Where did I claim it was equivalent?

it's mildly amusing that downloading a show is bad, but breaking regional blocking is apparently ok

I agree, someone depriving the producers of Better Call Saul of their thrupence share of a Netflix subscription is a whole other kettle of moral fish than using a DNS thingy to access US content. What an absolutely outrageous bastard, sort of cunt who no doubt steals from the pick 'n' mix at the cinema.

What a cretin.

Netflix doesn't work like Spotify, where each stream earns the artist a fraction of a penny. It spends pretty big money on streaming rights, billions a year, and that amount is fixed and not paid per stream. That's a lot more than Spotify.

Sony could have sold Better Call Saul to any number of satellite channels, I'm sure, had it chosen to do so. It chose Netflix instead. Sony isn't a charity, so one assumes Netflix made a decent offer.

Although viewing figures, number of subscribers and such will be factors in the negotiation process.

Plus whether they allow their users to break the licensing agreements will have a big factor on what content the publishers are willing to give them.

Netflix have to walk a very fine line between the content providers and their customers, considering so many of their subscribers are from countries who don't even officially have Netflix access.

http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2 ... -vpn-users

Hmmm this seems to have escalated rather quickly....

I wasn't particularly trying to take any moral high ground, but I do think there's a basic point that if everyone simply pinches everything they want, then no one gets paid for their work and we don't get any stuff - I mean, that much is fundamental, obvious, and fair, surely?

In the past the argument for piracy was often about how there wasn't any viable legal alternative, or at least, one that didn't come loaded with onerous DRM and restrictions.

Netflix however is inexpensive, reliable, fast, and convenient. For reasonably well-heeled folks to just pinch stuff they want to watch when Netflix has it and costs what, £7 per month, just seems a bit off.

We should probably get a mod to move all the piracy discussion into a different thread really. And then lock it

No YOU'RE a cunt.

Let's take this to twitter!

Netflix very rarely has stuff at release. Better Call Saul is unusual.

House of Cards, Orange is the New Black, Wolf Lake?

House of Cards, Orange is the New Black, Wolf Lake?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_or ... by_Netflix

Netflix productions are totally different things to Netflix getting a distribution deal from a third party that lets them show on release day.

You're countering me saying something is very rare by giving me a single solitary example of when it's the case? Right.

Thought the 'ending' beginning showing Saul in hiding was a lovely nod to Breaking Bad's style.

The fact it was in black and white made me question the (totally legal-ed) download that I had.

Episode 4 watched, this is really good stuff!

Whatever doubts I had about this spin-off are now totally evaporated.