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If you mean boycotting the next world cup, I'm not convinced they do. They only people they really have to court are the fans, and I'm willing to bet there would be a whole lot more football fans fucked off by a boycott than fucked off by the implicit support of corruption that not not boycotting provides.

What matters to me more than anything is that when all of this is over, football is the winner.

Allegations of match-fixing would be far more serious as far as fans are concerned. At least the World Cup is a pretty clean tournament on the field.*

*Posting this in the expectation that my illusions will be shattered

I think it was just Spain and Russia from UEFA.

Russia for obvious reasons, Spain for quite likely equally nefarious reasons.

‘We believe as many as 18 Europeans may have voted for Blatter,’ said a source close to Prince Ali, who polled 73 votes to Blatter’s 133. It is understood a chunk of his 73 ballots came from the Americas.

One veteran FIFA insider told the Mail on Sunday that Blatter’s supporters within Europe include Turkey, Cyprus, Finland, as well as France, Spain and Russia.

The European mutiny cast new light on next Saturday’s UEFA emergency session in Berlin on the sidelines of the Champions League final.

Your graphic proves nothing. It's probably all coincidence.

Curiosity wrote:

I think it was just Spain and Russia from UEFA.

Russia for obvious reasons, Spain for quite likely equally nefarious reasons.

OK I know it's the Daily Mail (sorry), but it's only bloody football etc.

Quote:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... ident.html

Hearthly wrote:

Your graphic proves nothing. It's probably all coincidence.

The entirity of his defence when campaigning for reelection appears to be "elect me because I had no idea about the incredibly widespread corruption throughout my organisation." Even at purely face value, that makes him incompetent.

Sorry Doc should have put a smiley on my post, I was agreeing with your point in a deadpan manner

Hearthly wrote:

Sorry Doc should have put a smiley on my post, I was agreeing with your point in a deadpan manner

Oh, yes, I know. Nothing goes over my head. My reflexes are too fast. I would catch it.

Looks like Blatter won't escape by resigning anyway

Author:	asfish [ Wed May 27, 2015 16:02 ]
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So not surprised to see the FIFA bosses are under investigation One thing that surprises me is that its the US that have kicked it off once again, (they also pushed the exchange rate fixing fines as well) The Swiss are now playing catch up and looking into the last 2 deals done for World cup hosts Stinks really but doubt anybody will do any time, most of the people arrests are in their 70's or 80's

Author:	Dr Lave [ Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:00 ]
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I loved that FIFA guy using an Onion Headline as a defence against the charges. It must be really hard to like football when it is so institutionally corrupt.

Author:	MaliA [ Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:01 ]
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The FA now faces an interesting dilemma.

Author:	Cras [ Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:06 ]
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If you mean boycotting the next world cup, I'm not convinced they do. They only people they really have to court are the fans, and I'm willing to bet there would be a whole lot more football fans fucked off by a boycott than fucked off by the implicit support of corruption that not not boycotting provides.

Author:	Morte [ Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:32 ]
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It could be spun that all loses during qualifying will be protests against FIFA Corruption.

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Author:	MaliA [ Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:48 ]
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Cras wrote: If you mean boycotting the next world cup, I'm not convinced they do. They only people they really have to court are the fans, and I'm willing to bet there would be a whole lot more football fans fucked off by a boycott than fucked off by the implicit support of corruption that not not boycotting provides. Yes I suppose. But "We play in this tournament which is tainted by corruption as a service to fans"isn't convincing to me.

Author:	Kern [ Mon Jun 01, 2015 9:53 ]
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Allegations of match-fixing would be far more serious as far as fans are concerned. At least the World Cup is a pretty clean tournament on the field.* *Posting this in the expectation that my illusions will be shattered

Author:	Grim... [ Tue Jun 02, 2015 17:48 ]
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Sep Blatter has resigned.

Author:	Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Jun 02, 2015 18:18 ]
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I wonder why.

Author:	Hearthly [ Tue Jun 02, 2015 18:37 ]
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You dreadful cynic Doc, it's because he loves football so much, he even said so in his statement. Quote: What matters to me more than anything is that when all of this is over, football is the winner. Your graphic proves nothing. It's probably all coincidence.

Author:	Curiosity [ Tue Jun 02, 2015 18:52 ]
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Kern wrote: Allegations of match-fixing would be far more serious as far as fans are concerned. At least the World Cup is a pretty clean tournament on the field.* *Posting this in the expectation that my illusions will be shattered There have certainly been some questionable happenings in the past, especially with Korea's surprisingly good results when they hosted, but on the whole you'd hope so. Also, the FIFA pyramid thing is awesome, but isn't the entire organisation. So happy Blatter is gone, but not yet convinced that it will all suddenly become ethics central. His nepotism in the job was hilariously obvious.

Author:	Cavey [ Tue Jun 02, 2015 19:02 ]
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I think I read somewhere that a whole bunch of European FIFA member states STILL voted for this guy, e.g. the French and Spanish..? OK I'm not a "footie" person, but FFS. Ian Hislop made me laugh on HIGNFY, something along the lines of "... sorry, I didn't realise FIFA had anything to do with football" Ironic that it appears it's taken the Americans to finally sort this; shame none of the 'great footballing nations' had the guts to do it, even assuming they were bothered in the first place. To a bemused and amused outside observer, then, what a laughable, stinking cesspit the whole thing is.

Author:	Curiosity [ Tue Jun 02, 2015 19:15 ]
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I think it was just Spain and Russia from UEFA. Russia for obvious reasons, Spain for quite likely equally nefarious reasons.

Author:	Cavey [ Tue Jun 02, 2015 19:26 ]
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Curiosity wrote: I think it was just Spain and Russia from UEFA. Russia for obvious reasons, Spain for quite likely equally nefarious reasons. OK I know it's the Daily Mail (sorry), but it's only bloody football etc. Quote: ‘We believe as many as 18 Europeans may have voted for Blatter,’ said a source close to Prince Ali, who polled 73 votes to Blatter’s 133. It is understood a chunk of his 73 ballots came from the Americas. One veteran FIFA insider told the Mail on Sunday that Blatter’s supporters within Europe include Turkey, Cyprus, Finland, as well as France, Spain and Russia. The European mutiny cast new light on next Saturday’s UEFA emergency session in Berlin on the sidelines of the Champions League final. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... ident.html

Author:	GazChap [ Tue Jun 02, 2015 19:36 ]
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Yeah, that graphic is the one I alluded to in my post on the other thread about this. If he was unaware of the corruption that literally every single person directly under him was involved with, then that's a whole other level of incompetence. I would imagine most of the countries voting for Blatter in the election are either receiving back handers and don't want that to come out, or Blatter knows some serious shit about people within their ranks.

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Author:	Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Jun 02, 2015 19:26 ]
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Hearthly wrote: Your graphic proves nothing. It's probably all coincidence. The entirity of his defence when campaigning for reelection appears to be "elect me because I had no idea about the incredibly widespread corruption throughout my organisation." Even at purely face value, that makes him incompetent.

Author:	Curiosity [ Tue Jun 02, 2015 19:54 ]
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Cavey wrote: Curiosity wrote: I think it was just Spain and Russia from UEFA. Russia for obvious reasons, Spain for quite likely equally nefarious reasons. OK I know it's the Daily Mail (sorry), but it's only bloody football etc. Quote: ‘We believe as many as 18 Europeans may have voted for Blatter,’ said a source close to Prince Ali, who polled 73 votes to Blatter’s 133. It is understood a chunk of his 73 ballots came from the Americas. One veteran FIFA insider told the Mail on Sunday that Blatter’s supporters within Europe include Turkey, Cyprus, Finland, as well as France, Spain and Russia. The European mutiny cast new light on next Saturday’s UEFA emergency session in Berlin on the sidelines of the Champions League final. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footba ... ident.html Fair enough. The problem with hoping for change when electing an official who might bribe those voting is that they are inevitably susceptible to bribery! I believe each African FA received 750k not long back, and very little made it to the 'grass roots' level for which it was allegedly intended.

Author:	Achilles [ Wed Jun 03, 2015 2:00 ]
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Author:	Hearthly [ Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:57 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Hearthly wrote: Your graphic proves nothing. It's probably all coincidence. The entirity of his defence when campaigning for reelection appears to be "elect me because I had no idea about the incredibly widespread corruption throughout my organisation." Even at purely face value, that makes him incompetent. Sorry Doc should have put a smiley on my post, I was agreeing with your point in a deadpan manner Looks like Blatter won't escape by resigning anyway - http://www.theguardian.com/football/201 ... es-reports

Author:	Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Jun 03, 2015 8:48 ]
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Hearthly wrote: Sorry Doc should have put a smiley on my post, I was agreeing with your point in a deadpan manner Oh, yes, I know. Nothing goes over my head. My reflexes are too fast. I would catch it.

Author:	MaliA [ Wed Jun 03, 2015 8:49 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Hearthly wrote: Sorry Doc should have put a smiley on my post, I was agreeing with your point in a deadpan manner Oh, yes, I know. Nothing goes over my head. My reflexes are too fast. I would catch it. He's like the old dude in the line with the thrown ball in The Awakenings.

Author:	Grim... [ Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:19 ]
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Nah, he's like this guy:

Author:	asfish [ Wed Jun 03, 2015 13:12 ]
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Quote: Looks like Blatter won't escape by resigning anyway It wouldn't surprise me if he planed to resign all along, but got some extra pay off or benefits by doing so as a voted in president.