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Author:  Mr Russell [ Thu Feb 19, 2015 16:47 ]
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tch.... Steve.

Author:  Trooper [ Thu Feb 19, 2015 16:59 ]
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Twisted motherfucking flax!

Only Connect is brilliant.

Author:  Mimi [ Thu Feb 19, 2015 17:27 ]
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Horn-ed viper.

Monday's are best days.

Then Thursday (sewing bee)

Author:  Kern [ Thu Feb 19, 2015 19:45 ]
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Lib Dems - 50% - Democracy; Economy; Environment; Health/NHS; Welfare
Con - 20% - Europe; Foreign Policy; Defence
Green - 20% - Crime; Immigration
Lab - 10% - Education

Author:  Kern [ Thu Feb 19, 2015 19:46 ]
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Mimi wrote:
Horn-ed viper.

Monday's are best days.


:this: Especially when my alma mater thrash the opposition on 'University Challenge', or if I get 3 points on 'Only Connect'.

Author:  Mr Dave [ Thu Feb 19, 2015 21:09 ]
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Amusingly I cam out as 40% UKIP*.

Yeah, don't think I'm going to be voting according to that.

* - They came out as my choice on the ones where I thought "I don't care and there's little to choose in any of them. Pick any one at random.

Author:  Grim... [ Thu Feb 19, 2015 23:23 ]
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Trooper wrote:
https://voteforpolicies.org.uk/

The new site is up, who do you most align to?

Fuck me, that got dull quickly.

Author:  Cras [ Fri Feb 20, 2015 0:17 ]
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The 'pre-answering' is a usability nightmare.

Author:  Curiosity [ Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:03 ]
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Grim... wrote:
Trooper wrote:
https://voteforpolicies.org.uk/

The new site is up, who do you most align to?

Fuck me, that got dull quickly.


Yup. Especially on the NHS. It's not like any of the parties are gonna say: "Yeah, we're gonna fuck this up so our mates can make a packet".

Author:  Kern [ Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:33 ]
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Curiosity wrote:
Grim... wrote:
Trooper wrote:
https://voteforpolicies.org.uk/

The new site is up, who do you most align to?

Fuck me, that got dull quickly.


Yup. Especially on the NHS. It's not like any of the parties are gonna say: "Yeah, we're gonna fuck this up so our mates can make a packet".


People didn't like it when Mr Farage did exactly that.

Author:  Kern [ Fri Feb 20, 2015 9:34 ]
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Cras wrote:
The 'pre-answering' is a usability nightmare.


It's also another website designed for people with tablets.

Some of us are retro!

Author:  Jem [ Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:12 ]
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Assumed that my result would be a mix of Lib Dem and Green, ended up with 75% Lib Dem and 25% Labour.

Author:  myp [ Fri Feb 20, 2015 10:17 ]
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Jem wrote:
Assumed that my result would be a mix of Lib Dem and Green, ended up with 75% Lib Dem and 25% Labour.

You right-wing bastard

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:51 ]
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Natalie Bennet gave a couple of car-crash interviews this morning. This one with Nick Ferrari on LBC is worth listening to: http://www.lbc.co.uk/incredibly-awkward ... LtMIy9D.97

Author:  myp [ Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:55 ]
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Yeah, excruciating.

Author:  Trousers [ Tue Feb 24, 2015 12:39 ]
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Doctor Glyndwr wrote:
Natalie Bennet gave a couple of car-crash interviews this morning. This one with Nick Ferrari on LBC is worth listening to: http://www.lbc.co.uk/incredibly-awkward ... LtMIy9D.97


Yeah I was listening to the Today programme interview this morning. I had to turn it off as it was just awful - reminded me of Nicola Murray.

Author:  MaliA [ Wed Feb 25, 2015 13:47 ]
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Bradford West Labour candidate has a change of heart

Author:  Satsuma [ Wed Feb 25, 2015 13:58 ]
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Good on her. Family first.

Author:  Bobbyaro [ Wed Feb 25, 2015 15:27 ]
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Labour
50%
Liberal Democrats
30%
Green Party
20%

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:38 ]
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Saturnalian wrote:
Good on her. Family first.
grauniad article here which I found quite scathing on the Bradford labour party. It calls into questions the local practice of block voting.

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Feb 26, 2015 23:33 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Saturnalian wrote:
Good on her. Family first.
grauniad article here which I found quite scathing on the Bradford labour party. It calls into questions the local practice of block voting.


http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015 ... line-smear

This is getting embarrassing

Author:  MaliA [ Mon Mar 02, 2015 20:47 ]
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MaliA wrote:
MaliA wrote:
Saturnalian wrote:
Good on her. Family first.
grauniad article here which I found quite scathing on the Bradford labour party. It calls into questions the local practice of block voting.


http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015 ... line-smear

This is getting embarrassing


And off we go again!

Author:  MaliA [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:45 ]
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MaliA wrote:
MaliA wrote:
MaliA wrote:
Saturnalian wrote:
Good on her. Family first.
grauniad article here which I found quite scathing on the Bradford labour party. It calls into questions the local practice of block voting.


http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015 ... line-smear

This is getting embarrassing


And off we go again!


Galloway threatens defamation claims against people on twitter

Author:  ApplePieOfDestiny [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 10:49 ]
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Candy Crush is a bitch for that.

Author:  Curiosity [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:08 ]
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The Tory party apparently offered Rifkind's safe parliamentary seat to Frank Lampard!

:D

Author:  DavPaz [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:27 ]
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Curiosity wrote:
The Tory party apparently offered Rifkind's safe parliamentary seat to Frank Lampard!

:D

But he said he could only commit to the second half of the administration having signed for another government

Author:  MaliA [ Tue Mar 03, 2015 11:29 ]
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DavPaz wrote:
Curiosity wrote:
The Tory party apparently offered Rifkind's safe parliamentary seat to Frank Lampard!

:D

But he said he could only commit to the second half of the administration having signed for another government


*nice*

Author:  Kern [ Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:49 ]
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Cleggy wants a Cornish Assembly. Hasn't made a cast-tin pledge though, which is possibly just as well.

Author:  myp [ Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:57 ]
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Kern wrote:
Cleggy wants a Cornish Assembly. Hasn't made a cast-tin pledge though, which is possibly just as well.

He's always been strongly in favour of devolving a lot of powers to local authorities, so this is no different to Manchester or Birmingham really. If it puffs up the Corns' chests and makes them feel important I'm all for it though.

Author:  Kern [ Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:06 ]
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Future Warrior wrote:
Kern wrote:
Cleggy wants a Cornish Assembly. Hasn't made a cast-tin pledge though, which is possibly just as well.

He's always been strongly in favour of devolving a lot of powers to local authorities, so this is no different to Manchester or Birmingham really. If it puffs up the Corns' chests and makes them feel important I'm all for it though.


Yes, I'm very interested to see how the Greater Manchester experiment pans out and if gets rolled out to other areas. Undecided on whether a mayorlty is the best structure, but some devolution is better than none.

Author:  Achilles [ Thu Mar 05, 2015 16:36 ]
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31745808

Who didn't see that coming? They should just "empty podium" him and do the election debates without him. If he doesnt show up for the first 3, then the 4th one with Ed vs Dave on 30th April they can cut to 15 minutes rather than the full 90. ;)


Rather a lot of comments on that page too.

Author:  Trooper [ Thu Mar 05, 2015 16:47 ]
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Cameron's position seems to be that the idea of a 7 sided debate is a farce, so let's just do it and get it over with, and move on.

That has some merit to it :D

Author:  Doctor Glyndwr [ Thu Mar 05, 2015 16:49 ]
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Cameron started that by insisting that the minority parties be represented, however.

Author:  myp [ Thu Mar 05, 2015 16:55 ]
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The more parties involved, the better it is for him. He is such a little toad.

Author:  Cras [ Thu Mar 05, 2015 17:01 ]
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Wasn't it more of an effort to 'de-emphasise' UKIP?

Author:  MaliA [ Thu Mar 05, 2015 17:09 ]
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R4 played a lovely clip of Cameron from 5 years back calling Brown scared of the debate and emphasising its importance.

Author:  myp [ Thu Mar 05, 2015 17:27 ]
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MaliA wrote:
R4 played a lovely clip of Cameron from 5 years back calling Brown scared of the debate and emphasising its importance.

Yes, it always puts the incumbent at a disadvantage, that's why he's trying to weasel out of them.

Author:  Achilles [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 17:39 ]
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31771198

Broadcasters have called PM's bluff.

Author:  MrChris [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 22:48 ]
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"Just who do the broadcasters think they are, that they can set down a diktat?" said the Northern Irish dick to Sky News.

Well, it's their fucking broadcast, so, yeah.

Author:  MaliA [ Fri Mar 06, 2015 22:53 ]
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Mr Kissyfur wrote:
"Just who do the broadcasters think they are, that they can set down a diktat?" said the Northern Irish dick to Sky News.

Well, it's their fucking broadcast, so, yeah.

I agree with Mr Chris."We are organising on these dates, come along" and he said no.

I think the debates were blown out of all proportion last time and detracted from the election. There is no point in having the two main brains and five losers. Just have Ed and Call Me Davebig we have to. We aren't America, we're more civilised than their system so why try and copy it?

Author:  Pod [ Sat Mar 07, 2015 13:03 ]
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MaliA wrote:
Mr Kissyfur wrote:
"Just who do the broadcasters think they are, that they can set down a diktat?" said the Northern Irish dick to Sky News.

Well, it's their fucking broadcast, so, yeah.

I agree with Mr Chris."We are organising on these dates, come along" and he said no.

I think the debates were blown out of all proportion last time and detracted from the election. There is no point in having the two main brains and five losers. Just have Ed and Call Me Davebig we have to. We aren't America, we're more civilised than their system so why try and copy it?


So we should try to not copy the American's system (which only have debates between the two main parties), and instead cut the debate down from seven parties to two?

I genuinely don't understand.

Author:  DavPaz [ Sat Mar 07, 2015 14:24 ]
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That's a great idea. Let's exclude Nigel Farage and give him fuel for his fire. Better to let the ones not ready for the limelight to show their true colours on a medium that many people will see.

Author:  BertyBasset [ Sat Mar 07, 2015 21:57 ]
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Some previous Cameron quotes about TV debates. Make of them (and his recent avoidance tactics) what you will...

“I absolutely believe in these debates and think they are great.” – David Cameron, Sky news, 14 April 2010

“I think it is great we are having these debates and I hope they go someway to restore some of the faith and some of the trust into our politics because we badly need that once again in this country.” – David Cameron, Leaders Debate, ITV, 15 April 2010

“Look, I’ve been calling for these debates for five years, I challenged Blair, I challenged Brown, I challenged when I was ahead in the polls, and when I was behind in the polls. I just think they are a good thing.” – David Cameron, Daily Telegraph, 17 April 2010

"I’ve always wanted these debates to happen. I mean they happen in every country. They even happen in Mongolia for heaven’s sake and it’s part of the modern age that we should be in.” – David Cameron, BBC3, 21 April 2010

“I think these debates are here to stay. They clearly engage people in politics which is what we need.” – David Cameron, News of the World, 2 May 2010

“If you want the TV debates to go ahead you have got to do it fairly between the main parties and look, having said I want them, having challenged people to have them and quite right, Sky saying let’s have them, it would have been feeble to find some excuse to back out so I thought we’ve got to stick at this, we’ve got to do it. It will be challenging, it was, but I think I came through them.” – David Cameron, Sky News, 3 May 2010

“On TV debates, I’m in favour of them, I think they’re good and we should go on having them and I will certainly play my part in trying to make that happen.” – David Cameron, Coalition mid term review, 7th Jan 2012

“I think TV debates are good. I enjoyed them last time – particularly the last one.” – David Cameron, Press Association, 10th December 2012

“You know we’ve been going on for years about let’s have these debates and I think it really vindicated having that. I think people will be asking themselves why on earth, what was all the fuss about? Why on earth didn’t we have these things before? We should have done and it’s great they’re underway now and I think we’ll have them in every election in the future and I think that’s a really good thing for our democracy.” – David Cameron, BBC Radio Manchester, 16 April 2014

“Blair pulled out against Major and Major pulled out against Kinnock, Thatcher pulled out against Callaghan. I’ve just always believed that these need to happen. It’s good for democracy. It’s good to see.” – David Cameron, BBC Radio Manchester, 16 April 2014

Author:  Dr Zoidberg [ Sat Mar 07, 2015 22:13 ]
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It seems like the SNP will probably have a significant number of MPs after the election. Other than the obvious independence thing, where do they sit on the political spectrum? I assume they are to the left, but we don't tend to hear many details South of the border.

Author:  MaliA [ Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:31 ]
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Pod wrote:
MaliA wrote:
Mr Kissyfur wrote:
"Just who do the broadcasters think they are, that they can set down a diktat?" said the Northern Irish dick to Sky News.

Well, it's their fucking broadcast, so, yeah.

I agree with Mr Chris."We are organising on these dates, come along" and he said no.

I think the debates were blown out of all proportion last time and detracted from the election. There is no point in having the two main brains and five losers. Just have Ed and Call Me Davebig we have to. We aren't America, we're more civilised than their system so why try and copy it?


So we should try to not copy the American's system (which only have debates between the two main parties), and instead cut the debate down from seven parties to two?

I genuinely don't understand.


I don't think a 7 party debate is a good use of anyone's time.

I don't think US style debates are much use to anyone, really.

But if we are going to have them, the only people it is worth inviting are Call Me Dave and Mr Ed.

Author:  Curiosity [ Sun Mar 08, 2015 11:57 ]
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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
It seems like the SNP will probably have a significant number of MPs after the election. Other than the obvious independence thing, where do they sit on the political spectrum? I assume they are to the left, but we don't tend to hear many details South of the border.


They exist more or less where Labour used to be before they lurched massively to the right.

Author:  Achilles [ Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:24 ]
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31828220

David Cameron phones the Conservative Peer Lord Grade to see if he can get debates shut down.




http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... te-cameron

'Online debate' team (Youtube / Telegraph / Guardian) agrees to D.C. demand to have it before 27th March.

Lets see what excuse he comes up with next to get out of it. "I wont do it because its only 5 parties and not 7" is my prediction. Lets see if I'm right. :roll:

Author:  Morte [ Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:32 ]
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Battle Royal...it's the only way to be fair.

Author:  Kern [ Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:39 ]
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I was going to suggest Twister, but your approach is more dignified.

Empty chairing him is a reasonable option, but would be good for the centre right to be represented in these things.

Author:  markg [ Wed Mar 11, 2015 12:46 ]
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What? I thought Miliband had agreed to it?

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