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Author:  Mimi [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:44 ]
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MrD wrote:
Wonderful pics. :)

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violet.jpg

Your face is also lit up by the light in that pic, so it's hardly a fair comparison... though I'd put 50p on the 10000:1 bet that there's a white-that-fades-to-blue-behind-you fashion that I've never heard of.


Thank you :)

I don't think it is a particularly unfair comparison in the context: you'd said that you read only the colours presented to you in the pixels of the digital image, though here you actually show the background computation your brain does to adjust the image: The face has a blue/purple cast from some non-natual lighting, your brain tells you to subtract the same hue from the dress which you would then guess to be white.

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gold.jpg

That could be 'Royal Yellow', for sure.


Again, he lighting conditions show the dim, warm light in everything surrounding the dress: the walls, skin tones, shadow. If you apply the same logic as above your brain might return to you that if you take out the added warmth and darkness you are left with white.

I'm not saying you are wrong in either of these examples, but I think it helps to explain why people read images and colours differently: some take the pixel information as literal, whereas others perhaps read the lighting conditions and other factors to get to the colours as seen in natural light. From the looks of what you have written for each of those pictures, I would guess that you sit somewhere in the middle, as you seem to have done it for the first but not the second.

The dress was white, of course, but can look quite different in different lights: I would read all as 'white' or 'ivory', but understand that not everyone would do the same.

Author:  Mimi [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 8:49 ]
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Curiosity wrote:
Mimi wrote:
Russell said you are being genuine. I don't even know what to believe any more.

Maybe he is just the pillock.


I was being genuine!


Then thank you :) I thought you'd already seen them, I guess. There's a great one of you dancing to... something... I don't even know what, a great one of MaliA, Cras and Kov, too: https://www.flickr.com/photos/eskimimi/ ... 382119141/

Author:  MaliA [ Thu May 14, 2015 14:25 ]
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http://m.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/new ... ref=twtrec

ScIence!

Author:  Satsuma [ Thu May 14, 2015 14:34 ]
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The team adjusted the colour of a disc to correspond to the colours the participants saw in the photograph. Participants reported seeing a range of shades from light blue to dark blue, rather than only white and blue.


Blue and white then.

Author:  Mimi [ Tue May 22, 2018 11:24 ]
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basically it’s the dress thing again, but in audio

I hear ‘yanny’, or an approximation of. The funny thing in this, as in the dress, is that I absolutely cannot understand how someone else might see/hear the other option :)

Author:  Squirt [ Tue May 22, 2018 11:33 ]
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I absolutely hear "Laurel"

This has a tool where you can change the frequencies a bit - apparently it's all to do with how sensitive your hearing is at different ranges.

Author:  Trooper [ Tue May 22, 2018 11:49 ]
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It's yanny, no doubt about it.

Author:  Zardoz [ Tue May 22, 2018 11:51 ]
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Laurel.

The weirder one is this though as I hear what I'm thinking of each time:


Author:  Mimi [ Tue May 22, 2018 12:00 ]
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Zardoz wrote:
Laurel.

The weirder one is this though as I hear what I'm thinking of each time:


I find that less ‘weird’ as it were, as I’m listenjng to hear a different sound so can hear both. I cannot hear ‘Laurel’ for the life of me, though.

Author:  DavPaz [ Tue May 22, 2018 12:08 ]
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I hear Yanny, but it's all a big con anyway

Author:  myp [ Tue May 22, 2018 12:08 ]
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Mimi wrote:
basically it’s the dress thing again, but in audio

I hear ‘yanny’, or an approximation of. The funny thing in this, as in the dress, is that I absolutely cannot understand how someone else might see/hear the other option :)

At first I could only hear yanny, but now I can hear either depending on which frequency I tune in to. You can experiment by lowering or increasing the volume.

Author:  Bamba [ Tue May 22, 2018 13:26 ]
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I noticed an official Whitehouse YouTube video about all this yesterday which had various staff members giving their opinion. They were all wooden and terrible and cringey (especially fucking Sarah Sanders who I have a weird hatred of), but the most surprising aspect was Trump coming across quite well by saying that he heard 'covfefe'. It was actually amusing and surprising given that the ability to poke fun at himself is hardly what he's known for.

ETA: here it's here in fact.


Author:  Grim... [ Tue May 22, 2018 14:09 ]
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Aww, that's actually quite a cute little video :D

Shame they're all terrifying people.

Author:  DavPaz [ Tue May 22, 2018 14:20 ]
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I still can't ever see that dress as anything but blue and black.

Author:  myp [ Tue May 22, 2018 14:29 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
I still can't ever see that dress as anything but blue and black.

If you imagine the light source coming from the front (or back, whichever way round it is), it makes it easier.

Author:  Mimi [ Sun Oct 13, 2019 22:56 ]
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So what colours are this shoe?

Author:  Dimrill [ Sun Oct 13, 2019 23:22 ]
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cyany turquoise soles and laces, grey flesh.

Author:  TheVision [ Mon Oct 14, 2019 0:18 ]
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I agree with Dimrill.

Author:  Cras [ Mon Oct 14, 2019 0:23 ]
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Concur.

Author:  Sir Taxalot [ Mon Oct 14, 2019 2:49 ]
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Dunno, but the hand holding it sure looks a funny tone too.

Author:  myp [ Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:09 ]
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Pink and white.

Author:  Trooper [ Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:43 ]
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I agree with nick

Author:  myp [ Mon Oct 14, 2019 7:49 ]
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Now I’m in better light it’s cyan and grey. Weird.

Author:  myp [ Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:04 ]
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And they’re back to pink and white

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:19 ]
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Mr Chonks wrote:
Pink and white.

:this:

Author:  TheVision [ Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:37 ]
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Which bit are you seeing as pink and which bit white?

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Oct 14, 2019 8:59 ]
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The pink bit is pink. The white bits are white.

Author:  Jem [ Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:09 ]
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Grim... wrote:
The pink bit is pink. The white bits are white.

:DD

Cyan and grey here

Author:  Zardoz [ Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:35 ]
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The image above looks like a light turquoise and grey trainer.

As mentioned above the hand colour is off. A quick (automatic) colour correction in Photoshop leans more towards a pink shoe.

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:43 ]
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That's the same picture, as far as I'm concerned.

Author:  Cras [ Mon Oct 14, 2019 9:48 ]
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That one's pink and white.

Author:  Jem [ Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:28 ]
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WTF, they're now pink and white.

Author:  DavPaz [ Mon Oct 14, 2019 11:36 ]
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Jem wrote:
WTF, they're now pink and white.

Exactly my experience.

Author:  markg [ Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:21 ]
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I always feel like I'm missing the party with these things, I see them one way and it never changes and I can't even begin to understand how anyone sees it different. They're grey and cyan, the dress is white and gold.

Author:  krazywookie [ Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:28 ]
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I'm with grim... On this, those pictures are the same

Author:  Grim... [ Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:29 ]
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markg wrote:
They're grey and cyan, the dress is white and gold.

They're pink and white, and the dress is white and gold.

Author:  Zardoz [ Mon Oct 14, 2019 12:31 ]
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The real question is...

What colour bag do I get to go with my dress and trainers?

Author:  Mimi [ Tue Sep 07, 2021 19:49 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Well?

The most recent 99pi is about colour science and colour theory, and starts off talking about the dress in the first post of this thread.

I remember how at the time I could see nothing other than white and gold and all the blue and black seers were plain idiots.

Now I can only see blue and black and can’t even imagine how anyone, let alone me, ever saw white and gold.

Author:  Cras [ Tue Sep 07, 2021 20:24 ]
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Cras wrote:
Trooper wrote:
Yeah, the dress on the website is clearly black and blue. The dress in the picture is clearly white and gold.


You're brainwrong. I'm still convinced this white/gold thing is an exceptionally large scale windup.


Yup, it's now 100% white and gold. What the fuck.

Author:  Mimi [ Tue Sep 07, 2021 20:41 ]
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:DD

Author:  DavPaz [ Tue Sep 07, 2021 20:41 ]
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Blue and Black. 4eva

Author:  Zardoz [ Tue Sep 07, 2021 20:59 ]
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White and gold, you fucking subhumans!

Author:  Grim... [ Tue Sep 07, 2021 23:09 ]
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I remain in the white/gold camp.

Author:  DavPaz [ Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:42 ]
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Look, I've tried to lower myself to wrongness, I've even had to discipline my close family members for their wrongness, but I can't, never have, never will see a white/gold dress. It is 100% unchanging, DEMONSTRATABLY, blue.

Author:  MaliA [ Wed Sep 08, 2021 10:45 ]
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Still white and gold.

Author:  Cras [ Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:04 ]
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I just squished my eyes up and it's switched again

Author:  Kern [ Wed Sep 08, 2021 11:05 ]
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Still Team White and Gold after all these years.

Author:  DavPaz [ Fri Oct 07, 2022 7:50 ]
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Oh

Author:  Mimi [ Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:27 ]
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That’s such a brilliant and simple demonstration

Author:  Zardoz [ Fri Oct 07, 2022 8:34 ]
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It was a Siamese dress all along…

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