Bits & Bobs 44

KovacsC · **Posted:** Tue Jun 02, 2015 10:25

I can't see how.. They are getting slimmer and more powerful, better cameras.

What more can they do?

Grim... · **Posted:** Tue Jun 02, 2015 10:26

So you think they should take a risk to sell phones to people who complain about their phones and buy them anyway?

Satsuma · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14360

Grim... wrote:

My point is that they're making kabillions of dollars, and selling gigatonnes of devices, despite you not liking the new phones (which you bought anyway). If they change their strategy then they're insane.

Obviously. But that's never stopped a good rant.

Mind you, if Google does a no-touch screen I'll get that cause it sounds ace. Or a Windows phone cause I fancy it next time. I'm bored of iPhones.

Bamba · **Joined:** 25th Jul, 2010 **Posts:** 11128

KovacsC wrote:

I can't see how.. They are getting slimmer and more powerful, better cameras.

What more can they do?

With respect, the fact that you personally can't see anything that could be done isn't the same as there being nothing to be done. Maybe you couldn't have imagined them putting a fingerprint sensor on the front? Or an NFC chip to handle payments? Or Siri?

Bobbyaro · **Joined:** 18th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 11843

KovacsC wrote:

I can't see how.. They are getting slimmer and more powerful, better cameras.

What more can they do?

Yeah, you're right. There is no further innovation available.

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16560

I think that those no touch screens look like they will revolutionise phones in the same way that Kinect revolutionised gaming.

Bamba · **Joined:** 25th Jul, 2010 **Posts:** 11128

Grim... wrote:

So you think they should take a risk to sell phones to people who complain about their phones and buy them anyway?

My actual position was based on this:

"If enough people feel that each iteration isn't adding enough to make it worthwhile upgrading and are therefore staying with their existing handset"

I'm not saying that market does exist for sure, hence the 'if' there.

Grim... · **Posted:** Tue Jun 02, 2015 10:32

KovacsC wrote:

What more can they do?

::deep breath::
Bendable
Wearable
Componant-able
Alternative energy sources
Artificial intelligence
Put them in my brain
Self healing
Projecting
PC-replacing
Contactless
Resizable
Theft-proof
Gets you laid

Grim... · **Posted:** Tue Jun 02, 2015 10:34

Saturnalian wrote:

Mind you, if Google does a no-touch screen I'll get that cause it sounds ace. Or a Windows phone cause I fancy it next time. I'm bored of iPhones.

Although it's not as refined, this phone is two years old now...

Satsuma · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14360

He didn't demonstrate them in the video. Tch. It seems a bit limited from the 4 options shown though although I like the idea of waving the page up and down while browsing. So yeah, more of that sort of stuff please.

KovacsC · **Posted:** Tue Jun 02, 2015 11:31

Bamba wrote:

KovacsC wrote:

I can't see how.. They are getting slimmer and more powerful, better cameras.

What more can they do?

With respect, the fact that you personally can't see anything that could be done isn't the same as there being nothing to be done. Maybe you couldn't have imagined them putting a fingerprint sensor on the front? Or an NFC chip to handle payments? Or Siri?

Fingerprints have been on laptops for years.
There is nothing new in that..

Personally I want a phone that is a little more robust..

Grim... · **Posted:** Tue Jun 02, 2015 11:34

http://www.ebay.co.uk/bhp/land-rover-phone

Bamba · **Joined:** 25th Jul, 2010 **Posts:** 11128

KovacsC wrote:

Bamba wrote:

KovacsC wrote:

I can't see how.. They are getting slimmer and more powerful, better cameras.

What more can they do?

With respect, the fact that you personally can't see anything that could be done isn't the same as there being nothing to be done. Maybe you couldn't have imagined them putting a fingerprint sensor on the front? Or an NFC chip to handle payments? Or Siri?

Fingerprints have been on laptops for years.
There is nothing new in that..

Right, but that was just one example there to make my point. Which I presume you're missing.

KovacsC · **Posted:** Tue Jun 02, 2015 11:41

Bamba wrote:

KovacsC wrote:

Bamba wrote:

KovacsC wrote:

I can't see how.. They are getting slimmer and more powerful, better cameras.

What more can they do?

With respect, the fact that you personally can't see anything that could be done isn't the same as there being nothing to be done. Maybe you couldn't have imagined them putting a fingerprint sensor on the front? Or an NFC chip to handle payments? Or Siri?

Fingerprints have been on laptops for years.
There is nothing new in that..

Right, but that was just one example there to make my point. Which I presume you're missing.

No not missing the point..

But phones have evolved in past 6 years. Still the same basic device, even google phones have not changed that much.

Bamba · **Joined:** 25th Jul, 2010 **Posts:** 11128

KovacsC wrote:

Bamba wrote:

KovacsC wrote:

Bamba wrote:

KovacsC wrote:

I can't see how.. They are getting slimmer and more powerful, better cameras.

What more can they do?

With respect, the fact that you personally can't see anything that could be done isn't the same as there being nothing to be done. Maybe you couldn't have imagined them putting a fingerprint sensor on the front? Or an NFC chip to handle payments? Or Siri?

Fingerprints have been on laptops for years.
There is nothing new in that..

Right, but that was just one example there to make my point. Which I presume you're missing.

No not missing the point..

But phones have evolved in past 6 years. Still the same basic device, even google phones have not changed that much.

Well, it comes down to what you consider 'enough change'. You could argue that nothing has changed in even longer than that given that 'touch screen smart phone with internet capabilities' have been around for much longer than 6 years. I think though most people would disagree if you said that no significant changes have been made between this:

and this:

And that's slightly besides the point anyway. Really what I'm saying is that just because you or I can't see where the room to innovate is doesn't mean it doesn't exist. If everyone thought like that we'd still be driving Model Ts and <insert other ludicrous comparisons>.

Satsuma · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14360

I want this as standard. http://youtu.be/uLpjPMQ1mW8

KovacsC · **Posted:** Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:30

Bamba wrote:

KovacsC wrote:

Bamba wrote:

KovacsC wrote:

Bamba wrote:

KovacsC wrote:

I can't see how.. They are getting slimmer and more powerful, better cameras.

What more can they do?

With respect, the fact that you personally can't see anything that could be done isn't the same as there being nothing to be done. Maybe you couldn't have imagined them putting a fingerprint sensor on the front? Or an NFC chip to handle payments? Or Siri?

Fingerprints have been on laptops for years.
There is nothing new in that..

Right, but that was just one example there to make my point. Which I presume you're missing.

No not missing the point..

But phones have evolved in past 6 years. Still the same basic device, even google phones have not changed that much.

Well, it comes down to what you consider 'enough change'. You could argue that nothing has changed in even longer than that given that 'touch screen smart phone with internet capabilities' have been around for much longer than 6 years. I think though most people would disagree if you said that no significant changes have been made between this:

and this:

And that's slightly besides the point anyway. Really what I'm saying is that just because you or I can't see where the room to innovate is doesn't mean it doesn't exist. If everyone thought like that we'd still be driving Model Ts and <insert other ludicrous comparisons>.

I like to be surprised..

Mr Russell · **Joined:** 6th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 12243

Someone showed me their Android phone a few months ago. Think it was a Samsung something.

He turned on the option to track my eyes, and then loaded up a long web page article.

Bugger me, the thing scrolled as I read just from the minute flicking of my eyes. Well impressed.

Grim... · **Posted:** Tue Jun 02, 2015 12:58

Yeah, that's cool when it works (low light conditions tend to flummox it). It can also pause video if you look away, and stops the screen locking if you're looking at your phone.

markg · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 16560

Heh. Just wait until the fucking adverts on YouTube work like that.

Warhead · Noob as of 6/8/10

KovacsC wrote:

Bamba wrote:

KovacsC wrote:

I can't see how.. They are getting slimmer and more powerful, better cameras.

What more can they do?

With respect, the fact that you personally can't see anything that could be done isn't the same as there being nothing to be done. Maybe you couldn't have imagined them putting a fingerprint sensor on the front? Or an NFC chip to handle payments? Or Siri?

Fingerprints have been on laptops for years.
There is nothing new in that..

Personally I want a phone that is a little more robust..

And one that you can clean the fingerprints off more easily.

There seems to be what is probably dried saliva on mine as well.

Warhead · Noob as of 6/8/10

I asked my doctor if he was shocked by the skinny pill that is sweeping the nation. He hadn't got a clue what I was talking about.

Just more evidence that the National Health Service IS going to the dogs.

Curiosity · **Posted:** Tue Jun 02, 2015 13:36

Warhead wrote:

I asked my doctor if he was shocked by the skinny pill that is sweeping the nation. He hadn't got a clue what I was talking about.

Just more evidence that the National Health Service IS going to the dogs.

the discussion on phone innovation reminds me of when my sister said that all the good ideas for the Internet had already been done. This was about 15 years ago.

Dr Zoidberg · **Joined:** 15th Oct, 2010 **Posts:** 5157

Curiosity wrote:

Warhead wrote:

I asked my doctor if he was shocked by the skinny pill that is sweeping the nation. He hadn't got a clue what I was talking about.

Just more evidence that the National Health Service IS going to the dogs.

the discussion on phone innovation reminds me of when my sister said that all the good ideas for the Internet had already been done. This was about 15 years ago.

Well at least they'd got internet porn done by then

Bobbyaro · **Joined:** 18th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 11843

Curiosity wrote:

Warhead wrote:

I asked my doctor if he was shocked by the skinny pill that is sweeping the nation. He hadn't got a clue what I was talking about.

Just more evidence that the National Health Service IS going to the dogs.

the discussion on phone innovation reminds me of when my sister said that all the good ideas for the Internet had already been done. This was about 15 years ago.

I typed that quote in response to KovacsC, but gave up.

Warhead · Noob as of 6/8/10

KovacsC wrote:

Bamba wrote:

KovacsC wrote:

Bamba wrote:

KovacsC wrote:

Bamba wrote:

KovacsC wrote:

I can't see how.. They are getting slimmer and more powerful, better cameras.

What more can they do?

With respect, the fact that you personally can't see anything that could be done isn't the same as there being nothing to be done. Maybe you couldn't have imagined them putting a fingerprint sensor on the front? Or an NFC chip to handle payments? Or Siri?

Fingerprints have been on laptops for years.
There is nothing new in that..

Right, but that was just one example there to make my point. Which I presume you're missing.

No not missing the point..

But phones have evolved in past 6 years. Still the same basic device, even google phones have not changed that much.

Well, it comes down to what you consider 'enough change'. You could argue that nothing has changed in even longer than that given that 'touch screen smart phone with internet capabilities' have been around for much longer than 6 years. I think though most people would disagree if you said that no significant changes have been made between this:

Snipped to save space

and this:

See above

And that's slightly besides the point anyway. Really what I'm saying is that just because you or I can't see where the room to innovate is doesn't mean it doesn't exist. If everyone thought like that we'd still be driving Model Ts and <insert other ludicrous comparisons>.

I like to be surprised..

BOO!!

Warhead · Noob as of 6/8/10

Curiosity wrote:

Warhead wrote:

I asked my doctor if he was shocked by the skinny pill that is sweeping the nation. He hadn't got a clue what I was talking about.

Just more evidence that the National Health Service IS going to the dogs.

the discussion on phone innovation reminds me of when my sister said that all the good ideas for the Internet had already been done. This was about 15 years ago.

She was right, it's all part of the grand plan to keep us buying.

The bloke who invented the Nono invented the Nono Pro at the same time, but he's not stoopid.

miki · **Joined:** 30th Apr, 2011 **Posts:** 1458 **Location:** NL

you made me google what a Nono is...

Warhead · Noob as of 6/8/10

miki wrote:

you made me google what a Nono is...

It's a Thermic lance for body hair.

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38464

Bloody hell, I was on the front seat of The Smiler on Saturday!

Dr Zoidberg · **Joined:** 15th Oct, 2010 **Posts:** 5157

Is it any good without crushing leg injuries? I've not been to Alton Towers for about 5 years so there's a few new rides I need to try out.

Doctor Glyndwr · **Joined:** 30th Mar, 2008 **Posts:** 32619

Bamba wrote:

If enough people feel that each iteration isn't adding enough to make it worthwhile upgrading and are therefore staying with their existing handset then you could make the argument they're leaving money on the table.

Quarterly global iPhone sales show that clearly "enough people" do not feel that way.

MaliA · **Posted:** Tue Jun 02, 2015 17:14

Another job interview done. I generally don't mind them, but today I was a bit aware I sound like a sociopath.

Satsuma · **Joined:** 20th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 14360

I've got another idea:

New policy on building semi-detached housing: all new semi-detached houses to be built with a communal area where neighbours can sit and hang out.

Make it so people.

GazChap · **Posted:** Tue Jun 02, 2015 19:39

DavPaz wrote:

Bloody hell, I was on the front seat of The Smiler on Saturday!

Jem and I went to Alton Towers a month or two ago, and I refused to go on the Smiler for two reasons:

1) I was feeling a little off after a dodgy breakfast at the restaurant near the main entrance
2) The ride's troubled history, with an unusually large number of incidents during its operational lifespan - including one where a wheel fell off and hit some people in the face.

Jem laughed at me.

I feel vindicated.

Today's incident raises some serious questions about that ride, and indeed rollercoasters in general. I always thought that the computers controlling these rides were failsafed up the wazoo and that it was impossible, barring failure of multiple redundant systems, for two carriages to collide - let alone at speed.

Goddess Jasmine · **Posted:** Tue Jun 02, 2015 20:18

Saturnalian wrote:

I've got another idea:

New policy on building semi-detached housing: all new semi-detached houses to be built with a communal area where neighbours can sit and hang out.

Make it so people.

Why would you want that? You don't socialise!

Bobbyaro · **Joined:** 18th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 11843

Fucking Amazon, I have £118 in gift certificates, but they won't let me use it as my card has expired. I just want to use the gift card balance ffs!

Bobbyaro · **Joined:** 18th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 11843

And apparently, amazingly, do not have a complaints email address.

DavPaz · **Joined:** 27th Jun, 2008 **Posts:** 38464

Dr Zoidberg wrote:

Is it any good without crushing leg injuries? I've not been to Alton Towers for about 5 years so there's a few new rides I need to try out.

I thought it was fantastic. As I was walking away from it, it was closed for technical issues though

Mr Russell · **Joined:** 6th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 12243

We had a vote at work to name our new system that will be replacing our current central system (written in Cache, language fans).

The winner was Phoenix, narrowly beating out Bob.

Jem · **Posted:** Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:15

GazChap wrote:

DavPaz wrote:

Bloody hell, I was on the front seat of The Smiler on Saturday!

Jem and I went to Alton Towers a month or two ago, and I refused to go on the Smiler for two reasons:

1) I was feeling a little off after a dodgy breakfast at the restaurant near the main entrance
2) The ride's troubled history, with an unusually large number of incidents during its operational lifespan - including one where a wheel fell off and hit some people in the face.

Jem laughed at me.

I feel vindicated.

Today's incident raises some serious questions about that ride, and indeed rollercoasters in general. I always thought that the computers controlling these rides were failsafed up the wazoo and that it was impossible, barring failure of multiple redundant systems, for two carriages to collide - let alone at speed.

I'd go on it again.

And I'd ride at the front.

:DD

Grim... · **Posted:** Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:15

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Bob ?

Mr Russell · **Joined:** 6th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 12243

Grim... wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Bob ?

A non successful product? It SHOULD have been called Bob!

Kern · **Posted:** Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:30

Bob was a girl hamster.

Kern · **Posted:** Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:33

Grim... wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Bob ?

I'm starting to think that this is what that annoying 'upgrade Windows' icon that now sits on my taskbar (and won't go away no matter how many times I tell it to) is advertising.

Bobbyaro · **Joined:** 18th Apr, 2008 **Posts:** 11843

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Grim... · **Posted:** Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:36

Kern wrote:

Bob was a girl hamster.

Mr Nash doesn't want you sharing his photos. THAT'S NOT THE WAY OF THE INTERNET.

Bamba · **Joined:** 25th Jul, 2010 **Posts:** 11128

Kern wrote:

Grim... wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Bob ?

I'm starting to think that this is what that annoying 'upgrade Windows' icon that now sits on my taskbar (and won't go away no matter how many times I tell it to) is advertising.

Do you think that because you don't know what it's actually for?

TheVision · **Posted:** Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:53

Couldn't you make this forum resemble Bob? Give it a second chance and all that.

KovacsC · **Posted:** Wed Jun 03, 2015 10:04

What is BoB?

Be Excellent To Each Other

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