Unless you've been dropped from the team you're still part of the team, right?

Kovacs thinks he is helping but is just clouding the issue.

Fans invest a lot of time and money into their favourite sports teams, buying merchandise, tickets, watching terrible performances, etc. Without fans, these teams don't exist.

So yes, I think fans can refer to their team as 'we/us'.

*drops mic*

I support Liverpool FC, but haven't spent a penny in years, and rarely make the effort to watch games. I want them to win if I see them playing, though, and would consider myself a fan.

Can I say "we"?

Yes, that is "we" you play for them, ffs!

Yeah, but Grim originally said if he wasn't playing that game (injured or whatever) then he couldn't say 'we'. Hence my silly work analogy, which is very much the same if you an actual part of the team, and very different to me using 'we' for Villa or England or whatever.

Actually, that's a thing. Does it change if you use we to support a national team? I mean, the players are arguably representing a nation to which I belong.

What's a good question. I'd prefer if you didn't, but I guess it's up to you. It's not going to annoy me greatly.

I think you'll find you dropped the mic. You want back in on this conversation, slink back over and pick it the fuck back up.

Why not ?

I play for a team so I refer to as we.. If I watch the team and not play still we?

I think you'll find you dropped the mic. You want back in on this conversation, slink back over and pick it the fuck back up.

I took this to mean he is watching the team he normally plays for.

It is, however, open to interpretation.

I have my own mic. I dropped that one for effect.

We're having another baby!

Here you go, Trooper:

midnightresistance.co.uk/articles/plight-grown-ass-gamer

I liked it better when we posted this the first time.

So, something kicked off big time on Twitter this morning. Check @freebsdgirl's timeline for details. I may have got myself involved. Oops.

It really was a terrifying glimpse into the soul of the insane. I quite enjoyed it, but wouldn't want to do it every day.

I'd like to hear asfish's input on this before I reach any conclusions.

http://blip.tv/foldablehuman/s4e7-gamergate-7071206

That's quite long, but rather good.

I find it fascinating that the same people that castigate others for making sweeping generalisations about others then talk in the same breath about what 'gamergaters' clearly all think.

Yeah, I can't really credit anyone (save perhaps for those in the industry and on the wrong end of it) in their right mind being sufficiently bothered purely about some dodgy game reviews to want to do much of anything about it, let alone take it up as a cause.

the entire 'movement' is now synonymous with vicious, utterly unacceptable hatred. Anyone still attempting to stand under it's banner is either a vicious utterly unacceptable who genuinely likes what it's become; or is simply too stupid to realise that the enormous volumes of tar they're being brushed with while standing there is blackening their message to nothing and, in fact, making any genuine issues that much easier to ignore.

but didn't the aforementioned female dev admit to having sexy-time with pretty much everyone involved but was also unapologetic about it?

No one's going to halt production of fucking Call of Manshooter 15

Nope, nothing even remotely like that happened. I suggest you do some reading before propagating further nonsense.

I wouldn't say that, game journalism should be ethical and should be taken seriously, especially now with the massive value of the industry, and there are genuinely worrying levels of collusion that've been exposed in the past.

I find it fascinating that the same people that castigate others for making sweeping generalisations about others then talk in the same breath about what 'gamergaters' clearly all think.

but didn't the aforementioned female dev admit to having sexy-time with pretty much everyone involved but was also unapologetic about it?

I'm not propagating anything, dickhead, I'm asking a question and looking for a response.