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| Author: | Cras [ Tue Nov 28, 2017 14:10 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Urgent parliamentary question today basically to ask "what is this horseshit?". Davis bottles it and sends a junior minister in his place. This is embarrassing. |
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| Author: | Kern [ Tue Nov 28, 2017 14:13 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
It's sad to think that 10 years ago it would have been him leading the charge against the government in a case like this. |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Tue Nov 28, 2017 14:55 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
The Speaker hinted that he would allow them to debate if Davis was in contempt of Parliament. FFS. Also, the junior minister they sent to answer because Davis was scared stated that the sectoral analysis does not exist in the form that Parliament wants. The problem is that they have, legally, on the record, previously stated that it does indeed exist and they just don’t want to show it to anyone. So either way they have lied to Parliament and/or broken FOI laws. Great job, A+, would trust these clowns with our future again. |
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| Author: | Kern [ Tue Nov 28, 2017 15:28 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
 Oh dear. Will any minister start to feel any shame or embarrassment over any of this? It's only the biggest constitutional, social, and economic change in about forty years, after all. This is an abysmal piece of maladministration. That said, Mr Johnson ought to have gone over the Iranian prisoner affair, and Mrs May is far too weak to exercise any control. How long ago that exit poll in 2015 feels now. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Tue Nov 28, 2017 15:29 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Priti Patel has been shouting about hoe May has been Doing It Wrong and how she should have told the EU to "sod off" over paying cash monies. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Nov 28, 2017 15:30 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Is anyone else just feeling super Strong And Stable right now? Personally, I've never felt so Strong, and my Stability is off the charts. |
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| Author: | Kern [ Tue Nov 28, 2017 15:32 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
I wish I hadn't thrown out the single Tory leaflet I got back in May. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Nov 28, 2017 15:34 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Well, you do have a low centre of gravity. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Tue Nov 28, 2017 15:34 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
KERN YOU RUINED IT |
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| Author: | Kern [ Tue Nov 28, 2017 15:35 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Oh, and it's probably nothing, but according to the Guardian someone in Sinn Fein has being talking about 'civil disobedience' if the border comes back. |
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| Author: | Kern [ Tue Nov 28, 2017 15:36 ] |
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Grim... wrote: KERN YOU RUINED IT Title. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Nov 28, 2017 15:41 ] |
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Davis: We can't show you the impact assessments because it would weaken our negotiating position World: So, they're bad, then? Davis: I can't answer that because it would weaken our negotiating position World: But if the papers were good you could release them without weakening out negotiating position. So they must be bad. And the EU know this. In fact, the assessments must be so bad, we're better off letting the EU imagine how bad they are rather than knowing, and so they must in fact be unimaginably bad. |
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| Author: | markg [ Tue Nov 28, 2017 15:45 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Maybe they're so good that if he shows them now then they'll all want to leave too and so then they'll win or something. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Tue Nov 28, 2017 15:48 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Davis: We can't show you the impact assessments because it would weaken our negotiating position World: So, they're bad, then? Davis: I can't answer that because it would weaken our negotiating position World: But if the papers were good you could release them without weakening out negotiating position. So they must be bad. And the EU know this. In fact, the assessments must be so bad, we're better off letting the EU imagine how bad they are rather than knowing, and so they must in fact be unimaginably bad. This is painfully true |
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| Author: | DBSnappa [ Tue Nov 28, 2017 16:04 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
With each passing day, a military coup is looking more attractive. If only so we can bring back the stocks to parliament square. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Tue Nov 28, 2017 16:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Davis: We can't show you the impact assessments because it would weaken our negotiating position World: So, they're bad, then? Davis: I can't answer that because it would weaken our negotiating position World: But if the papers were good you could release them without weakening out negotiating position. So they must be bad. And the EU know this. In fact, the assessments must be so bad, we're better off letting the EU imagine how bad they are rather than knowing, and so they must in fact be unimaginably bad. Technically "DExEU is incapable of carrying out impact assessments" probably would actually weaken our negotiation position, so that could well be a truthful response. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Tue Nov 28, 2017 16:27 ] |
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I think we're closer to this position than is comfortable |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Nov 28, 2017 19:22 ] |
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Times: "Theresa May is set to approve a politically explosive Brexit bill of up to £50bn after the Conservative Party conference in October in an effort to kickstart trade talks with the European Union. Under plans being drawn up in Whitehall, Britain would pay between £7bn and £17bn a year to Brussels for three years after Brexit before ending sizeable direct payments into EU coffers in time for the 2022 general election." https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ther ... -7ttbnc239 That'll go down well, I'm sure. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Tue Nov 28, 2017 20:11 ] |
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Bad times for the Tories when even the Telegraph put the boot in. |
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| Author: | myp [ Tue Nov 28, 2017 21:20 ] |
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Cavey has been quiet lately. Must be a coincidence. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Nov 28, 2017 21:52 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Wowowow that Telegraph piece isn't messing around. |
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| Author: | Hearthly [ Tue Nov 28, 2017 22:00 ] |
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Lonewolves wrote: Cavey has been quiet lately. Must be a coincidence. I'm no fan of Cavey's stance on many political issues but goading folks when they're not around is just plain bad form IMO. Maybe he's been quiet lately because he's mad busy at work, or maybe he's got stuff going on with his family, or any other entirely valid reason that means he's got more important things to do than argue on BEEX about Brexit or anything else. Or maybe he just can't be arsed at the moment, and that's fine too. I feel that way sometimes as well. Prodding people with a stick isn't exactly a great debating tactic, especially when you have no idea why they're not sat at the table at any particular moment in time. |
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| Author: | myp [ Tue Nov 28, 2017 22:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Oh I'm sure he's very busy, like we all are. It was just a gentle ribbing, nothing more. |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Tue Nov 28, 2017 23:40 ] |
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Wowowow that Telegraph piece isn't messing around. To be fair, that’s Michael Deacon isn’t it? So he’s paid to take the piss. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Nov 28, 2017 23:42 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Is it? That makes sense, but I thought his piece today was the 50 Shades one. But maybe he wrote two things! |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:26 ] |
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Is it? That makes sense, but I thought his piece today was the 50 Shades one. But maybe he wrote two things! Yeah, it is him. A busy day! |
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| Author: | Kern [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:22 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
The whole 50 billion euros thing wouldn't have been an issue had the government been open and honest about likely costs sooner. Instead we had Mr Johnson talking about whistling. I also don't care much for talk of 'the other side'. Surely we'd be better off seeing it as a collaborative project and admitting that both sides have interests and possibilities where we might both benefit, rather than a them v us zero-sum game? |
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| Author: | markg [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:29 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
That would be nice but it can't happen. The animosity is only going to increase. |
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| Author: | Kern [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:43 ] |
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markg wrote: That would be nice but it can't happen. I know. Sometimes my idealism gets the better of me. But lying in the gutter you're looking at stars at all that. Quote: The animosity is only going to increase. Are we doing Boudicca, Elizabeth the 1st, or Churchill this week? |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:59 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
https://www.ft.com/content/cabf22e2-d46 ... c0a5c8d5c9 Quote: Both sides say no final figure will be agreed on Britain’s exit settlement next week. Significantly the UK plans to avoid a lump-sum settlement and instead will develop a system for regularly calculating payments in years to come, when specific liabilities come due. Well, that's one way to attempt to dodge screaming headlines from the Mail: make it too complicated for Mail hacks to add up. Can't see it working, though, but what else can May do?Under this model, pensions of EU officials, for instance, could be paid on the basis of annual costs, meaning there will be no final figure for the so-called “Brexit bill” until the final eligible EU pensioner is dead, many decades from today. Quote: The mechanism for determining payments, once applied in future years, may take account of the fall in sterling and decline in the relative size of Britain’s economy, thereby reducing the UK’s share from 13 per cent. "Good news! We've reduced the Brexit bill, and all we had to do was fuck our currency and economy into a cocked hat!"
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:59 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Amazing that the pound has a strong showing this morning after Talk was of actually paying £50bn. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:07 ] |
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Curiosity wrote: Amazing that the pound has a strong showing this morning after Talk was of actually paying £50bn. Presumably because the markets fear a cliff edge, so every bit of news that nudges us closer to a deal is good news. |
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:49 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Curiosity wrote: Amazing that the pound has a strong showing this morning after Talk was of actually paying £50bn. Presumably because the markets fear a cliff edge, so every bit of news that nudges us closer to a deal is good news. Absolutely this, it’s just funny how it works. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:52 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... r-a-barrel Well, this neatly sums up the shit we're in. |
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| Author: | myp [ Wed Nov 29, 2017 13:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:57 ] |
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omg https://advisa.se/en/research/brexit-bus/ |
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| Author: | myp [ Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:09 ] |
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote: Next challenge |
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| Author: | DavPaz [ Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:12 ] |
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God save us all. |
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| Author: | devilman [ Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:15 ] |
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Attachment: bus.PNG I was disappointed that there wasn't a cliff at the end. |
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| Author: | krazywookie [ Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:20 ] |
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Mine crashed in may '17 If only. |
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| Author: | Satsuma [ Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:41 ] |
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66 seconds. |
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| Author: | Satsuma [ Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:43 ] |
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Nah, 53 seconds. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Nov 30, 2017 13:01 ] |
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It took me multiple attempts just to get past May's election... ...AND IN THE GAME TOO |
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| Author: | devilman [ Thu Nov 30, 2017 13:20 ] |
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Attachment: bus2.PNG The bus ended up a little worse for wear. 
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| Author: | Grim... [ Thu Nov 30, 2017 15:13 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
53 seconds is my best. |
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| Author: | Jem [ Thu Nov 30, 2017 15:20 ] |
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I got to 79 
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| Author: | devilman [ Thu Nov 30, 2017 15:34 ] |
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Attachment: bus4.PNG Slight improvement. |
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| Author: | Satsuma [ Thu Nov 30, 2017 15:49 ] |
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devilman wrote: Attachment: bus2.PNG The bus ended up a little worse for wear. Eat my ... oh bollocks. |
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| Author: | Satsuma [ Thu Nov 30, 2017 16:39 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
38 seconds. No one else play this from hereon in. Thanks. |
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| Author: | myp [ Thu Nov 30, 2017 16:45 ] |
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Slow work day? |
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