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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 10:42 
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I really hope future historians don't study Beex.


I hope they do. In 100 years' time researchers will cite us as a representative sample of what real people in the old UK did and thought about their lives, giving us an immortality of sorts.

Otherwise, all we are is dust in the wind.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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And it turns out that they could have been red, blue, or purple with holographic unicorns all along.

To be honest, I've very much lost track of when I am being sarcastic and trolling in this thread and when I'm being genuine. Future historians will look back on this period of our history with amazement.

More likely just utter contempt.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I fear that future folk will all be too busy trying to survive and then pick up the pieces to wonder or care about the generation of utter fuckwits who had it all and chose to throw it all away by just staring at their fucking phones.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I fear that future folk will all be too busy trying to survive and then pick up the pieces to wonder or care about the generation of utter fuckwits who had it all and chose to throw it all away by just staring at their fucking phones.


Is this an attempt at some weird anti-millenial crack?


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Not anti-millenial in the slightest, I'm talking about my own generation as much as any other. I just have an increasingly unshakable feeling that we're sleepwalking into a fucking disaster.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Not anti-millenial in the slightest, I'm talking about my own generation as much as any other. I just have an increasingly unshakable feeling that we're sleepwalking into a fucking disaster.


Fair enough, I just thought because the 'staring at phones' thing is the usual jibe at millenials. That said I don't think we're distractedly sleepwalking into anything; once the referendum was decided I don't feel anyone has any real power to change how this plays out. People are plenty engaged and outraged, it just doesn't have any impact. :(


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Not anti-millenial in the slightest, I'm talking about my own generation as much as any other. I just have an increasingly unshakable feeling that we're sleepwalking into a fucking disaster.


Fair enough, I just thought because the 'staring at phones' thing is the usual jibe at millenials. That said I don't think we're distractedly sleepwalking into anything; once the referendum was decided I don't feel anyone has any real power to change how this plays out. People are plenty engaged and outraged, it just doesn't have any impact. :(


We have power to influence how it plays out . We, by far, have not done our bit.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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When is millenials?


Anyone younger than you who does something you disapprove of even though it doesn't affect you in any way.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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It’s not firm defined, but 1980-1999 is what I usually see written.

So, that’s Russell. Us 70s baby’s are Generation X.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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We, by far, have not done our bit.


Hey, I 'liked' a funny cartoon video of Nigel Farage and a bear.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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It's always Russel's fault.

Thank goodness you agree. I keep telling him that and I don’t think he believes me.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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It's always Russel's fault.

Thank goodness you agree. I keep telling him that and I don’t think he believes me.

I'm coming round to the idea.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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The way I've heard it explained is "people who reached voting age in 2000 or later", so pretty much what Mimi said.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I'm not a filthy millennial. I'm not a crusty gen-x'er either. I'll sit with Myp in his tiny made up generation.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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He needs to come up with a better name though.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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He needs to come up with a better name though.

I didn't come up with it. :shrug:

MilleX is kind of cool. Like Skrillex (sub please check)

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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If you '77 to '92, then you rollin' in MaliA's crew.

Do I have to? :(

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I was wondering if there was a label worse than 'Thatcher's Children' and, well, there's my answer.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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MaliA's crew.


It's a shame there isn't a way to vote for leaving this group.


Maliexit

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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MaliA's crew.


It's a shame there isn't a way to vote for leaving this group.


Maliexit


He sends 350 million pictures of Julia Bradbury a week. Let's send them to the NHS instead.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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It's a shame there isn't a way to vote for leaving this group.


Maliexit


He sends 350 million pictures of Julia Bradbury a week. Let's send them to the NHS instead.

Who’s Julia Bradbury?

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Only Mali knows. Some kind of Bradford celeb, I'm guessing.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Mr Corbyn is accepting a customs union. No doubt this was sold to him as a chance to cause chaos for the Tories rather than acting on the country's best interests, but is a welcome step in the right direction.

Meanwhile, David Davis needs to read up on projection:

BBC wrote:
Meanwhile, Brexit Secretary David Davis has accused Mr Corbyn of selling "snake oil".


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Barry Gardiner was, once again, useless on R4 talking about this . Wholly unconvincing.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Barry Gardiner was, once again, useless on R4 talking about this . Wholly unconvincing.


I'm actually not feeling like I'm missing out on much now I don't listen to 'Today' as much as in the past.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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As for politicians, I would actually be happier if my MP had been a lifelong Eurosceptic, rather than a Tory who just switched sides for the sake of her political career. At least in the former case, they actually believe in what they are doing and I could have a clear basis for an argument rather than vacuous statements from the party PR office.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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The SNP led a pretty daming debate on DExEU's affairs yesterday. The Tories didn't really bother to reply.

Tommy Shepperd gave a riveting speech. I wonder if this part is accurate:

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This must be the only Department in history that underspends its budget not by a couple of percentage points, but by 50% in its first year, and it has had to go to the Treasury to scale down its estimates of spending in the next financial year.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Guardian (and everyone else):
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Foreign secretary compares crossing Irish border to travelling from Westminster to Camden


Did he just watch 'Passport to Pimlico'? It's been on my list for ages, but then 'the Napoleon of Notting Hill' is as close to a personal political manifesto that I've come.

If we ignore Mr Johnson, will he go away?


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Jesus shitting Christ

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnso ... t-11270041

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Boris Johnson appears to have told the Prime Minister "it is wrong to see the task as maintaining 'no border'" on the island of Ireland after Brexit - and that the Government's task will be to "stop this border becoming significantly harder".

The major leak from the Cabinet's Brexit deliberations on the highly contentious Irish border is included in a letter passed to Sky News.

Its revelation has prompted calls for Theresa May to consider the position of her Foreign Secretary.

Writing to the Prime Minister, Mr Johnson also seeks to play down the "exaggerated impression" of "how important checks are" at EU external borders.

He also goes as far as contemplating a hard border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, writing: "Even if a hard border is reintroduced, we would expect to see 95% + of goods pass the border [without] checks."


It suggests a significant downgrading of expectations about the change to the Irish border as a result of the Government's Brexit strategy and Mrs May's plan to leave the EU's single market and customs union.

As recently as November last year, the Foreign Secretary told the House of Commons: "There can be no return to a hard border. There can be no hard border.

"That would be unthinkable, and it would be economic and political madness".

In February 2016, ahead of the EU referendum, Mr Johnson promised the Irish border would be "absolutely unchanged".


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Boris Johnson is like a shady used car dealer who has somehow managed to ascend to a position of actual power and influence.

It's shocking that May is so weak she can't sack him.


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He's always putting these things out just before a major announcement, presumably to show to the true hardcore believers that he's still on their side, isn't selling out, and waiting to become PM. I think he's started to privately panic that not only is he being found out but becoming more unpopular to non-Brexity types every day. Like Mr Trump, not being liked is even worse than not being talked about.


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In other Brexit news, their Lordships debated the Haulage Permits and Trailer Registration Bill , essentially an emergency piece of legislation to ensure that trucks can still enter and leave the UK after the Glorious Day*. Or, in other words, yet another piece of complex stuff nobody thought would be an issue until we started trying to untangle ourselves. Happily, or as happily as is possible under the circumstances, British and Irish trucks moving between the two countries will be exempt to avoid a border. It can be real pain otherwise, as the people of Camden know.


*Gloriousness subject to change.


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It can be real pain otherwise, as the people of Camden know.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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It can be real pain otherwise, as the people of Camden know.

Hello! Wotcha, me old china!


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I'm now picturing Boris Johnson and Liam Fox demonstrating their vision for Ireland's future by dressing as leprechauns and hopping backwards and forwards across the border.


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