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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 14:29 
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 14:44 
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Cras wrote:
James Dyson on Andrew Marr this morning:

Walk away from negotiations
Don't pay anything towards outstanding obligations
Scrap corporation tax
Make it easier to fire people

What a cunt.


I've just been told my corporation tax bill is £100,000 in April. Mr Suction might be onto something ;)
Still, I'm sure this six figure sum will be magnificently efficiently managed and well spent.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 14:52 
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On this, I felt a twinge of sympathy for Brown this morning as he was being interviewed and had malicious quotes read to him from books by Blair and Lord Mandelson. Turns out (at risk of poking the bear through the bars <wink>), he wanted tighter regulation of the city, but was shouted down.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 14:53 
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Cavey wrote:
Cras wrote:
James Dyson on Andrew Marr this morning:

Walk away from negotiations
Don't pay anything towards outstanding obligations
Scrap corporation tax
Make it easier to fire people

What a cunt.


I've just been told my corporation tax bill is £100,000 in April. Mr Suction might be onto something ;)
Still, I'm sure this six figure sum will be magnificently efficiently managed and well spent.

They'll have a good Lord Mayor's Banquet this year.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 14:56 
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I find it entertaining that Dyson was one of the loudest business voices calling for the UK to join the euro when it was launched. I look forward to him pleading for us to rejoin Europe in 15 years time.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 14:57 
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:D

Yeah because hey, Brown really wanted to put the City back on a short leash in all those Mansion House speeches that he made in 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006 and 2007. Oh no.

I mean seriously, who exactly is the deluded old idiot thinking he's trying to kid? Does he think we none of us can remember as far back as 10 years, nor that his (lamentably, interminably boring, as well as laughably ill-informed and ultimately catastrophic) speeches have not beEN transcribed, so we can, even now, revisit them and inverse-marvel at all their misinformed 'glory'?

The unbelievable brass neck.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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They'll have a good Lord Mayor's Banquet this year.

I reckon we should gate crash it Myp :D

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Cras wrote:
James Dyson on Andrew Marr this morning:

Walk away from negotiations
Don't pay anything towards outstanding obligations
Scrap corporation tax
Make it easier to fire people

What a cunt.

I couldn’t possibly comment.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I find it entertaining that Dyson was one of the loudest business voices calling for the UK to join the euro when it was launched. I look forward to him pleading for us to rejoin Europe in 15 years time.

I didn't know this.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theg ... rbusiness4

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Vacuum cleaner king James Dyson, the high-profile inventor and businessman, is set to reignite the debate surrounding the euro after threatening to expand his operations in Malaysia, rather than at his British factory, if the UK does not join the single currency.

Dyson, who devised the bagless vacuum cleaner, sparked a national debate earlier this year after complaining that the strong pound could force his company to move overseas. This time, however, his comments carry extra weight. Since he made his now famous remarks, Dyson has opened a small factory in Malaysia in a bid to offset both the impact of the pound and planning problems over enlarging his UK factory in Wiltshire.

The Malaysian plant is now used to make products for the Far Eastern markets, chiefly Japan. But Dyson is considering increasing its capacity in the longer term if the UK government's attitude to the single currency doesn't change.

'It's suicidal for the UK not to join the euro. Why should we go on exporting at a loss? We're facing unfair competition,' he said.


What a dick.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 22:03 
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Did he follow through with his threat?


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Actually, not sure I can say that.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Yes, 800 jobs were lost: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/2752 ... -East.html


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 22:12 
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Heh. Thanks for reminding me of the ONE thing we can thank Gordon Brown for: keeping us out of the catastrophic Euro, as against the “better judgement” of his knife-wielding “colleagues” in that back-biting pit of vipers that was the New Labour ‘sofa government’ of the late 90s and early 2000s.

I suppose a busted clock reads the right time fleetingly and eventually.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Sun Nov 12, 2017 22:17 
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As for James Dyson, I don’t know much about him but IIRC he pays a lot more UK tax than a google, he’s set up UK Engineering training facilities and academies, he’s created a lot of wealth for U.K. plc even if I don’t agree with his Brexit views. So let’s just say he’s likely rather more useful than bankers or tax avoiding vampires?

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 14:27 
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Yeah, for all that Dyson still does employ 3000+ people in the UK, as far as I can tell, and does invest a lot in the training and education of engineers. And while I don't agree with his politics in many situations, it's not like he's bribing Saudi princes or anything.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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He did offshore company ownership to Malta for a number of years to avoid paying UK tax. 2009-2013 IIRC.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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And he wants to eliminate corporation tax. He doesn't think companies should pay anything into the treasury.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Although, a scheme where corrupt Princes from wealthy petro-states were bribed using a complex series of slush funds, Swiss bank accounts and "consultancy payments" in order to persuade them to fit out their armed services with a certain brand of hand dryer in the toilets would make an splendidly ridiculous back story to a spy thriller.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 14:54 
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As for James Dyson, I don’t know much about him but IIRC he pays a lot more UK tax than a google, he’s set up UK Engineering training facilities and academies, he’s created a lot of wealth for U.K. plc even if I don’t agree with his Brexit views. So let’s just say he’s likely rather more useful than bankers or tax avoiding vampires?


Wait... vampires are real?

And they don’t even pay tax!

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Curiosity wrote:
Cavey wrote:
As for James Dyson, I don’t know much about him but IIRC he pays a lot more UK tax than a google, he’s set up UK Engineering training facilities and academies, he’s created a lot of wealth for U.K. plc even if I don’t agree with his Brexit views. So let’s just say he’s likely rather more useful than bankers or tax avoiding vampires?


Wait... vampires are real?

And they don’t even pay tax!


They should take a long hard look at themselves in the mirr.. oh wait.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Curiosity wrote:
Cavey wrote:
As for James Dyson, I don’t know much about him but IIRC he pays a lot more UK tax than a google, he’s set up UK Engineering training facilities and academies, he’s created a lot of wealth for U.K. plc even if I don’t agree with his Brexit views. So let’s just say he’s likely rather more useful than bankers or tax avoiding vampires?


Wait... vampires are real?

And they don’t even pay tax!
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Don't be daft! Cavey clearly differentiates between tax-paying vampires, who are useful and valuable members of society, and tax-avoiding vampires, who are not.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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devilman wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
Cavey wrote:
As for James Dyson, I don’t know much about him but IIRC he pays a lot more UK tax than a google, he’s set up UK Engineering training facilities and academies, he’s created a lot of wealth for U.K. plc even if I don’t agree with his Brexit views. So let’s just say he’s likely rather more useful than bankers or tax avoiding vampires?


Wait... vampires are real?

And they don’t even pay tax!


They should take a long hard look at themselves in the mirr.. oh wait.

Bravo!


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 16:02 
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... itain-down

An investment advisor has advised his clients to pull funds from the UK in favour of "looking further afield" because Britain's economy is weak. More talking Britain down nonsense from this remoaner banker who is called ::checks notes:: hardcore Bexiteer John Redwood MP.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
PostPosted: Mon Nov 13, 2017 16:21 
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Curiosity wrote:
Cavey wrote:
As for James Dyson, I don’t know much about him but IIRC he pays a lot more UK tax than a google, he’s set up UK Engineering training facilities and academies, he’s created a lot of wealth for U.K. plc even if I don’t agree with his Brexit views. So let’s just say he’s likely rather more useful than bankers or tax avoiding vampires?


Wait... vampires are real?

And they don’t even pay tax!
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Don't be daft! Cavey clearly differentiates between tax-paying vampires, who are useful and valuable members of society, and tax-avoiding vampires, who are not.


Vampires are okay; it’s only Bankers I can’t stand. ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I love how a guy who’s employed thousands of U.K. people in actual meaningful, useful, productive employment, and has set up first class engineering academies etc. is a Beex hate figure, because among other things he has the audacity to rail against paying punitive Corporation Tax where others get off Scot free by shaking hands with the Isle of Man government or whatever. I mean how very dare he etc., and yet you all moan about losing bloody *bankers* because of Brexit. Priceless, totally figures I guess. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Curiosity wrote:
Cavey wrote:
As for James Dyson, I don’t know much about him but IIRC he pays a lot more UK tax than a google, he’s set up UK Engineering training facilities and academies, he’s created a lot of wealth for U.K. plc even if I don’t agree with his Brexit views. So let’s just say he’s likely rather more useful than bankers or tax avoiding vampires?


Wait... vampires are real?

And they don’t even pay tax!


Yes, paying tax.... not expecting vast bailouts off the backs of working people, their children and their grandchildren.... such a quaint notion!

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I'm confused that in the same breath you appear to be lauding Dyson for railing against 'punitive' corporation tax rates but lambasting 'vampires' who aren't paying their fair share in tax.
UK corporation tax rates are below the global average.

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You seriously don’t get the fundamental disconnect between U.K. businesses being expected to pay millions and billions in Corporation Tax, in part to pay for the social and actual physical infrastructure enabling the likes of Amazon, Google, banks etc to print money off all our backs, and put next to nothing back in? Wow.

I imagine he’s asking himself the same question I am: why?

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Well as i mentioned before, he didn't use to. Everything was registered in Malta specifically to avoid tax. And he's said it should be abolished, so he doesn't want to put anything back in.

And the why is to pay for public services, the things that a nation needs in order to support a business like Dyson's and indeed yours, and indeed Google or Amazon. I have no sympathy for a profit making business in the UK, with its perfectly reasonable corporation tax rate, not wanting to pay their fair share.

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