We all look the same with no clothes on

Objection!

Ok, lets find out? You go first.

Anyway... The internet is a horrible place isn't it?

For years, I've generally gone by the thought of don't put anything you'd care about being public knowledge on the internet as once it leaves your control, you'll likely never have control of it again.

For years, I've generally gone by the thought of don't put anything you'd care about being public knowledge on the internet as once it leaves your control, you'll likely never have control of it again.

PM sent.

*checks PM* is it cold where you are then?

If I had any nudes appear, I'd laugh it off. We all look the same with no clothes on and I'd play that "I look pretty good in those pics"

Is this hack some sophisticated thing or is it more like a phone hacking type of deal?

Nobody knows yet. It appears to be quite widespread, if even half of the hackers list of alleged pictures is true. That hints at a hack of iCloud (either Photo Stream or the iOS backup service) rather than anyone targeting individual phones.

There's a lot of people (celebrity-people, not hacker-people) involved, so it doesn't seem likely that they got hold of individual emails and passwords (unless they've figured out some sort of scam).

"If you didn't want to get burgled you shouldn't have gone on holiday."

"If you didn't want to get mugged you shouldn't have walked home."

"If you didn't want to get raped you shouldn't have gone out in such a short skirt."

Well, yes. Control the risks you can, because some people will take advantage if you don't. Doesn't mean they shouldn't but you can't control them. Prevention being better than cure and that.

It uses Find My Iphone service API, where bruteforce protection was not implemented. Password list was generated from top 500 RockYou leaked passwords, which satisfy appleID password policy. Before you start, make sure it's not illegal in your country.

https://github.com/hackappcom/ibrute

Feminists would eat you alive if you disagreed on the third point there. The standard comeback is 'Don't teach women to avoid rape, teach men not to rape', because obviously, it's that simple.

I personally favour the analogy of walking around with money hanging out of your pocket. You typically acknowledge the risks of the society in which we live, unfortunate though they are, and it would be considered your fault for failing to mitigate them.

Now obviously that doesn't mean don't go out in a short skirt, Dave, but also don't get passed-out drunk, or leave your drinks unattended, or walk home alone, etc. You simply take actions to minimise the risks that inarguably exist.

More rape occurs when the woman is sober. Surely they should be getting drunk instead?

More rape occurs when the woman is sober. Surely they should be getting drunk instead?

More rape occurs when the woman is sober. Surely they should be getting drunk instead?

Um... Is that like saying "Most rape occurs when not listening to Whigfield on a stereo, so listen to Whigfield?"

Only if there was a concerted marketing effort to blame those getting raped on not listening to Whigfield.

you were clearly asking for it.

It is a terrible violation.

Phew. I'm glad I didn't say anything approaching that or I might have looked silly there.



I don't think anyone here disagrees with this.

I didn't quote you or suggest you had, I referenced your analogy. However, the way you worded it, failure to acting in a mitigating way, was taken to mean there is blame with the victim in this case. And to further expand on my point, I don't believe an opportunistic thief, who arguably is a common occurrence in society, is in anyway comparable to a violent sex offender. You probably would expect to get robbed if you have money hanging out of your pocket; you do not go out expecting to raped if you wear a short skirt.

I didn't suggest anyone did disagree. I was voicing my opinion on it, not debating it.

For years, I've generally gone by the thought of don't put anything you'd care about being public knowledge on the internet as once it leaves your control, you'll likely never have control of it again.

There's a huge difference between posting something on Facebook or similar where it's essentially public, and using a supposedly secure cloud storage system like this though.

You probably would expect to get robbed if you have money hanging out of your pocket; you do not go out expecting to raped if you wear a short skirt.

No there's not - that's the point. Assume anything you put on the Internet is visible to anyone and stays there forever.

No there's not - that's the point. Assume anything you put on the Internet is visible to anyone and stays there forever.

I'm well aware that nothing online is ever going to be guaranteed to be 100% secure, but then neither are banks and you wouldn't put any blame on someone who had their valuables stolen from a safe deposit box.

To comment is to debate.

I specifically said you shouldn't *not* go out in a short skirt, but should otherwise take precautions to mitigate your risks. It's quite the wilful leap to go from that to 'victim-blaming', as the feminists are so keen to say. But then it doesn't take much to warp a statement to mean whatever you want, if that's your intention.

I will rephase again for clarity: People shouldn't, but they will, so expect them to and avoid where possible. It might not be their fault but it would be stupid to be irreverent of the real risks that unquestionably exist.

No there's not - that's the point. Assume anything you put on the Internet is visible to anyone and stays there forever.