think this is similar to how some people can read sheet music and hear the tune in their head). Similar to Grim... I can also play entire favourite films (not many, but things like the Princess Bride) in my head and recall things I have seen if I close my eyes for a bit. Yet other films I watch once I cannot even recall having seen, maybe just a few days later: I seem to wipe them out if I have 'finished' with them. The number of 'I've not seen that film' conversations I have had with Russell where he will reply :We watched that last Tuesday, together!'. In the same was I remember being asked in a meting why I closed my eyes to recall a few things, and it was because I know that the information came in an email and the way I can remember what the information I needed was to close my eyes and just read through it: It depends if I thought the information was useful at the time. I'm sure that makes sense to some people and absolutely no sense to others, but I think that people's brains might just work in a different way. I know that Russell and I have spent the last few years kind of taking into my account my panic reflex in my speech, which he does not give me a hard time for at least: If I'm tired or stressed, or especially both, and I feel under pressure to speak I will just start saying words. Often it will be the think that I am looking at: microwave, table, Xbox, jellyfish, but sometimes it's where something has jumped into my thoughts and so I go for a word with the same sound at the beginning: lavender/lavatory, parmesan/party... whatever. Once when I was a bit stressed and looking for a word I was searching with the familiar 'ummmmm' sound and panicked and finished with 'brella'. It's not something I did when I was younger and I think stems from stress a few years ago, but we have learned to smile at it now without any fear of any nasty response, but (and some of you may have noticed) sometimes if I am in a group and a bit tired, or it's very noisy and loud you may find I go a bit quiet, and that's usually because I 'lose my words' as I think of it, and just need some time to catch my thoughts back up. The same happens in my head when I am tired. I hear my voice and the wrong words creep in: I know that they are teh wrong words as soon as I hear myself saying them, and sometimes I catch myself shaking my head at my inner 'wrong words' to try and work out what it is that I am thinking.

Author:	Mr Dave [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 13:47 ]
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GazChap wrote: I think in words and sentences too. Not very visual, me. I only think like that when planning words and stuff to say. Or when doing logic stuff that hasn't deconstructed itself into thinkable units.

Author:	GazChap [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 13:51 ]
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Grim... wrote: Still can. Haven't for a while, though. When I time myself I tend to run slower than the film, which is odd. Interestingly, despite my assertion above, I can also do this - not just with Aliens either, but with most other films that I've seen multiple times.

Author:	Grim... [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 15:28 ]
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Cras wrote: Mimi wrote: I hear myself in my thoughts See, you don't really. You think you're hearing yourself thinking. You think you hear yourself hearing too, and that works quite well

Author:	MaliA [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 16:34 ]
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Some things I think in English (most things), and some in French and some in German. Mostly as the phrase is shorter in foreign than English, or sounds better. Other times I think in the shower

Author:	Mr Dave [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 19:03 ]
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MaliA wrote: Some things I think in English (most things), and some in French and some in German. Mostly as the phrase is shorter in foreign than English, or sounds better. Other times I think in the shower I'm still perplexed as to why you would think in a language at all unless you were needing to communicate with someone (be it someone else or your future self). Having thoughts constrained with all the rules of language and the like, or thinking about concepts that weren't found within a language, be they structural or particulars... I'm just not sure I see the benefit.

Author:	Mimi [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 19:08 ]
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I don't think there's a benefit as such. I don't think you get to choose how it is that you think. I can't think another way.

Author:	MaliA [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 19:41 ]
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Mr Dave wrote: MaliA wrote: Some things I think in English (most things), and some in French and some in German. Mostly as the phrase is shorter in foreign than English, or sounds better. Other times I think in the shower I'm still perplexed as to why you would think in a language at all unless you were needing to communicate with someone (be it someone else or your future self). Having thoughts constrained with all the rules of language and the like, or thinking about concepts that weren't found within a language, be they structural or particulars... I'm just not sure I see the benefit. 'S like, if something happens that isn't good, my brain'll think "triste". Or if I decide that the time has come to hop on the ol' 'oss and get me out a there, my brain'll say "on y va". If I don"t care for something, i'll mutter "ganz egal" in the gray matter (contraction of "es ist mir ganz egal" which is "all the same to me"), or "entweder oder" (either or) if there is a choice or simply "Hobson's" if there is not.I tjink I have just chopped the bits of language up and maybe they are not words anymore just an expression of sentiment in the lowest energy state, constructs to get a meaning 9ver (Eminem describes this fabulously in The Art if Rap, how he views language as building locks to get a feeling across) It also means it is harder for them to know as maybe they only speak English but you cannot be too careful.

Author:	Satsuma [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 21:40 ]
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I wonder sometimes whether my dogs has thoughts in his head. Sometimes he thinks about things but I'm not sure whether he's thinking in any language or just a range of emotions that he understands.

Author:	Satsuma [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 21:44 ]
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Why have I still not seen the Art of Rap!? Someone remind me when I've got the pooty on to acquire this.

Author:	Grim... [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 21:45 ]
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Saturnalian wrote: pooty

Author:	Mr Dave [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 22:04 ]
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Grim... wrote: Saturnalian wrote: pooty It's better than 'Rig'.

Author:	Hearthly [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 22:08 ]
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How many pooties does it take to make a Private Cloud?

Author:	ApplePieOfDestiny [ Thu Aug 20, 2015 22:22 ]
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Its hard to determine whether the windows are hard to see through due to the level of shit smeared on them or easy because they've been so cleanly licked.

Author:	Bobbyaro [ Fri Aug 21, 2015 6:19 ]
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ApplePieOfDestiny wrote: Its hard to determine whether the windows are hard to see through due to the level of shit smeared on them or easy because they've been so cleanly licked. Windows 10 isn't that bad, is it?

Author:	MaliA [ Fri Aug 21, 2015 9:22 ]
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Saturnalian wrote: Why have I still not seen the Art of Rap!? Someone remind me when I've got the pooty on to acquire this. Watch it. It is super interesting.

Author:	Achilles [ Fri Aug 21, 2015 22:47 ]
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Author:	Curiosity [ Sat Aug 22, 2015 4:11 ]
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Stop disrupting this thread.

Author:	Grim... [ Sat Aug 22, 2015 11:48 ]
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MaliA wrote: Saturnalian wrote: Why have I still not seen the Art of Rap!? Someone remind me when I've got the pooty on to acquire this. Watch it. It is super interesting. I want to watch Straight Outta Crompton, but no-one wants to go with me.