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Author:  JohnCoffey [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:48 ]
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Do want...
Author:  Bobbyaro [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:09 ]
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Love this comment below:

"So this is nothing more than a special case that contains copies of all the games. ... Not really something for me to get my girlfriend as she already owns all of the games. :("
Author:  JohnCoffey [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:31 ]
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I've got them all also. In fact, I have two versions of the PC "Fallout 3", the lunch box edition, the BOS edition and the New Vegas box set.

So if it's available in the UK I will probably buy it any way, just for the nuke.
Author:  GazChap [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:35 ]
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Why bother, though? It won't include Fallout 4, so is hardly a definitive collection - they'll just grab more money off you in the future for the "ultra nuke" that includes it - probably a few months before Fallout 5 is due.

:P
Author:  Cras [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:36 ]
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JohnCoffey wrote:
I've got them all also. In fact, I have two versions of the PC "Fallout 3", the lunch box edition, the BOS edition and the New Vegas box set.

So if it's available in the UK I will probably buy it any way, just for the nuke.


Have you played 1&2? I might buy it just so I can own yet another version of those two.
Author:  JohnCoffey [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:54 ]
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GazChap wrote:
Why bother, though? It won't include Fallout 4, so is hardly a definitive collection - they'll just grab more money off you in the future for the "ultra nuke" that includes it - probably a few months before Fallout 5 is due.

:P


I don't have a choice, it's too pretty...

The only thing I don't own is the original Pip Boy clock, on account of it being a bit crap (most of them broke or didn't work from the start) and being around $600. I've got a pre order down for the Fallout 4 one, the nuke I want.

They're not stupid are they? stick a load of bargain bin games in a plastic nuke and charge £50 for it. But my collection denotes I must have it, sadly. One of these days I will take it all out of storage and set it upon some shelves I need to put up, yes.
Author:  Bobbyaro [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:04 ]
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Np, they really aren't stupid. The people who buy this crap however...?
What is it for, it is pointless tat, it has no value and offers nothing useful, it doesn't even look nice half the time.
Author:  MaliA [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:14 ]
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Like my mum
Author:  Bamba [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 12:39 ]
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GazChap wrote:
Why bother, though? It won't include Fallout 4, so is hardly a definitive collection - they'll just grab more money off you in the future for the "ultra nuke" that includes it - probably a few months before Fallout 5 is due.

:P


Apparently there's space in the bomb box to put Fallout 4 into it.
Author:  JohnCoffey [ Fri Jul 24, 2015 14:49 ]
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Bobbyaro wrote:
Np, they really aren't stupid. The people who buy this crap however...?
What is it for, it is pointless tat, it has no value and offers nothing useful, it doesn't even look nice half the time.


It makes me happy. If you think that's stupid? fair enough. TBH I'll take all the fuckin' happiness I can get.

I agree with you, it is stupid. Totally stupid. I always used to go round my mate's house and think "What a stupid cunt, he's got collector's editions everywhere "

And then I played Fallout 3 and realised what it was to truly submerge myself into it. And because of that they have me by the bollocks. But, as I said, it does make me happy. Very very happy. Even now I look over my collection from time to time and reminisce all of the wonderful, wonderful moments in the game. You can't put a price on that.. Bethesda have earned my money for all their shit they sell.
Author:  JohnCoffey [ Wed Jul 29, 2015 13:24 ]
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Something we sorta knew any way, Fallout 4 was basically done before it was announced.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/fallou ... 0-6429241/
Author:  zaphod79 [ Wed Jul 29, 2015 13:52 ]
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JohnCoffey wrote:
Something we sorta knew any way, Fallout 4 was basically done before it was announced.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/fallou ... 0-6429241/


I really expected the announcement for it mid last year (there were a lot of rumors leading up to one of the big award shows) - no idea why they held back the announcement like they did but it does not really matter its a day 1 buy regardless.
Author:  JohnCoffey [ Wed Jul 29, 2015 13:59 ]
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zaphod79 wrote:
JohnCoffey wrote:
Something we sorta knew any way, Fallout 4 was basically done before it was announced.

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/fallou ... 0-6429241/


I really expected the announcement for it mid last year (there were a lot of rumors leading up to one of the big award shows) - no idea why they held back the announcement like they did but it does not really matter its a day 1 buy regardless.


I think they have just learned not to put on pressure or deadlines tbh. Best to just 'do a Valve' and get it all ready and stable before even announcing it.
Author:  myp [ Wed Jul 29, 2015 14:28 ]
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I'm preparing for this by playing the original Fallout. Gosh, it's a bit different.
Author:  JohnCoffey [ Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:52 ]
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http://www.gamespot.com/articles/fallou ... 0-6429400/

400+ hours of content....
Author:  lasermink [ Wed Aug 05, 2015 12:56 ]
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I suppose that's nice if you don't have or like any other games. I have literally dozens, if not hundreds, of games waiting to be played... I spent 67 hours on Fallout 3 (according to Steam), and that was more than enough.
Author:  JohnCoffey [ Fri Aug 07, 2015 11:18 ]
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No level cap or "hard finish"

http://www.overclock3d.net/articles/gpu ... d_finish/1
Author:  asfish [ Fri Sep 04, 2015 10:48 ]
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https://twitter.com/BethesdaStudios/sta ... 52/photo/1

111,000 lines of voice recording for it!
Author:  JohnCoffey [ Fri Sep 04, 2015 12:06 ]
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That's actually insane.

My PC is ready, just countin' the days now :D
Author:  DavPaz [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 7:49 ]
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Should I play these fallout games, then?
Author:  Bamba [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:39 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
Should I play these fallout games, then?


Nah, they're shit.
Author:  myp [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:40 ]
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Bamba wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
Should I play these fallout games, then?


Nah, they're shit.

I was going to type this exact phrase. :D
Author:  DavPaz [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 8:55 ]
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Future Warrior wrote:
Bamba wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
Should I play these fallout games, then?


Nah, they're shit.

I was going to type this exact phrase. :D

Oh, you two.
Author:  MaliA [ Thu Sep 10, 2015 9:03 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
Future Warrior wrote:
Bamba wrote:
DavPaz wrote:
Should I play these fallout games, then?


Nah, they're shit.

I was going to type this exact phrase. :D

Oh, you two.


Makes me want to puke.
Author:  JohnCoffey [ Sat Sep 12, 2015 14:54 ]
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Fallout 4 to have weather.

http://www.pcgamer.com/fallout-4s-todd- ... new-video/

Looks pretty sweet ! There was a weather add on for Fallout 3 but the engine really couldn't handle it and it made the game run very slowly.

Nice to see it become an integral part of the game !
Author:  Satsuma [ Sat Sep 12, 2015 14:56 ]
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JohnCoffey wrote:

Nice to see it become an integral part of the game !


Cosmetic.
Author:  JohnCoffey [ Sat Sep 12, 2015 15:10 ]
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Saturnalian wrote:
JohnCoffey wrote:

Nice to see it become an integral part of the game !


Cosmetic.


Not when it can fill you with radiation ;)
Author:  Satsuma [ Sat Sep 12, 2015 15:26 ]
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No, you're right. He did say that radiation could blow in. My apologises.
Author:  Cras [ Sun Sep 13, 2015 0:49 ]
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That would irritate the shit out of me. How is it fun to spend 20 minutes indoors waiting for a storm to pass?
Author:  Bobbyaro [ Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:49 ]
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I read that as it would irradiate the shit out of me.

Also, who cares, the radiation never meant anything other than some clicks on you Geiger counter. You sound turn into a ghoul if you get too much, or die.
Author:  JohnCoffey [ Sun Sep 13, 2015 13:00 ]
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Cras wrote:
That would irritate the shit out of me. How is it fun to spend 20 minutes indoors waiting for a storm to pass?


In STALKER it was really annoying because there weren't many places you could hide. In a Fallout game? Well near on everything is open for exploration so it could work really well. One of the things I loved about FO3 was the way it could wave something else in your face that would make you forget what you were doing.
Author:  Satsuma [ Sun Sep 13, 2015 13:37 ]
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Didn't STALKER just have zones you couldn't realistically enter unless you were wearing the best radiation kit? I can't remember any passing radiation storms or nowt like that and it hasn't been long since I played it.
Author:  JohnCoffey [ Sun Sep 13, 2015 14:26 ]
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From what I recall the radiation storms were in Clear Sky but disabled.

It was Call of Pripyat which had them in from the start and if you were out in the fields miles from anywhere they really were annoying.

I can see it working a lot better in Fallout because there will be more places to hide. They should have those little coin operated shelters FO3 had only this time they could be more useful than novelty.

Will just have to remember to stock up on Rad X and Radaway :)
Author:  zaphod79 [ Fri Oct 02, 2015 15:27 ]
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Nice story around some of the Fallout origins and how much links back to Wasteland

http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2015/10/02/unco ... ue-origins
Author:  JohnCoffey [ Fri Oct 02, 2015 16:25 ]
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I'm literally counting the days now for this game :)
Author:  JohnCoffey [ Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:33 ]
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Spent an hour or so watching the interview vids and most of the S.P.E.C.I.A.L videos before thinking they were getting a bit samey (funny though).

I really like the idea of it having elements of Minecraft in it. I've never played Minecraft so that could be kinda fun. Not too sure about having to keep going back repairing things though, that may grate.

Just one more month...
Author:  MaliA [ Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:47 ]
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Wait, what?
Author:  MaliA [ Tue Oct 06, 2015 12:47 ]
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JohnCoffey wrote:
I really like the idea of it having elements of Minecraft in it. I've never played Minecraft so that could be kinda fun. Not too sure about having to keep going back repairing things though, that may grate.


Stop.
Zoom. Enhance.
Author:  JohnCoffey [ Tue Oct 06, 2015 15:08 ]
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MaliA wrote:
JohnCoffey wrote:
I really like the idea of it having elements of Minecraft in it. I've never played Minecraft so that could be kinda fun. Not too sure about having to keep going back repairing things though, that may grate.


Stop.
Zoom. Enhance.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iYgmAfuf9o

Make sure you watch both.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DblGy8luo4

It seems that you can either pick a place to live that's pre built or, which would be bundles more fun, pick a location (there are some marked out) and then develop it yourself. You need to fit turrets and stuff and then wire them all up. They then get attacked by Raiders and so on and so you have to repair them.
Author:  Satsuma [ Tue Oct 06, 2015 15:39 ]
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If any of that comes to Dark Souls that'll be the day I stop playing Dark Souls.
Author:  Bamba [ Tue Oct 06, 2015 15:47 ]
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I'll be ignoring it and the exact same thing that's also in the new Metal Gear game.
Author:  JohnCoffey [ Wed Oct 07, 2015 15:12 ]
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Yeah I have to say my immediate reaction to it was "WTF?!?!".

Thing is, I really wanted there to be more places to live in Fallout 3. I had my house in Megaton but wished there were more places to set up home and store all of my wonderful things I had found. It was a bit of a pain going back to Megaton all the time, even though fast travel was quick.

I did find a tent close to the Enclave HQ which did have a storage locker in it but sadly it was not on the map so I would have to walk from the closest landmark.

I'm looking at Fallout 4 now and am actually feeling a little overwhelmed. The same thing happened to me when I played Fallout 3. I had never played an RPG before in my life and trying to take it all in and working everything out did overwhelm me at one point. I did not know how to use VATS (that'll teach me for not paying attention) and I wandered off and found myself engrossed in the quest where you have to rescue Brian from the fire ants and take him to Rivet City (which I had not discovered yet) but also kill all of the ants and do the side quest down in the Metro.

Gotta say, I almost gave up. I did eventually stumble across VATS and finally realised how it worked and from there on it was a sheer learning process for all of the amazing things the game had in store for me.

Having to mess around building? I will probably leave that until I have established a good foot hold in the game. Like Fallout 3 I am going to have to really pay attention so that I don't feel completely overwhelmed.

Also knowing Bethesda? well put it this way. They've spent around three to five years depending on who you believe doing nothing but designing this game and putting ideas into it. The graphic engine was already done, so yeah, three to five years on nothing but pure content. Hopefully the land mass will be far bigger than it was in Fallout 3.

/Morgan Freeman.. I hope.... I hope....

Either way? well basically I have pretty much stopped gaming all together. So if this game is not what I am expecting I will probably down my controller for good. I'm just sick of all of the samey wank that keeps being released. I don't feel excited by the Indie scene at all and have grown terribly impatient waiting for gaming technology to develop. Over the past decade there are only really three or four games that have changed how I think about gaming and that's not fucking enough.

The gaming industry used to be exciting, and for a while in the late 90s and early noughties it felt exciting and fresh as games like Half Life came out. The thing is I have played Half Life using the Cinematic Mod and when you put it up against the very latest offerings using cutting edge graphics there really isn't anything new in there at all.

I know there were RPGs before Fallout 3 but I had never played them and from all accounts they were a little ropey. Oblivion is it? Then all of a sudden they totally got it right. Everything about Fallout 3 was ingenious and perfect and it all worked. So I'm hoping they have added in things that work (like Minecraft) but have managed to balance it out so that it does work and doesn't just feel like Minecraft.

Ugh. There is just so much riding on this game...
Author:  Cras [ Wed Oct 07, 2015 15:22 ]
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I love your enthusiasm for this, man, and I'm equally excited.

However, this is a travesty!

Quote:
I know there were RPGs before Fallout 3 but I had never played them and from all accounts they were a little ropey.


I mean, the 90s and early 00's gave us some of the greatest RPGs of all time - not least Fallout 1 and 2!

:)
Author:  Morte [ Wed Oct 07, 2015 15:34 ]
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Yep, not going to be as good as FO2...I bet there is no option to appear in gonzo "art house" films in FO4.
Author:  JohnCoffey [ Wed Oct 07, 2015 15:40 ]
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I tried to play them once I had completely exhausted myself in Fallout 3 and FONV. I mean like really obsessively. I had walked every last square millimeter of the landscape, visited every single building and completely absolutely every quest. Sadly I found Fallout rather odd and Fallout 2 a little boring. I guess I missed the boat on them and by the time I got to play them they were just a little too dated. I like seeing game technology move on.

Fallout 3 just felt like the best FPS ever but with so much more in it. I must have played it through completely (with all of the DLC) about thirty times at least. I played through as a nice guy, bad guy, sneaky git, black widow type female, nice female etc.

I really should not have had the time to play them as much as I did tbh.

What I did expect was Fallout 4 to have come far sooner than it has. Eventually I'd exhausted both FO3 and FONV (and I mean exhausted, both in theory and in myself) and then just sat waiting for FO4 patiently. The thing is I guess with FO3 and NV I had finally found what I liked to play. Then when I wanted more of it there was nothing to be found. I tried Skyrim and even though I found it absolutely excellent it just wasn't what I wanted to play. Dragons and spells? ugh. I'm an Aspie, so it was far too fantasist for me. Fallout 3? it could happen. Not in the way FO3 actually happens but it's something real.

Fallout 3 for me was a massive step forward in gaming. I guess it was for every one really. Finally an RPG that doesn't mean you need to be Harry Potter to like it.

Since then nothing has really grabbed me. I've tried really hard to like these games people rave on about (most recently The Witcher 3) but they're just not my thing. Nowhere near lonely enough.

As I say I just hope that Fallout 4 contains those moments that make your face light up. There were so many times I just sat there smiling from ear to ear.. Absolute gaming magic.

So yeah, just hoping that it lives up to my expectations really and doesn't feel like a cop out on a newer engine. I do have faith though.. Apparently Skyrim was absolutely fucking mind blowing compared to Oblivion. Not that I'd know. I did complete Skyrim but very quickly and very crudely. I never did anything more than the game wanted me to do to see it through to the end, so I suppose I really missed out but how can you miss out on something you don't feel a part of?

I already know the graphics are not going to be mind blowing. Thing is, compared to something like Crysis Fallout 3 actually looks pretty wank. But there were still things in that game that looked downright incredible. I would constantly take screenshots standing on a large patch of burnt brown ground with the sun breaking through the trees. Really some absolutely beautiful sights to behold, even though the engine was a bit wank.

I've prepared myself well.. Latest hardware, more than enough. A new cushion for my chair to take eight to ten hour sits and a new Xbox wireless controller (I'm still using the beige wired one I got in 2008). Good coffee is on hand...

I'm ready :D
Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Oct 07, 2015 15:48 ]
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Now, now, no need to Fallout.
Author:  TheCookie197 [ Wed Oct 07, 2015 17:34 ]
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For PC players, CD Keys has a Steam code pre-order for £26.99, which is £9 less than the cheapest I've seen. (£35.99 at GAME and Amazon) Although, I think the GAME and Amazon versions come on disk.
Author:  Satsuma [ Wed Oct 07, 2015 17:52 ]
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Quote:
Thing is, I really wanted there to be more places to live in Fallout 3. I had my house in Megaton but wished there were more places to set up home and store all of my wonderful things I had found


I've played this and I can't think of anything if picked up that I wanted to store &/or display in a house. :S

And why would I want to display something that absolutely no one would ever see. Cripes, that sounds like the most pointless thing ever.
Author:  JohnCoffey [ Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:01 ]
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Saturnalian wrote:
Quote:
Thing is, I really wanted there to be more places to live in Fallout 3. I had my house in Megaton but wished there were more places to set up home and store all of my wonderful things I had found


I've played this and I can't think of anything if picked up that I wanted to store &/or display in a house. :S

And why would I want to display something that absolutely no one would ever see. Cripes, that sounds like the most pointless thing ever.


Really? So you didn't find any or all of the very special weapons in the game? like the Xuanlong Assault Rifle, Experimental MIRV or any of those? how about Lincoln's Repeater? They were all about twice as powerful as their standard counterpart.

I was also a Nuka Grenade factory and having tons of abraxo cleaner and empty tin cans was kind of impractical so I had a box in the house where I used to store all of the ingredients for that, as well as the Nuka Cola Quantum (I also had the perk that turns ten Nuka Cola into one Quantum, so Nuka Grenades were a solid part of my arsenal).

As for not wanting to display things to look at? the amount of grief you have to go through to get some of this stuff makes you want to proudly display it especially the Bobble heads.
Author:  Bamba [ Thu Oct 08, 2015 11:08 ]
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Storing things is certainly fair enough as you can't carry everything around with you but I'm as baffled as Craster at the idea of 'displaying' stuff you've found. It's weird enough in something like GTA online where you can actually show off your stuff to other people but in a single player game especially it's not a factor I've ever found compelling.
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