Be Excellent To Each Other

Super-simple game setup: Some mafia, an SK, some villagers.

Once the game starts and the roles are assigned, villagers pay £2 each, mafia pay £3 each and the SK pays 50p.

At the end of the game, the surviving members of the winning team get the pot. It's up to them if they want to share it with the dead members.

All night actions / results could be documented in the dead thread, to make sure the GM didn't fudge the results (the usernames would have to be anonymised to stop people playing the game from just checking the thread, of course).

It would, of course, be called Mafia $cum.

Which looks interesting if you're a programmer.

In, but only if I can be the SK as I'm a skinflint.

In

No, you tools. This is an idea for discussion, not an invite!

Oh, ok.

In.

Why the different "buy-ins"? Pay more based on how much easier winning will be for your team?

Ok, should I be in?

I could be in...

Is the SK role to survive or kill n people?

Yeah - obviously it's way harder for the SK to win, so they put up less monies.

Dunno. If it's kill n people then the game ends if they do.

SK should put in more, but pay out based not on winning but on kills. 25p for a townie, 75p for a mafia, or somesuch, with the money removed from the pot before the winning team collect.

That could make some sense. Maybe all the money starts off in the townie pot and then moves to the faction that killed each of them.

Everyone pays the same, and the role allocation is random. That's the only way to be fair really, everything else is too convoluted and ripe for argument.

No it isn't.

yeah, each death triggers a movement of a percentage of the pool into the killer (or town's pool if they strung them up during the day)

So if there were 4 mafia and the 10 town managed to lynch one of them, the mafia would lose a quarter of the pot. But when the mafia go killing at night, they get 1/10th of the towns pot. Etc.

Malc

The day I find myself arguing over £3 you have my permission to shoot me in the head.

Role allocation would be random, but I don't see why people paying different amounts wouldn't be fair.

The only thing there is if the town lynches a townie than I'm not sure what would happen - the money would go into a "lynch" pot that goes to the eventual winners, I guess.

Do we know what the win likelihood is for each role? We can have a guess, but I suspect it would be a poor one. Different prices need to be linked to chance to win, surely.

It stays with town, they get all money from the lynch.

I would say the dead should get a share of their team's spoils. Otherwise it would lead to a game where people don't take risks.

Malc

Maybe if we started playing in a casino, but for a low-stake game like this surely it's close enough?

I think your original idea sounded simpler. To be honest, I'd simplify it further still, say £2.50 per person, regardless of role. Assign roles randomly after everyone has paid to join. That way the role assignment (and likelihood of winning) is down to luck, as it is in any mafia game.

Then just let the winning alive members split the pot at the end, decide if they want to share it with their dead comrades if you wish.

Sorry Trooper, I must have missed your post. But yeah, what you said.

How about instead of charging money for entry, you let people play for free?

Pay £5 for extra lives. Pay £10 for extra night actions.

£60 best value for Fucking GazChap Up!

So, assuming you're serious - this would give a different angle to the game. You've actually got something tangible to lose (and win).

You should have in game post restrictions and purchases that mean you're only allowed to post once every hour unless you pay for extra posting rights. That sounds like a way to ruin it.

A side issue of any buyin/payout mechanic is that it raises the possibility of non-role defined alliances. So the SK could offer a townie a share of his pot for distracting attention, for example.

Micro payments are ruining MafiaScum!

It would hopefully also cut down on those people who sign up and don't really engage or bother to post if there were a stake to lose and a potential prize to win.

Im assuming that deal would have to be done in the game thread, as per the usual rules?

This would be poor value for Curio though, £2 for a maximum of one day playing.

Kickstarter. Then keep cutting promised features, such as the offline mode.

I don't see why we couldn't have extra-game thread communication in some circumstances, if not all. It already is a key feature for the role-defined alliances.

Also, there is potential for mischief and misleading to be had, which would also be fun.

Does your team Include the axis of Belm?
If Yes-0% chance of winning.

Then Craster and I pay nothing. Win-win!

Start the sweep!

Maybe we all get assigned bonus extra forum sock puppets to play with?

Or done via the GM?