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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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The impression we got so far is that the UK is not ready for these talks.”


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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'And then you go and spoil it all by saying something stupid like we'd still leave the single market'

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A Labour government would leave the single market because it is “dependent on membership of the EU” but seek a trade deal that mirrored the free trade benefits, Jeremy Corbyn has said.

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The best thing Labour can do right now is avoid the question, lay low, and let the Tories self-destruct on Brexit. Stuff like this really doesn't help build a coalition or provide adequate opposition to the government.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Well, here's some cheery reading:
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The UK does not have its own capacity to do things like certify maintenance facilities if it leaves the European Aviation Safety Agency. Yes, you heard that right. The UK won’t be able to certify the people that fix the planes. As with so many of these issues, the UK will either have to negotiate to remain in the Agency (which is within the dreaded European Court of Justice’s jurisdiction), or establish its own capacity to replace what it does from a standing start in only 20 months.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/bre ... 58586.html

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Christ, what a fucking farce.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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I see Liam Fox is saying that lowering our food standards to, for example, allow imports of American chlorine-rinsed chickens, is no big deal in the grand Brexit scheme of things.

Except, oops.

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The American farming industry insists any free trade deal must include agriculture – and Britain must allow in US chlorine-washed chicken, hormone-fed beef and genetically modified crops, all banned here and in the EU. The Telegraph reports Fox sources, backed by Boris Johnson, saying “the Americans have been eating it perfectly safely for years” and it’s 21% cheaper than our chicken. Trade is supposed to mean cheaper imports. But, with echoes of the old Corn Law wars, Gove and Leadsom jump to defend British farmers, expressing “serious concerns”. Not only will UK farmers lose market share, but lowering standards bars us from exporting our food to the EU. Fox dismissed food obsession as media trivia. Maybe the food is safe – but his eagerness to lower standards shows how a supplicant UK will take whatever terms a super-power desires.

It’s infuriating to watch Brexiteers only now finding out basic truths that “experts” told them years ago. Trade with New Zealand? That will wipe out our sheep farming. Trade with India? The price will be a huge increase in visas for Indians, breaking Theresa May’s already impossible net immigration target of “tens of thousands”. What about that “frictionless trade” at the border? Michel Barnier has now absolutely ruled it out: “I have heard some people in the UK argue that one can leave the single market and the customs union to achieve ‘frictionless trade’ but that is not possible.”


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Post brexit, the national dish will be chlorination chicken

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Via Pliskken:

http://www.epc.eu/pub_details.php?cat_id=4&pub_id=7865

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If the UK realises that any deal would be far inferior to full membership and inflict significant political costs on the UK, there could even be a reconsideration of the UK’s decision to leave. But a re-remain decision would not necessarily be met with enthusiasm on the other side of the channel. The way the UK has conducted these negotiations has burned many bridges and there are precious few allies and friends left. And the longer this approach prevails, the harder will it be to turn the situation around.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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Post brexit, the national dish will be chlorination chicken


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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No, probably rare, as experts tell you to cook it.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... y-unlikely

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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In March 2019 David Davis is going to pull the mother of all-nighters.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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We're so fucked. And all for what?


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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We're so fucked. And all for what?


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We're so fucked. And all for what?


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We're so fucked. And all for what?


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We're so fucked. And all for what?

So we could ditch the Euro.

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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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We're so fucked. And all for what?


To unite the Conservative Party and end its half-century long civil war over Europe.


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Don't worry we've got the best people on the job.....

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We're so fucked. And all for what?


To unite the Conservative Party and end its half-century long civil war over Europe.

You mean the party who are all currently trying to oust their leader (again)?


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We're so fucked. And all for what?


To unite the Conservative Party and end its half-century long civil war over Europe.

You mean the party who are all currently trying to oust their leader (again)?


It's a good job PM Corbyn has a firm hand on tne tiller. Corbyn will save the UK.

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It's a good job PM Corbyn has a firm hand on tne tiller. Corbyn will save the UK.


Yeah, but his more vocal fans were deeply unhappy with him regenerating into a female PM.


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Two days, and three different ministers giving different views on our beloved Brexit. Now, either this means the government no longer cares about collective responsibility and are taking their disputes out into the open, or, of course, it could be a sinister plan to cover all bases by ensuring that every side hears what they want to hear. This one is left as an exercise for the reader.

Still, today Mr Hammond is reported as saying this:

BBC wrote:
Chancellor Philip Hammond has said any "transitional deal" in the immediate period after Brexit must end by the time of the next general election.
He said there must be "business as usual, life as normal" for Britons as the UK exits the EU.
"Many things would look similar" the day after Brexit - on 29 March 2019 - as the UK moved gradually towards a new relationship with the EU, he said.
But he added the transition must end by June 2022, before the next election.


Assuming the Parliament lasts a full term (and Northern Ireland gets showered in more gold than Donald Trump's party guests), my take on his position is that he knows that untangling Britain is far too complex, and the most desirable outcome is something like what we've got now, and by 2022 the public position may be very different to that on 23 June 2016 so the Tories will have to keep abreast of this to stay in power.

I'm expecting a new announcement from somebody calling for immediate Brexit around lunchtime.


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 Post subject: Re: Taking the Brexit
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MaliA wrote:
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We're so fucked. And all for what?


To unite the Conservative Party and end its half-century long civil war over Europe.

You mean the party who are all currently trying to oust their leader (again)?


It's a good job PM Corbyn has a firm hand on tne tiller. Corbyn will save the UK.


:D

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This word does not mean what you think it means

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Malicool is whatever you want it to be, surely? A universal wildcard in the sea of life. :D

Labour are akin to an rusting old shed of a Saab; a car that once, perhaps, in its long distant 70s heyday was well regarded, if not exactly cutting edge; a reassuringly durable, seemingly benign old thing that even now retains an air of Shoreditch shabby chic. It's thus potentially Malicool according to my understanding.

The harsh 'Cavey reality', if you like, is that it's a fucking deathtrap that'll likely kill you, borne of a (deservedly) defunct manufacturer, had its time decades ago and should be sent to the crusher forthwith before it can do anyone any harm. A gleaming blue Bentley with 5-year new warranty, on the other hand, well, that's Caveycool :D

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Saab were mad cutting edge in the 80s/90s. They once got rid of the steering wheel, for instance.

And weren't they the safest manufacturer after Volvo? Maybe. I seem to recall you could drop a car onto one and the doors would still open, because the safety cage was so stiff.

Maybe not, not sure. Either way, probably should have gone with Austin or Rover ;)

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Also SAAB make well reputed fighter jets, which isn't quite the comparable you're looking for.


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I've always hated Saabs (and Volvos, come to that). Big, 'orrible, ugly tanks IMO.

But then, safety gubbins hasn't always been top of my wishlist.

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Meanwhile our current car is actually in a crusher, on fire, while we all bemoan the alternatives.

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Meanwhile our current car is actually in a crusher, on fire, while we all bemoan the alternatives.


From inside the car.


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Oh, yeah, that's what I meant. Fuck. I should have said that, shouldn't I?

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Meanwhile our current car is actually in a crusher, on fire, while we all bemoan the alternatives.


From inside the car.


With some cheering that we now have control of our own car. Despite the lack of a steering wheel.

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Whilst the driver announces plans to investigate the exact affect that being on fire, in a crusher, will have on passenger safety.


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Also SAAB make well reputed fighter jets, which isn't quite the comparable you're looking for.


:D

This comes up every time. Every fucking time anyone points out how shit, in actual fact, Saabs are (basically tarted up Vauxhall Vectras, hardly themselves pinnacles of motoring excellence)

"b..bbbbut theymake [well known] fighter planes!"

... I even remember the "black out" instrumentation lights button (the ONE thing in common with fighter jets), dead useful if coming under fighter plane attack in your 900 Turbo. :D

No, I think this is very much the 'comparable' I'm looking for - defunct, bereft and bankrupted shite. If they were any cop they'd still be here - Capitalism, innit.

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