Better Call Saul

Hearthly · **Joined:** 11th May, 2008 **Posts:** 13382

Zardoz wrote:

Non of you watched the recap that was on Netflix?

DIRTY DOWNLOADERS

I was watching on Netflix but because I 'acquired' Season 2 of BCS and never watched it on Netflix, it still thought I needed to watch Season 2 and started at S02E01. By the time I'd got it to manually start S03E01, the recap thingy was no longer there so I went in cold.

(Incidentally BCS is the reason I resubbed to Netflix as I felt guilty for downloading it when it's so damn good and it's a Netflix production. I often go weeks without watching a single thing on Netflix but maintain my subscription as I think the content is worth it when I do watch.)

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

Netflix recaps are available at any time by selecting Seasons, then Trailers And More.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

Also, Better Call Saul isn't a Netflix production. It's made by AMC and Sony, the same as made Breaking Bad. Netflix bought the UK streaming rights, is all.

Satsuma · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14356

I agree with Hearty: read a summary. I didn't take heed and totally forgot exactly who Mike was going to pop.

Overall it was great. I forgot how much I hate Chuck; the actor is doing a tremendous job of making me hate him. More of this type of thing please.

It was interesting also that some slow lingering shots can really add to the atmosphere without feeling like a vain attempt to be all kooky and arthouse and shit. I'm looking at you Neon demon.

myp · **Posted:** Wed Apr 12, 2017 23:42

Satsuma wrote:

the actor

'The actor' being Michael McKean, who's been amazing in many things over the last four decades.

Morte · **Posted:** Sat Apr 15, 2017 14:00

Lonewolves wrote:

Satsuma wrote:

the actor

'The actor' being Michael McKean, who's been amazing in many things over the last four decades.

That's David St Hubbins to you.

myp · **Posted:** Sat Apr 15, 2017 16:23

Morte wrote:

Lonewolves wrote:

Satsuma wrote:

the actor

'The actor' being Michael McKean, who's been amazing in many things over the last four decades.

That's David St Hubbins to you.

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Hearthly · **Joined:** 11th May, 2008 **Posts:** 13382

S03E02 was superb. I realise this sounds like a back-handed compliment but it's almost daringly slow sometimes, totally sucks you into the characters and the situation, and then time fucking bends and the end credits roll and you're like, 'Eh, not already, I NEED MORE BETTER CALL SAUL DAMMIT'.

Lovely opening sequence with Mike too, not a single word spoken for the first ten minutes or so?

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Gus!

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16556

It was another good episode but:

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Why was Jimmy so nervous, hopeless and obvious about watching the guy in the diner? It seemed totally at odds with his character.

Hearthly · **Joined:** 11th May, 2008 **Posts:** 13382

markg wrote:

It was another good episode but:

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Why was Jimmy so nervous, hopeless and obvious about watching the guy in the diner? It seemed totally at odds with his character.

Yes I wondered that myself. Everything in the programme is so deliberate so there must be a reason for it but considering Jimmy's background as a hustler/con artist sort of chap, that kind of thing really shouldn't faze him at all.

Zardoz · **Posted:** Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:05

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Because the switch in his old office was left on Nervous Surveillance mode.

Findus Fop · **Joined:** 14th May, 2009 **Posts:** 4299

Watched the first couple of eps. As enjoyably languid as ever.

Regarding Mike and his radio-fettling:

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I understood ultimately what he was trying to achieve by turning the tracker on themselves, but I don't understand how he did it. How did he do it? I might have been distracted at the time/an idiot.

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16556

He bought an identical tracker and replaced the one on his car for that one. Then he took their tracker and connected it to a radio to run the battery down so they would come out to swap it out, only instead of taking their dead one they were taking his.

Findus Fop · **Joined:** 14th May, 2009 **Posts:** 4299

markg wrote:

He bought an identical tracker and replaced the one on his car for that one. Then he took their tracker and connected it to a radio to run the battery down so they would come out to swap it out, only instead of taking their dead one they were taking his.

aha! That makes sense, thank you. He's a wily old stoat.

Zardoz · **Posted:** Fri Apr 28, 2017 17:02

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Shoes and sniper rifle was awesome.

Zardoz · **Posted:** Wed May 03, 2017 12:29

This weeks episode seemed to shoot by.

Desperate to watch more when it ended, then felt bad that we've only a handful of episodes left this season.

Quality.

Findus Fop · **Joined:** 14th May, 2009 **Posts:** 4299

Wot Z said.

Was totally absorbed and before I knew it I was looking down the barrel of a 7-day wait for the next ep.

So afterwards I watched Catastrophe. Which continues to be pretty great and made me realise Mark Bonnar's character is due a Better Call Saul-style spin-off himself.

Hearthly · **Joined:** 11th May, 2008 **Posts:** 13382

Goodness me S03E05, 'Chicanery', was a stunningly, thrillingly superb episode.

Gah, I have no words, amazingly accomplished stuff, it's actually as good as Breaking Bad, and that's really, really saying something.

Satsuma · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14356

Hearthly wrote:

Goodness me S03E05, 'Chicanery', was a stunningly, thrillingly superb episode.

Gah, I have no words, amazingly accomplished stuff, it's actually as good as Breaking Bad, and that's really, really saying something.

I forgot it was on; saw your post and dived onto the downloadatron. You aren't wrong. What lovely stuff.

I hate Chuck. The TV made me hate Chuck. I hate Chuck because Chuck is Chuck. There's no actor, just Chuck. And I hate him.

Zardoz · **Posted:** Wed May 10, 2017 9:11

Superb episode. Even without Mike!

Yeah, this is every bit as good as Breaking Bad.

myp · **Posted:** Sat May 13, 2017 14:47

Holy crap on a cracker, episode 5!

Hearthly · **Joined:** 11th May, 2008 **Posts:** 13382

Episode 6 was necessarily a bit of a step down from Episode 5 in terms of intensity, but nonetheless a very engrossing 45 minutes of telly.

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Saul Goodman appears for the first time.

Good review here:

http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/tv/better-c ... -off-brand

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As Better Call Saul enters the home stretch of this season and the Breaking Bad references become more and more prevalent it’s becoming clear that the end of this show (and the beginning of the previous one) is slowly coming into sight. The pieces are in place that will create the world Walter White will come to dominate. Now the biggest question is what will happen to the characters we see no sign of when Walt walks into Saul’s office for the first time.

LewieP · **Joined:** 29th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 7600

I love the show, but when it leans hard into being a breaking bad sequel is the weakest part.

Zardoz · **Posted:** Wed May 17, 2017 12:21

Yeah, but it's brilliant at being a prequel.

:kiss:

myp · **Posted:** Wed May 17, 2017 21:01

They have already stated they may carry on BCS as a sequel once they get up to the start of BB.

Hearthly · **Joined:** 11th May, 2008 **Posts:** 13382

Very effective episode I thought (S03E07).

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We're now seeing a real transitional phase for Jimmy, fascinating to watch (him putting him the boot into Chuck at the end via the insurance company was genuinely nasty), and also the first cracks in his situation with Kim. Lovely scenes with Mike too and the grief-stricken widow.

As ever, thoroughly splendid stuff.

Zardoz · **Posted:** Wed May 24, 2017 11:17

Yeah.

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Really well done how they've shown Jimmy trying his best to keep things ticking over but getting squeezed into taking the inevitable dodgy path.

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

I've just started watching this... it's really rather good. I figured if Hearthly AND gaywood liked it, it must be good. And I've got three series to enjoy! Yay!

Cras · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 49232

Your bar is terrible.

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

No, your bar is terrible. And your face.

Hearthly · **Joined:** 11th May, 2008 **Posts:** 13382

So that's Season Three drawn to a close and it was, of course, most excellent.

We've still got a way to go between the world of BCS and BB though, I just hope everyone in the cast lives long enough for it to happen, and IMO they need to start tying up some loose ends pretty sharpish and leading us on into the BB world. (I've already decided I'll rewatch all of BB once BSC finishes.)

Whilst it'd be nice to have two more seasons, my personal feeling is they should try and get it all done in Season Four. (Which AMC haven't even renewed it for yet......)

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Chuck dead though!

asfish · **Joined:** 5th Dec, 2010 **Posts:** 3353

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(I've already decided I'll rewatch all of BB once BSC finishes.

Will be doing the same

Last episode was pretty good

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Shame to see chuck loose it and die after he had secured a payoff in the millions and appeared to be ok.

Have to wonder if Jimmy will get his class action money, I would say not, as surely he would not be doing the cheap arsed lawyer work he was in BB if he had picked up a million dollars?

Hearthly · **Joined:** 11th May, 2008 **Posts:** 13382

asfish wrote:

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Shame to see chuck loose it and die after he had secured a payoff in the millions and appeared to be ok.

Have to wonder if Jimmy will get his class action money, I would say not, as surely he would not be doing the cheap arsed lawyer work he was in BB if he had picked up a million dollars?

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Well that's the point with Chuck, he'd basically lost everything, as HHM was everything to him. He didn't need more money as he was already fairly wealthy, he wanted back in at the firm but Howard outmanoeuvred him by coming up with the cash, which Chuck knew the firm didn't have so wasn't expecting, but Howard bought him out with his own cash and loans. Chuck's final show of power was to belittle Jimmy, 'You were never that important to me', and with Jimmy gone, Chuck had nothing.

As for Jimmy's Sandpiper settlement, he gave it up because he could see what he'd done to Irene at the home, he thought he'd be able to get the other ladies back on-side after he'd secured Irene going for the settlement, but they wouldn't budge. As such he sacrificed the settlement to save Irene.

asfish · **Joined:** 5th Dec, 2010 **Posts:** 3353

Hearthly wrote:

asfish wrote:

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Shame to see chuck loose it and die after he had secured a payoff in the millions and appeared to be ok.

Have to wonder if Jimmy will get his class action money, I would say not, as surely he would not be doing the cheap arsed lawyer work he was in BB if he had picked up a million dollars?

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Well that's the point with Chuck, he'd basically lost everything, as HHM was everything to him. He didn't need more money as he was already fairly wealthy, he wanted back in at the firm but Howard outmanoeuvred him by coming up with the cash, which Chuck knew the firm didn't have so wasn't expecting, but Howard bought him out with his own cash and loans. Chuck's final show of power was to belittle Jimmy, 'You were never that important to me', and with Jimmy gone, Chuck had nothing.

As for Jimmy's Sandpiper settlement, he gave it up because he could see what he'd done to Irene at the home, he thought he'd be able to get the other ladies back on-side after he'd secured Irene going for the settlement, but they wouldn't budge. As such he sacrificed the settlement to save Irene.

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I thought that Jimmy was just trying to push the Sandpiper settlement early rather than wait for the money? I figured that he will still get paid out at some point in the future when the case gets settled?

LewieP · **Joined:** 29th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 7600

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I can imagine that there will be drama linked to what happens to Chuck's money, I wonder whether his will would say Jimmy can get his money if he does [x]. Or maybe HHM interferes and gets the bulk of his money, and maybe offers Jimmy some of it if he agrees to [y].

Hearthly · **Joined:** 11th May, 2008 **Posts:** 13382

Oh yes and Kim's bottom in those pyjamas. That was nice.

I was certainly 'seeing the horn'.

asfish · **Joined:** 5th Dec, 2010 **Posts:** 3353

LewieP wrote:

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I can imagine that there will be drama linked to what happens to Chuck's money, I wonder whether his will would say Jimmy can get his money if he does [x]. Or maybe HHM interferes and gets the bulk of his money, and maybe offers Jimmy some of it if he agrees to [y].

I was wondering about that....

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I'm not aware that Jimmy and Chuck have any other family so you would think Jimmy would get the money.

But last night before he told Jimmy 'You were never that important to me' he was doing paper work at his desk so I wonder if he was cutting Jimmy out of his will.

LewieP · **Joined:** 29th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 7600

asfish wrote:

LewieP wrote:

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I can imagine that there will be drama linked to what happens to Chuck's money, I wonder whether his will would say Jimmy can get his money if he does [x]. Or maybe HHM interferes and gets the bulk of his money, and maybe offers Jimmy some of it if he agrees to [y].

I was wondering about that....

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I'm not aware that Jimmy and Chuck have any other family so you would think Jimmy would get the money.

But last night before he told Jimmy 'You were never that important to me' he was doing paper work at his desk so I wonder if he was cutting Jimmy out of his will.

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Right. I doubt he would cut him out entirely. It'll be "you have to do something that means I get the last laugh in order to get the money", Jimmy will just refuse because he doesn't need the money, but then circumstances will develop that he needs the money (to help Kim with something), and have to do whatever Chuck wanted in the end. Somehow his relationship with Kim will become fractured and he'll begin his full on descent into Saul Goodman.

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

I'm a few eps into series 2. Oh my god this continues to be brilliant. Kim is just awesome as a character. I would definitely hire her.

Cavey · **Posted:** Thu Jun 22, 2017 23:06

MrChris wrote:

I would definitely hire her.

Must admit I wasn't giving much thought to her CV....
Mmmm. Tall blondes

MrChris · **Joined:** 1st Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 30498

And if we're going in that direction, who the hell wants anyone under 30?

Zardoz · **Posted:** Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:46

Superb season finale.

Aw man, now the wait is on.

Hearthly · **Joined:** 11th May, 2008 **Posts:** 13382

I hope they wrap it up this season, before key cast members start to die.

Also, MORE BETTER CALL SAUL!

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myp · **Posted:** Mon Jul 30, 2018 14:12

They have mentioned they may go past BB's timeline so BCS bookends it. I'm not sure how I feel about that.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

Lonewolves wrote:

They have mentioned they may go past BB's timeline so BCS bookends it. I'm not sure how I feel about that.

Well that's literally already happened, albeit only for a total of a few minutes across BCS's run so far.

myp · **Posted:** Mon Jul 30, 2018 19:50

Doctor Glyndwr wrote:

Lonewolves wrote:

They have mentioned they may go past BB's timeline so BCS bookends it. I'm not sure how I feel about that.

Well that's literally already happened, albeit only for a total of a few minutes across BCS's run so far.

I mean actual seasons focused on it after they wrap up the prequel.

Zardoz · **Posted:** Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:33

Better Call Saul - Season 4 is out!

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16556

One a week or all at once?

Zardoz · **Posted:** Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:46

Muskerhounds are always ready!

Trooper · **Joined:** 4th Mar, 2010 **Posts:** 22266

Zardoz wrote:

Muskerhounds are always ready!

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