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Author:  zaphod79 [ Tue Apr 04, 2017 15:15 ]
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ber-brexit

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Up to 100,000 UK jobs at risk as Merkel and Juncker ally warns on euro clearing


http://news.sky.com/story/no-signed-fut ... y-10824347

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No signed 'future' Brexit deal within two years, says Theresa May

The UK will adopt 'third party status' in order to conduct trade negotiations after the two-year Article 50 process, says the PM.

Author:  Kern [ Tue Apr 04, 2017 15:42 ]
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Sometimes I kid myself into thinking that Mrs May is being ultra-manipulative and is working with the remain wing of her party and leaders of EU countries to make Brexit so difficult, so unachievable, and so much of a drawn-out clusterfuck that she can at last minute steer the ship away from the iceberg or pull the aeroplane safely out of its dive and go down in history as the person who saved Britain from itself.

Then I wake up and realise that that's far too clever a scheme even for Francis Urquhart.

Author:  Hearthly [ Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:32 ]
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Everything's going fine:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... own-jewels

I'm glad we have a set of sensible, intelligent, grown-up Tories and the impressive Theresa May to steer the good ship UK through all of this.

Britain set to lose EU ‘crown jewels’ of banking and medicine agencies

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The EU is set to inflict a double humiliation on Theresa May, stripping Britain of its European agencies within weeks, while formally rejecting the prime minister’s calls for early trade talks.

The Observer has learned that EU diplomats agreed their uncompromising position at a crunch meeting on Tuesday, held to set out the union’s strategy in the talks due to start next month.

A beauty contest between member states who want the European banking and medicine agencies, currently located in London, will begin within two weeks, with selection criteria to be unveiled by the president of the European council, Donald Tusk.

The European Banking Authority and the European Medicines Agency employ about 1,000 people, many of them British, and provide a hub for businesses in the UK. It is understood that the EU’s chief negotiator hopes the agencies will know their new locations by June, although the process may take longer. Cities such as Frankfurt, Milan, Amsterdam and Paris are competing to take the agencies, which are regarded as among the EU’s crown jewels.

Author:  DavPaz [ Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:52 ]
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It's really not surprising that those things are moving. Shame about the loss of British jobs, but not unexpected

Author:  Hearthly [ Sun Apr 16, 2017 11:34 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
It's really not surprising that those things are moving. Shame about the loss of British jobs, but not unexpected


It's the wanton economic vandalism Brexit represents that boils my piss, the brave and proper thing for the government to have done, after Cameron fucked off fucking humming jauntily to himself, would be to say 'Yeah, Brexit, worst idea ever, we're not doing it, here's why, and we're calling a general election on the platform of not wanting to fuck everyone in the ass.'


Author:  Kern [ Wed Apr 19, 2017 15:08 ]
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Meanwhile, in Brexit news, the EU Commission has again reminded people that agencies based in London (BBC) will move after we leave, despite protestations from the government. Barry Manilow was unavailable for comment.

Author:  Cras [ Wed Apr 19, 2017 15:38 ]
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I work three doors down from the EMA. That's a big-ass building that's going to sit empty for a good while.

Author:  Bamba [ Wed Apr 19, 2017 16:44 ]
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Cras wrote:
I work three doors down from the EMA. That's a big-ass building that's going to sit empty for a good while.


Get in there early, offer them a tenner for it.

Author:  Squirt [ Wed Apr 19, 2017 17:14 ]
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Register your speciality BBQ company "Excellent Meat Associates", get some business cards and headed letter paper made up, and then the day after they've relocated, just rock up and take over. Hope no one checks, and that the landlord keeps sending the bill to the EU.

Author:  devilman [ Wed Apr 19, 2017 17:29 ]
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Squirt wrote:
Register your speciality BBQ company "Excellent Meat Associates", get some business cards and headed letter paper made up, and then the day after they've relocated, just rock up and take over. Hope no one checks, and that the landlord keeps sending the bill to the EU.


I was thinking more along the lines of getting a new sign put up saying 'BEEX UK Headquarters'

Author:  Grim... [ Wed Apr 19, 2017 23:08 ]
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A flashing neon sign, no less.

Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:01 ]
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Grim... wrote:
A flashing neon sign, no less.


With a snow machine on the roof that people are too lazy to turn off

Author:  Kern [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 8:55 ]
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Continuing our on-going series of the benefits of Brexit, we turn to Westminster Hall where MPs were yesterday debating another vital gain of becoming a free and independent nation again: the choice of flag on a car's numberplate.

Author:  myp [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:12 ]
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Kern wrote:
Continuing our on-going series of the benefits of Brexit, we turn to Westminster Hall where MPs were yesterday debating another vital gain of becoming a free and independent nation again: the choice of flag on a car's numberplate.

Fucking hell. Who gives a shit

Author:  markg [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:14 ]
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I propose a bill where everyone who wants to have a flag on their number plate can do but only if they then take that number plate and SHOVE IT RIGHT UP THEIR STUPID FUCKING BREXITEERING ARSE.

Author:  Kern [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:18 ]
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Symbols matter. To some people, the EU flag on their car, the words 'European Union' on their passport, the use of the CE mark rather than the Crown on a pint glass and so on all suggest that the EU is usurping the UK as the sovereign state.

Admittedly, I've not been immune to this. I've always found some aspects of the EU's pretensions to statehood rather comical, but then I find most UK ceremonies wryly amusing too. And other than the 50 Euro note and the phallic imagery on the first issues of Euro coins, the EU tended to be bland and unoffensive - as appealing to loyalty as a local Tesco.

Author:  Kern [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:19 ]
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markg wrote:
I propose a bill where everyone who wants to have a flag on their number plate can do but only if they then take that number plate and SHOVE IT RIGHT UP THEIR STUPID FUCKING BREXITEERING ARSE.


I think we should complain that it's still 'GB', thus excluding our Northern Irish brethren.

Author:  devilman [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:30 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
Kern wrote:
Continuing our on-going series of the benefits of Brexit, we turn to Westminster Hall where MPs were yesterday debating another vital gain of becoming a free and independent nation again: the choice of flag on a car's numberplate.

Fucking hell. Who gives a shit


I had to stop reading part-way through when I realised how much discussion was being had over the issue. It's like they can't even think about all the big stuff that Brexit's going to change, so they're doing the easy stuff. It should just have gone -

- I beg to move, that this House has considered the use of regional flags on driving licences and number plates.
- Ok. We'll discuss that later according to its importance. I've allocated it to item number 329804732984729 on the Brexit agenda.

Author:  myp [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:32 ]
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Kern wrote:
Symbols matter. To some people, the EU flag on their car, the words 'European Union' on their passport, the use of the CE mark rather than the Crown on a pint glass and so on all suggest that the EU is usurping the UK as the sovereign state.

Those people are wrong though.

Author:  MrChris [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:38 ]
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Weeeeell, I can sort of see where they're coming from, a bit. I mean, the idea of sovereign nation states has been fairly embedded in European consciousness since the Treaty of Westphalia.

Author:  Kern [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:39 ]
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Whenever you're in difficulty around the world, just remind officials, immigration officers, nightclub bouncers, etc that Her Britannic Majesty's Secretary of State Requests and Requires in the Name of Her Majesty all those whom it may concern to allow the bearer to pass freely without let or hindrance. Works every time.

Author:  Kern [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:40 ]
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MrChris wrote:
Weeeeell, I can sort of see where they're coming from, a bit. I mean, the idea of sovereign nation states has been fairly embedded in European consciousness since the Treaty of Westphalia.


And the idea's kept the peace ever since.

Author:  myp [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:43 ]
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I have no interest in nationalism or 'patriotism'. A flag is just a piece of material. I don't see the point in being proud purely because I was born on one particular bit of rock over another. To me being a good patriot is putting the interest of the country's people first, and we don't appear to be doing that at all.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:55 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
I have no interest in nationalism or 'patriotism'. A flag is just a piece of material. I don't see the point in being proud purely because I was born on one particular bit of rock over another. To me being a good patriot is putting the interest of the country's people first, and we don't appear to be doing that at all.

:this:

Author:  MrChris [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 9:57 ]
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Kern wrote:
MrChris wrote:
Weeeeell, I can sort of see where they're coming from, a bit. I mean, the idea of sovereign nation states has been fairly embedded in European consciousness since the Treaty of Westphalia.


And the idea's kept the peace ever since.

Heh. To be fair, we didn't have another Hundred Years War.

Myp, true, but if one wants to be charitable perhaps it isn't nationalism per se, but more about a sense of belonging to something (and latching onto the visible markers of that), which is part of our evolutionary strategy as a species - the idea of society and behaviour that doesn't involve killing anyone and taking their stuff flows along from what was a pack or tribe, and it's just extended out. At some point hopefully we'll get to the "world is my society" stage, but I won't hold my breath. Particularly given that most people can't hold sustain more than a handful of relationships at any one time, so I'm not sure how scalable it is.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:04 ]
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Kern wrote:
Continuing our on-going series of the benefits of Brexit, we turn to Westminster Hall where MPs were yesterday debating another vital gain of becoming a free and independent nation again: the choice of flag on a car's numberplate.



Interesting side comment about the constitutional status of Kernow, there, too

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I propose that, should a motorist want to have a flag for their country or county—or, in Cornwall’s case, duchy—the flag could be accompanied by a Union Jack to make it clear that the vehicle was from the United Kingdom.

Author:  MrChris [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:05 ]
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It's never been a country, and never will be a country. Just like Wales.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:08 ]
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It's not a Union Jack!

Author:  Mr Russell [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:10 ]
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Grim... wrote:
It's not a Union Jack!

They said it could be now (if you're referring to the ship thing).

Author:  myp [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:11 ]
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Common usage, innit.

Author:  Mr Russell [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:11 ]
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https://www.flaginstitute.org/wp/britis ... nion-flag/
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It is often stated that the Union Flag should only be described as the Union Jack when flown in the bows of a warship, but this is a relatively recent idea. From early in its life the Admiralty itself frequently referred to the flag as the Union Jack, whatever its use, and in 1902 an Admiralty Circular announced that Their Lordships had decided that either name could be used officially. Such use was given Parliamentary approval in 1908 when it was stated that “the Union Jack should be regarded as the National flag”.

Author:  Kern [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:16 ]
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Just don't fly it upside down.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:17 ]
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MrChris wrote:
It's never been a country, and never will be a country. Just like Wales.


That's because of oppression, innit?

Author:  markg [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:18 ]
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If people didn't want their precious flag flying the wrong way up then they should have put a bit more fucking effort into making sure it looked a bit more different when it is.

Author:  myp [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:22 ]
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Union jack-off motion more like

Author:  Mr Russell [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 10:22 ]
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markg wrote:
If people didn't want their precious flag flying the wrong way up then they should have put a bit more fucking effort into making sure it looked a bit more different when it is.


Speaking of flags, when we went to IKEA last week, they had the Swedish flag flying at half mast to mark the tragedy in Stockholm.

I was sufficiently touched to put in a glowing review on their in-store computer.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 11:42 ]
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markg wrote:
If people didn't want their precious flag flying the wrong way up then they should have put a bit more fucking effort into making sure it looked a bit more different when it is.

Wasn't that the point, though? So baddies wouldn't notice when you were doing it?

Author:  Bobbyaro [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:51 ]
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MaliA wrote:
MrChris wrote:
It's never been a country, and never will be a country. Just like Wales.


That's because of oppression, innit?


No.

Author:  markg [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:53 ]
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Grim... wrote:
markg wrote:
If people didn't want their precious flag flying the wrong way up then they should have put a bit more fucking effort into making sure it looked a bit more different when it is.

Wasn't that the point, though? So baddies wouldn't notice when you were doing it?
Surely it would also be pretty hard for the goodies to tell as well if they weren't stood right next to it. In which case you could have just told them whatever it was you were trying to signal.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:55 ]
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Bobbyaro wrote:
MaliA wrote:
MrChris wrote:
It's never been a country, and never will be a country. Just like Wales.


That's because of oppression, innit?


No.


Yes

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03 ... g-britain/

Author:  Cras [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 13:09 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Bobbyaro wrote:
MaliA wrote:
MrChris wrote:
It's never been a country, and never will be a country. Just like Wales.


That's because of oppression, innit?


No.


Yes

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03 ... g-britain/


Cornwall voted to ignore the council of Europe.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 13:21 ]
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Cras wrote:
MaliA wrote:
Bobbyaro wrote:
MaliA wrote:
MrChris wrote:
It's never been a country, and never will be a country. Just like Wales.


That's because of oppression, innit?


No.


Yes

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03 ... g-britain/


Cornwall voted to ignore the council of Europe.


Fifth columnists

Author:  Cras [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 13:53 ]
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I don't think the voting majority can exactly be fifth columnists, that's not really how that works

Author:  Squirt [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 13:55 ]
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Saboteurs, Game Players, Spoilers and Counter-Revolutionaries!

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 17:29 ]
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Lonewolves wrote:
Kern wrote:
Continuing our on-going series of the benefits of Brexit, we turn to Westminster Hall where MPs were yesterday debating another vital gain of becoming a free and independent nation again: the choice of flag on a car's numberplate.

Fucking hell. Who gives a shit


I saw people genuinely putting forward "going back to a blue passport" as a real reason to vote for Brexit.

Author:  MrChris [ Thu Apr 20, 2017 18:22 ]
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There was a "why are you voting this way" field on the ballot paper??! I missed that.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Apr 27, 2017 11:05 ]
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... fits-of-eu

Going splendidly.

Control.

Author:  Kern [ Wed May 03, 2017 8:20 ]
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I just passed a number of people waving EU flags from the footbridge over Botley Road just now. Is there a national day of action going on, or just pre-election jitters?

In other news, I expect the bill to be reduced down to the original €60 billion (about £1 zillion at the current rate) plus ongoing subscriptions and to be hailed as a diplomatic triumph by the Tories.

Author:  Zardoz [ Wed May 03, 2017 9:19 ]
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Image

Author:  Kern [ Wed May 03, 2017 9:21 ]
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Ah, of course!

We're going to be even more unpopular on May 13th than normal, aren't we?

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