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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars Battlefront
PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 18:42 
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Yea. Much as they’re allowed to watch 18 films in the Home.

Personally I love the star wars shit show. Can’t control your kid and/or manage their expectations? Good. Can’t control your own spending and expectations? Good. Mass cancellations of buying decisions so that the price of the game plummets in the near future? Excellent, ta and yoink.


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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars Battlefront
PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 18:45 
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ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
Yea. Much as they’re allowed to watch 18 films in the Home.

Huh, I didn't think they were allowed to.

Fair enough.

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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars Battlefront
PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 18:58 
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“Big things coming in 2014 to single player”

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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars Battlefront
PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 18:58 
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Grim... wrote:
ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
Yea. Much as they’re allowed to watch 18 films in the Home.

Huh, I didn't think they were allowed to.

Fair enough.

Ha. I was watching 18s when I was 8! My parents were amazing/awful! (Delete as appropriate)


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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars Battlefront
PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 19:10 
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ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
“Big things coming in 2014 to single player”

http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/a ... ators-this

That's after it came out.

I guess that doesn't really matter, actually.

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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars Battlefront
PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 19:57 
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ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
Can’t control your own spending and expectations.


That's a bit harsh.

Let's try this again.

"Fruit machines? Can't control your own spending and expectations? Good."


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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars Battlefront
PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 20:03 
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So now we’re conflating an arguable gambling aspect where (because it only works with duplicates) there is a finite max spend of £100 (maybe less) with life destroying and potentially unlimited loss gambling addiction. Mmmmhkay.


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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars Battlefront
PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 20:45 
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Whales on mobile games spend tens of thousands, though, so the line isn't quite that clear cut.


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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars Battlefront
PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 20:49 
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Whales on mobile games spend tens of thousands, though, so the line isn't quite that clear cut.

Yes but spending lots of money does not equate to gambling. There is a finite max spend on BF which someone could reasonably calculate, not an open ended infinite possibility as a hero can’t “drop”. And also, if you’re spending to get all the heroes, you’re spending to get all the heroes. If there is a gamble, it’s the luck that you “win” at a lower price than the ceiling.


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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars Battlefront
PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 20:56 
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Not convinced. There's a finite payout on a fruit machine, too: the amount of cash in its cash box. Doesn't mean it's not gambling. And if my reading of BF2's economy is correct, you could keep buying loot boxes and receiving duplicates of things you don't want forever, so there's not a finite max spend.


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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars Battlefront
PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 20:58 
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Remember how there wasn't a massive backlash at the previous game giving you the option to buy more levels and guns and stuff.


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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars Battlefront
PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 21:05 
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Not convinced. There's a finite payout on a fruit machine, too: the amount of cash in its cash box. Doesn't mean it's not gambling. And if my reading of BF2's economy is correct, you could keep buying loot boxes and receiving duplicates of things you don't want forever, so there's not a finite max spend.

However in this case it’s the duplicates you want isn’t it, as it’s them you can exchange for credits and exchange for heroes. Unless you’re a completionist, which is where the gambling is potentially infinite. That’s how you can work out a finite max cost, being “winning” every possible item one by one, and having all your duplicates being the lowest credit exchange value possible.


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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars Battlefront
PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 21:15 
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ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
However in this case it’s the duplicates you want isn’t it, as it’s them you can exchange for credits and exchange for heroes. Unless you’re a completionist, which is where the gambling is potentially infinite. That’s how you can work out a finite max cost, being “winning” every possible item one by one, and having all your duplicates being the lowest credit exchange value possible.

From the Ars review, it's not just duplicates, you also want the best cards to give the best buffs to your favourite characters. And those really are specific buffs.


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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars Battlefront
PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 22:53 
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Defending this crap has to be one of the dumbest hills I have ever seen anyone choose to die on.


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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars Battlefront
PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 23:06 
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I’ve not seen anyone defending it, least of all me. However neither do I think it is as bad as a Kevin Spacey apology.


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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars Battlefront
PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2017 23:23 
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ApplePieOfDestiny wrote:
So now we’re conflating an arguable gambling aspect where (because it only works with duplicates) there is a finite max spend of £100 (maybe less) with life destroying and potentially unlimited loss gambling addiction. Mmmmhkay.


I’m struggling to find the link but someone worked this out. IIRC It would take about $2100 to get every item in the game or a mind boggling 4200 hours of play if you didn’t purchase any MTXs.


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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars Battlefront
PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 0:12 
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Defending this crap has to be one of the dumbest hills I have ever seen anyone choose to die on.

People in people are different shocker.

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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars Battlefront
PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:09 
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Comparing this situation to the annual moaning from iRacing members because the company are "only" offering a 25% discount on membership renewals for Black Friday when it used to be 50% a couple of years ago, I certainly know who sounds more entitled and which are valid concerns.


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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars Battlefront
PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 16:02 
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Okay, the single player in this is really fucking good.

Disclaimer: I don't really play AAA set-piece-athons so I'm always really impressed when I do. I also really liked that last Modern Warfare game with the robot man.

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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars Battlefront
PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 20:49 
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Wow. Arcade mode has a limit to how many credits you can earn a day. Play too much - you can’t earn credits for another 3 hours. WTF.

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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars Battlefront
PostPosted: Sat Nov 18, 2017 23:03 
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They don't want people* abusing it to get credits**.

*Who aren't paying them extra money above the retail price
**The only abuse of the system they're allowing is when you pay to do it. That's fine.


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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars Battlefront
PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:39 
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Looks like all that pissing and moaning sure did the trick! Hardly anyone bought Star Wars... That'll teach em!


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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars Battlefront
PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:45 
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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars Battlefront
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I played as Vader at the weekend. Turns out he's only locked in certain multiplayer scenarios* - in others, you just pick Vader from a list of baddies (assuming you get to pick first, as he's quite popular).

* The ones where you earn "battle points" as you play that particular game, and can spend them on gadgets and weapons and airstrikes an things - or you can flip into a "hero" character, which can only be heroes you've unlocked. Battle points are wasted if you don't spend them in that game, it's not a third currency.

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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars Battlefront
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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars Battlefront
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I’m thoroughly enjoying this in single and multiplayer.


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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars Battlefront
PostPosted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 14:21 
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Grim... wrote:
I played as Vader at the weekend. Turns out he's only locked in certain multiplayer scenarios* - in others, you just pick Vader from a list of baddies (assuming you get to pick first, as he's quite popular).

* The ones where you earn "battle points" as you play that particular game, and can spend them on gadgets and weapons and airstrikes an things - or you can flip into a "hero" character, which can only be heroes you've unlocked. Battle points are wasted if you don't spend them in that game, it's not a third currency.


So, you can be Bader a lot of the time, it's just that unless you X, Y, and Z, AND play a particular game mode AND score battlepoints then you cannot be him for a life, unless you have unlocked him?

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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars Battlefront
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AND play a particular game mode

"All the game modes you bought the game for," I think. Grim... is referring to the two-player Arcade mode which, from the reviews, sounds like a sideshow and not the thing you're mostly playing.


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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars Battlefront
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So, you can be Bader a lot of the time

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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars Battlefront
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
MaliA wrote:
AND play a particular game mode

"All the game modes you bought the game for," I think. Grim... is referring to the two-player Arcade mode which, from the reviews, sounds like a sideshow and not the thing you're mostly playing.

You can play him in Hero mode too, which is one of the standard many V many multiplayer modes.

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