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Author:  Grim... [ Thu Mar 31, 2016 13:55 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
Japanese controls

What are they?

Can you not change them?
Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Mar 31, 2016 14:22 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Mr Dave wrote:
Japanese controls

What are they?

Can you not change them?


When the PS controller was designed, the symbols on the buttons were supposed to have a specific meaning. Triangle was something to fo with Angles. Most notably, however, X was reject and O was Accept. So it is on Japanese games. For some reason, they decided to reverse those two buttons in the west.

I vaguely remember hearing that on the ps4, it was set on a hardware level (So Japanese consoles would behave differently to English ones) but it appears not.

I couldn't spot an option on the menu, (although, as I wouldn't expect one - because there never is, I didn't bother to read every single option). I've got used to it on other Japanese games, so it shouldn't be a problem after the first couple of hours or so, based on the other import games I've played.
Author:  TheVision [ Thu Mar 31, 2016 14:28 ]
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If I recall correctly X was accept, O was reject, Square was a map/inventory and Triangle was for camera angles.
Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Mar 31, 2016 14:35 ]
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Well, in my lunch hour, I beat up a vicious blue thing down a forboding path, and beat up the first boss of the game (First time. Having gone in with only one estus flask like some kind of mad man.)

I did not have very much health by the end of it...

ZOMG Spoiler! Click here to view!
Attachment:
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Full videoing here:

https://www.twitch.tv/mrdavexxviii/v/57760207
Author:  Grim... [ Thu Mar 31, 2016 14:44 ]
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I seem to recall Final Fantasy 7 having O for accept and X for reject.
Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Mar 31, 2016 14:55 ]
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Grim... wrote:
I seem to recall Final Fantasy 7 having O for accept and X for reject.

Yeah, that be the Japanese scheme. It's fair to say minimal effort was put into the localisation of FFVII.



As I say, you get used to it, but it does throw you for a little bit when you change between the two.
Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Mar 31, 2016 15:00 ]
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TheVision wrote:
If I recall correctly X was accept, O was reject, Square was a map/inventory and Triangle was for camera angles.

As far as I'm aware, X and O were the other way around by the original design - The playstation being a Japanese console. X being a fairly international symbol for wrong, and O being a somewhat less international symbol for Correct. (Although it is an oddity they made O red and X blue)
Author:  Cras [ Thu Mar 31, 2016 15:09 ]
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Image
Author:  myp [ Thu Mar 31, 2016 15:12 ]
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Cras wrote:
Image

Professor cross.
Author:  Satsuma [ Thu Mar 31, 2016 15:22 ]
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Metal Gear Solid was one of those that used the Japanese accept/reject in its early days. Reet confusing it woh.
Author:  Zardoz [ Thu Mar 31, 2016 15:55 ]
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You fucking hipster, Mr Dave.
Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Mar 31, 2016 15:58 ]
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Cras wrote:
Gah. Do I get this? I liked DS a lot, got bored of DS2, and really didn't like Bloodborne.

So far (which is admittedly not very far), it does feel very dark soulsy. Plus, it teaches you how to kick.

Attachment:
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See?

Although the tutorial does put a warning telling you to turn back on an optional path that leads to a certain amount of pain. Which is a bit more in your face than the warnings tend to be.
Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Mar 31, 2016 15:59 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
You fucking hipster, Mr Dave.

I was into dark souls 3 weeks before anyone else.

:hipster:
Author:  Cras [ Thu Mar 31, 2016 16:08 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
Plus, it teaches you how to kick.


The Dark Souls tutorial had a bit explaining how to do a move that you can't actually do if you start the game as a dex build. Which is nice.
Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Mar 31, 2016 16:13 ]
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Cras wrote:
Mr Dave wrote:
Plus, it teaches you how to kick.


The Dark Souls tutorial had a bit explaining how to do a move that you can't actually do if you start the game as a dex build. Which is nice.

It's almost as if I'm referencing that...

Not that I tried to kick to see if it actually worked. (On a pyromancer build)
Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Mar 31, 2016 17:50 ]
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This is absolutely brutal.
Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Mar 31, 2016 19:44 ]
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Well, reached the second boss. It was a rather tough fight to get this far. Reminds me of playing the first Dark Souls in that regard.

The difference being, of course, that I have completed Dark Souls, Dark Souls 2, Demon Souls and Bloodborne. (And also played Lords of the fallen, before I stopped playing it for shitness reasons) So I fear quite what a newcomer would make of it.

Of course, there were more than a few deaths caused by the roll button being a different button from what I expected (And one death caused by the gesture menu insisting on being in the way, and yeah, the cancel button didn't do what I expected there either. (Apparently pointing at the man with a big sword does not stop him from applying that sword to your face. Who knew)

A few problems that need to be sorted out too. Having nearly beaten a man who was causing me some problems, I rolled into a wall. Ad then couldn't get out and he smacked me to the deaths. Fortunately, Karma had its way and next time he bugged out and just remained still doing nothing while I returned the deathly favour.
Author:  Cras [ Thu Mar 31, 2016 20:07 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
Cras wrote:
Mr Dave wrote:
Plus, it teaches you how to kick.


The Dark Souls tutorial had a bit explaining how to do a move that you can't actually do if you start the game as a dex build. Which is nice.

It's almost as if I'm referencing that...

Not that I tried to kick to see if it actually worked. (On a pyromancer build)


Oh, heh :)
Author:  Mr Dave [ Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:31 ]
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Cras wrote:
Mr Dave wrote:
Cras wrote:
Mr Dave wrote:
Plus, it teaches you how to kick.


The Dark Souls tutorial had a bit explaining how to do a move that you can't actually do if you start the game as a dex build. Which is nice.

It's almost as if I'm referencing that...

Not that I tried to kick to see if it actually worked. (On a pyromancer build)


Oh, heh :)

It does work on my build,you'll be pleased to know . In honour of you, I've been kicking bad mens before Killing them (and not at all to do with hitting the wrong button for a jumping attack, honest)

Second boss is down. Took a few more attempts for this one. There was much wooting among the 8 people watching me.

Unsurprisingly, given how long it's been out, there aren't that many useful signs on the ground. (and also, so far, no deliberately malicious ones. Culture difference?)
Author:  zaphod79 [ Fri Apr 01, 2016 13:25 ]
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Hmmm -cant really get this to embed correctly

Link http://i.imgur.com/Blr8Ppg.webm


http://i.imgur.com/Blr8Ppg.webm
Author:  Grim... [ Fri Apr 01, 2016 14:17 ]
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Bwahahaha!
Author:  zaphod79 [ Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:24 ]
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Review : http://www.thejimquisition.com/dark-souls-iii-review/
Author:  zaphod79 [ Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:31 ]
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And looks like the others have all gone live as well

Metacritic - 90

IGN - 9.5

PC Gamer - 94/100

Gameinformer - 9.25/10

Gamesradar - 9/10

Metro - 9/10

Destructoid - 8.5/10

Gamespot - 8/10

Polygon - 7/10
Author:  myp [ Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:31 ]
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I watched Mr Dave play some of this on Saturday. I couldn't get my Twitch account to log in so I couldn't leave him abuse though.
Author:  Mr Dave [ Mon Apr 04, 2016 10:39 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
I watched Mr Dave play some of this on Saturday. I couldn't get my Twitch account to log in so I couldn't leave him abuse though.

About the time I was failing to kill a tree, I guess?

Next time, that tree is mine.
Author:  myp [ Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:10 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:
Lonewolves wrote:
I watched Mr Dave play some of this on Saturday. I couldn't get my Twitch account to log in so I couldn't leave him abuse though.

About the time I was failing to kill a tree, I guess?

Next time, that tree is mine.

Yes, it was very funny watching you fail at that. Get arboreal.
Author:  Mr Dave [ Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:15 ]
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The final attempt was annoying. I nearly had it but was rushing as I needed to leave, then pressed the wrong roll button again.
Author:  Mr Dave [ Mon Apr 04, 2016 23:07 ]
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Biggest disappointment so far: Horse does not appear to be on the list of body parts. (I believe there's something similar, which they probably translated to horse - 乗騎, which seems to translate as mount from the usage I've seen, but it's not in any dictionary that I've tried (even the japanese ones). And certainly not horsey enough for my liking)

This means I've had to go around leaving messages informing people that buttocks are necessary.

So far, I have no up ratings on these comments.
Author:  zaphod79 [ Mon Apr 04, 2016 23:11 ]
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Mr Dave wrote:

This means I've had to go around leaving messages informing people that buttocks are necessary.


I assume you've seen this (sorta NSFW from Kotaku)

http://kotaku.com/dark-souls-3s-butt-glitch-1768855876

Dark Souls 3 - Butt Glitch
Author:  Mr Dave [ Mon Apr 04, 2016 23:17 ]
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Nope, not seen that.

Butt it just proves my point.
Author:  Mr Dave [ Tue Apr 05, 2016 21:11 ]
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I finally killed that sodding tree.



Worst Dark Souls Boss Ever.
Author:  Satsuma [ Tue Apr 05, 2016 21:50 ]
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Can you, like, stop posting until it's out and I've started playing it? K'thx'bai.
Author:  Zardoz [ Tue Apr 05, 2016 22:26 ]
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:this:

You twat.
Author:  Mr Dave [ Tue Apr 05, 2016 22:46 ]
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Zardoz sucks balls


I've only cleared three bosses so far. Going has been slow.
Author:  Mr Dave [ Wed Apr 06, 2016 7:30 ]
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Ian finds cows sexually attractive.
Author:  DavPaz [ Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:25 ]
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Ian can't use spoiler tags
Author:  Mr Dave [ Wed Apr 06, 2016 13:18 ]
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Ian finds bulls sexually attractive
Author:  Zardoz [ Wed Apr 06, 2016 13:47 ]
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Mr Dave is the Table


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And is a gay


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a gay table
Author:  Mr Dave [ Wed Apr 06, 2016 14:09 ]
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I'd watch out, this one might contain dark souls 3 spoilers

Annoyingly, the only benefit of killing the tree was some kind of soul transmutation device. Which I can't use. And not enough souls to level うp。
Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:35 ]
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Just for Ian and the like, some more videos of me killing hard things.

First off, what appears to be the mother of all crystal lizards.

It's down a path which had a tutorial note on it suggesting that I pull back. But at the time, it was the only path I could find (I was being particularly blind this day, apparently). It hit hard, and I was rather expecting it to be like the 1st boss of Demon souls (You're supposed to die, but it is beatable) so I didn't try that hard not to die. And I died, and nothing happened. So attempt two:



Which, of course, gives an upgrade material (Crystal lizard, yo) but no path forwards. Leaving me not quite sure where to go next. It turns out what I thought was a cliff was just a trick of the light.
Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Apr 07, 2016 10:44 ]
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And look at this, videos of the first two bosses. The first was easy (1st attempt)


The second took just under an hour of attempts. First phase is easy, second phase, not so much.
Author:  zaphod79 [ Fri Apr 08, 2016 15:09 ]
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Quote:

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Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Apr 08, 2016 15:18 ]
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Im allowed to get it when I get paid.
Author:  Pundabaya [ Fri Apr 08, 2016 16:49 ]
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So... is it anywhere near as good as Bloodborne?
Author:  Mr Dave [ Fri Apr 08, 2016 17:49 ]
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Pundabaya wrote:
So... is it anywhere near as good as Bloodborne?

A bit early to tell.

It's not bad.
Author:  Mr Dave [ Fri Apr 08, 2016 19:26 ]
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From yesterday, 4th boss what I done met. Killed. Twice. Not too difficult, but quite easy to get hit by lots of spells towards the end and lose all your health.
Author:  Mr Dave [ Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:53 ]
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Man, only one more day of smugness.

A word of advice w.r.t builds...


If, like me, you go for a pyromancer, don't expect to go for a big bashy man with extra bonus flames, like you could in dark souls 1. Powerful pyromancy does require more than a glove now.

This has caused me to be fairly underlevelled for the whole game so far.

Currently at

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Irushiiru of the Icy Valley (which is almost certainly transliterated differently, but still). Bugger me those spinny people hit fast. And the dog thing is a right chompy bugger.

Boss to get there was a right dick. Not a particular fan of the timed boss idea in general, and had to spend lots to create a big bashy club that could destroy him before the room became uninhabitable. With that he were piss easy.
Author:  Zardoz [ Mon Apr 11, 2016 12:56 ]
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Im going to try my best to not do my usual thing of going for a pyromacer build morphing over to medium weight sorcerer / hexer with long reached weapon.
Author:  Zardoz [ Mon Apr 11, 2016 12:58 ]
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Does the new weapon style/stance thingy make much difference, Mr Dave?
Author:  Mr Dave [ Mon Apr 11, 2016 13:13 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
Does the new weapon style/stance thingy make much difference, Mr Dave?

Honestly, I've forgotten it's there for the most part as I usually have a shield ready instead, and the arts on the weapons I use aren't the greatest. (reduce damage? Pffft.) the FP generally gets used for pyromancy if anything (flamey halberd joy).

Having said that, I don't know what the art is on my new smashy club. And given how long it can take to read what each skill is, I only know the weapons I use, so there may be all kinds of awesome that I'm missing.
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