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| Author: | Cavey [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:26 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
MaliA wrote: https://twitter.com/mattzarb/status/892427609711267840 Corbyn's ex spokesman, there. Heh. Classy! "Thick as pigshit" has a certain ring to it, huh.  His competence as a spokesman is entirely compatible and commensurate with his ex-employers' as a would be PM. Great recruiting skills, there. |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:36 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Cavey wrote: MaliA wrote: https://twitter.com/mattzarb/status/892427609711267840 Corbyn's ex spokesman, there. Heh. Classy! "Thick as pigshit" has a certain ring to it, huh. His competence as a spokesman is entirely compatible and commensurate with his ex-employers' as a would be PM. Great appointing skills, there. I commented on twitter that it is a bold statement by someone with a BA in Anthropology and Political science and received a rebuke via DM by someone with a BA in Anthropology and Political science |
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| Author: | Cavey [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:48 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Ooh, juicy. Do tell!
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| Author: | MaliA [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 7:54 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
That was pretty much it. Still, at least it wasn't psycology |
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| Author: | Kern [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:12 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
MaliA wrote: Still, at least it wasn't psycology Projection. |
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| Author: | Kern [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:16 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
MaliA wrote: https://twitter.com/mattzarb/status/892427609711267840 Corbyn's ex spokesman, there. Gah, that article annoyed me, especially given polling results suggesting it was a factor. Most people aren't single issue voters anyway. And this whole thing about "x% of remainers respect the outcome" is a sly trick that's starting to grate. I respect the outcome, just as I respect the outcome of the general election or when Parliament passes a crap bill. Doesn't mean I have to agree with it, cease trying to change people's minds, or overturn it. |
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| Author: | markg [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:31 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
The problem as far as I can see is that even if say 70% came round to the idea that Brexit is just a terrible idea and wanted the outcome of the referendum overturned the outcry from the other 30% would be more divisive than whatever expensive fudge they eventually do come up with. And it would never, ever go away. The UKIP types would become an even louder and uglier voice than they already are, believing themselves to have had their victory stolen. I just can't see any way back from it. |
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| Author: | Kern [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:32 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
I'm looking forward to being repeatedly told that the eventual deal is all the fault of Brussels and the EU, rather than, say poor planning on the part of the government. |
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| Author: | Kern [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:33 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
markg wrote: And it would never, ever go away. The UKIP types would become an even louder and uglier voice than they already are, believing themselves to have had heir victory stolen. I just can't see any way back from it. Mortality tables. |
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| Author: | markg [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 8:44 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
To some extent, but not entirely. There's still a sizeable number of leave voters who will still be alive even after we're in the ground. Also it would be difficult to predict how public opinion would go if a huge section of the population were more or less dedicating their lives to blaming every bad thing that happens on our continued membership of the EU. Put it this way, if we were leaving the EU as a result of a referendum do-over then I think I'd probably be even more fucking livid about it than I am now. So imagine every leave-voting tosser with that kind of fire in their belly. The only way we can ever get back to where we were is in twenty years or so. |
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| Author: | asfish [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:46 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
I'm in Copenhangan for a couple of days for work, last night in the taxi from the aiport the driver pointed out a new shiny tower block He then went to say the that Denamrk is trying to get "Drs" from the UK into the building and are offering 20 years free rent. I think he meant that its some sort of EU medical\pharma\research type organsation that we currenly have in the UK as being part of the EU. We are just going to loose some many of these sorts of things as we move forward with leaving  Not aware of one thing we get thats worth having from leaving so far |
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| Author: | Squirt [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 10:50 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
European Medicines Agency? In Canary Wharf at the moment, and apparently employs 900 people there. |
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| Author: | Mr Dave [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:02 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
asfish wrote: I'm in Copenhangan for a couple of days for work, last night in the taxi from the aiport the driver pointed out a new shiny tower block
He then went to say the that Denamrk is trying to get "Drs" from the UK into the building and are offering 20 years free rent. I think he meant that its some sort of EU medical\pharma\research type organsation that we currenly have in the UK as being part of the EU. We are just going to loose some many of these sorts of things as we move forward with leaving Not aware of one thing we get thats worth having from leaving so far |
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| Author: | TheVision [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:22 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
A blue passport! Imagine the look on your kids faces when they see how blue they will be? Can't wait. |
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| Author: | Kern [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:28 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Squirt wrote: European Medicines Agency? In Canary Wharf at the moment, and apparently employs 900 people there. I can't see how a British Medicines Agency would have much scope to deviate from the positions of the European one, given that Big Pharma would no doubt want to sell the same products in as many markets as possible. The same applies to other regulatory agencies. But hey, loss of influence and knock-on jobs in the sector, but we've taken back control. And the NHS will get all that money. Yay. |
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| Author: | devilman [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 11:32 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
TheVision wrote: Imagine the look on your kids faces when they see how blue they will be? Brexit means Smurfs |
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| Author: | ApplePieOfDestiny [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:00 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Squirt wrote: European Medicines Agency? In Canary Wharf at the moment, and apparently employs 900 people there. In theory EMA move out just at the same time as our lease is up for renewal and their office is nicer and cheaper and better located for me than our current one. In time I may have discovered one personal benefit from Brexit. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:06 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
But then you'd be nearer me, so swings and roundabouts |
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| Author: | ApplePieOfDestiny [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 12:55 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Cras wrote: But then you'd be nearer me, so swings and roundabouts I won't be anywhere near Dublin |
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| Author: | Cavey [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 13:02 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
TheVision wrote: A blue passport! Imagine the look on your kids faces when they see how blue they will be? Can't wait. We need to Take Control of the hue of our passport covers. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 13:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
I like my red passport
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| Author: | Zardoz [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 13:11 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
 It matches my beautiful Mk1 Seat Leon. |
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| Author: | TheVision [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 13:18 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
I can honestly say that I've even thought about the colour of my passport until Brexit made it a thing. Then I thought about it for a couple of seconds and went back to not caring. |
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| Author: | Cavey [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 13:21 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
I think anyone who actually seriously does give a shite should refer to the recently discussed Matt Zarb-Cousin comment.
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| Author: | Cras [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 13:29 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
ApplePieOfDestiny wrote: Cras wrote: But then you'd be nearer me, so swings and roundabouts I won't be anywhere near Dublin Heh. They can pry my London office out of my cold, dead hands. |
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| Author: | Bamba [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 14:52 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Cras wrote: ApplePieOfDestiny wrote: Cras wrote: But then you'd be nearer me, so swings and roundabouts I won't be anywhere near Dublin Heh. They can pry my London office out of my cold, dead hands. That would certainly save them in relocation costs or redundancy payments. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 15:00 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Death in service benefit kicks the shit out of either of those. |
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| Author: | Grim... [ Wed Aug 02, 2017 16:42 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Will you marry me? And die? |
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| Author: | Sir Taxalot [ Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
markg wrote: The only way we can ever get back to where we were is in twenty years or so. prepare for re-Brentry |
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| Author: | Warhead [ Thu Aug 03, 2017 13:44 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Sir Taxalot wrote: markg wrote: The only way we can ever get back to where we were is in twenty years or so. prepare for re-Brentry Re-Brentry.  You need to register your copyright to that, NOW!
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| Author: | Curiosity [ Thu Aug 03, 2017 13:52 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Or just Bre-entry. Anyway, Carney and the BoE seem to be fairly concerned about Brexit. Estimates now investment in 2020 are 20% lower than pre-Brexit forecasts. |
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| Author: | Kern [ Thu Aug 03, 2017 13:52 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Great Breturn |
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| Author: | Trousers [ Thu Aug 03, 2017 13:57 ] |
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Supported by UKIN |
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| Author: | devilman [ Thu Aug 03, 2017 14:56 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
I see that Princess Diana is in favour of Brexit. |
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| Author: | markg [ Thu Aug 03, 2017 15:12 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Of course! The Queen Of Our Hearts was no negative nellie. Not like you lot. |
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| Author: | Squirt [ Thu Aug 03, 2017 15:13 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
*She* respected the will of the people. |
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| Author: | Kern [ Thu Aug 03, 2017 15:14 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
I disagree. I think she would have warned David Cameron of the risks involved in rushing ahead with something just to get your most febrile critics off your back. |
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| Author: | TheVision [ Thu Aug 03, 2017 15:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Kern wrote: I disagree. I think she would have warned David Cameron of the risks involved in rushing ahead with something just to get your most febrile critics off your back. Too soon. |
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| Author: | Cras [ Thu Aug 03, 2017 16:51 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Kern wrote: I disagree. I think she would have warned David Cameron of the risks involved in rushing ahead with something just to get your most febrile critics off your back. Magnificent |
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| Author: | Hearthly [ Sat Aug 05, 2017 8:55 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Today's Brexit cheer: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... eg-pickers There are several factors in the Brexit fiasco that point to food insecurity and/or far more expense food. This covers the prospect of crops rotting in the fields (likely to happen this year, and certainly going to happen next year on current trends). |
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| Author: | myp [ Sat Aug 05, 2017 13:57 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Yikes |
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| Author: | Kern [ Wed Aug 09, 2017 20:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Just finished 'How to lose a referendum' by Jason Farrell and Paul Goldsmith. I've read Craig Oliver's 'Unleashing Demons' and Tim Shipman's page-turner, 'All out war', both of which centre on the campaign and the immediate past. This book is the first one I've read that attempts to analyse how we got to where we are. It starts all the way back in 1945 and progresses through missed opportunities, poor leadership, and not really selling the idea of Europe to Britain for 70 years to imply an inevitability about the outcome. Much to think and argue about, and recommended once you've read Tim Shipman's book. |
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| Author: | GazChap [ Thu Aug 10, 2017 9:01 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Kern wrote: I disagree. I think she would have warned David Cameron of the risks involved in rushing ahead with something just to get your most cibrushsille critics off your back. BeExFeex. |
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| Author: | asfish [ Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:14 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
TheVision wrote: A blue passport! Imagine the look on your kids faces when they see how blue they will be? Can't wait. Just renewed mine and have a 10 year EU one back, I wonder if I will have to send it in when we leave for a replacement ? |
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| Author: | MaliA [ Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:25 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
I would have been more convinced of tje planning ahead of tje government, this morning, if, when questioned on details of how the the Eire/NI border would work, James Brokenshire had just replied "Wizards. We will do it with wizards". |
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| Author: | Kern [ Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:31 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
I cringed watching the news last night when I heard the dreaded term, 'technological solutions'. Was the R4 interview as bad? As far as I can tell, the current plan is to have our own customs system that's 100% devised for British needs but, by an amazing coincidence, is just the same as what we've got now, apart from being able to make the rules. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:33 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Kern wrote: As far as I can tell, the current plan is to have our own customs system that's 100% devised for British needs but, by an amazing coincidence, is just the same as what we've got now, apart from being able to make the rules. And the EU will sign up to this because reasons / stop talking Britain down / BMW is the tail that will wag the entire EU's dog because they have to sell us cars. Depressing summary -> http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2017/08 ... -dog-s-bre |
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| Author: | Kern [ Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:37 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Ah, Ian Dunt. I enjoyed his book on it. Well, the same way I enjoyed Stephen King's 'Pet Cemetery' when I was 14. |
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| Author: | Kern [ Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:38 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Doctor Glyndwr wrote: BMW is the tail that will wag the entire EU's dog because they have to sell us cars. Since 23 June 2016, I've not bought one BMW. |
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| Author: | Doctor Glyndwr [ Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:40 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Taking the Brexit |
Kern wrote: Since 23 June 2016, I've not bought one BMW. So how many did you buy? Two? Three? Brexit demands all patriotic Brits to buy BMWs so the EU won't fuck us over. |
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